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Just For Debate

Mission: Impossible 3, Day 4
M:I3’s Monday Continues To Match The Opening Weekend’s Relative Pace Vs Previous Summer Openers With A $3.5m Monday… Same Day For Kingdom Of Heaven ($1.7m), Van Helsing ($4m), X2 ($6.5m), & Spider-Man ($11m)

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17 Responses to “Just For Debate”

  1. waterbucket says:

    Veronica Mars season finale is tonight! Woohoo.
    I don’t know what the big deal about MI 3 box office is. Should we care that much whether Tom Cruise will earn $100 million or will have to settle for $75 million from the movie’s profit?

  2. Telemachos says:

    No question, that $3.5 million figure is harsh. Looks like a HULK-y final domestic total, probably.
    Thankfully JJ Abrams will survive the “debacle”.

  3. jeffmcm says:

    We could try talking about a different movie for a change…I saw The Proposition over the weekend. I don’t think I liked it as much as DP, but I did like it quite a bit, especially the work from Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, and Danny Huston.

  4. Eddie says:

    I loved, loved, loved The Proposition. I’ve been a Nick Cave fan since I was 16 though, not to mention a movie violence lover since about 12, so I guess I was a prime candidate for this one.

  5. montrealkid says:

    If MI:III continues to roll this well, and get good word of mouth (which it seems its getting) this could spell trouble for Poseidon next weekend.

  6. Telemachos says:

    The Proposition sounds interesting — I’ll have to find time to see it.

    “If MI:III continues to roll this well”…
    $3.5 million in 4000 theatres on your first Monday isn’t “rolling well” at all. WOM does appear to be good, although it’s also a “hey! I thought it would be crap, and it’s better than I expected” vibe.

  7. Martin says:

    3.5 mill might be “on the same pace”, but it seems like a real crappy number to me. We may well be looking at Hulk numbers. $140 domestic seems about right. I think Terminator 3 opened bigger, and actually was seen to have decent legs as it went to $150 mill. Mission Impossible 3 might be $150 mill. domestic.

  8. oldman says:

    Here in the Cultural Capital of the Universe ( aka Las Vegas) I noticed a sign advertising 2 for 1 tickets for MI3; plus free small popcorn thru sun 5/14. Perhaps a new marketing plan? Has anyone else seen such a promotion?

  9. palmtree says:

    Doing worse than Van Helsing has to hurt.

  10. Joe Straat says:

    I saw M:I III tonight. It’s a big, tall glass of “So what?” and so is its gross, it seems.

  11. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

    Martin – That’s exactly the point Dave was trying to make.
    Montrealkid – Positive WOM won’t be that high. If people wanted to see MI3 at all they would have last weekend and it appears they did not. And as somebody else said, $3.5mil on Monday is NOT “rolling well”. I’m seeing $26mil next weekend. Which is sort of funny.
    Waterbucket – er, considering all the talk of deminishing box office I think the fact that MI3 has stiffing is very important.
    Jeff – it’s been out for a few days it’s not like we’ve been talking about it for weeks
    Telemachos – “Thankfully JJ Abrams will survive the “debacle”.” pfft. He can sink with the ship. Let’s wait to see how much longer all you Lost fans can last before you give up on it. We all know “Felicity” and “Alias” went to the crapper by seasons 2 or 3. And let’s not forget that JJ Abrams wrote “ARMAGEDDON”
    I fell odd publicly pissing on an Australian film, but The Proposition just wasn’t that good. Maybe if David did a proper write-up on it I would understand where he’s coming from (or has he done so already and I missed it?)

  12. RDP says:

    But he also wrote “Taking Care of Business” which is the best film in the Jim Belushi oeuvre.

  13. Melquiades says:

    Abrams hasn’t had much to do with Lost this season. Damon Lindelof is the man, now, on that show. In the case of Alias, Abrams handed the reins over to less qualified people and the show suffered (starting in season 3, not 2).
    Lost is doing just fine.
    And M:I 3 was very enjoyable.

  14. Spacesheik says:

    STAR TREK is looking more like a reality for JJ Abrams after MI3 stiffed. He won’t deny reports he is directing anymore…

  15. jeffmcm says:

    Come on now, it’s silly for Abrams to suffer from any ‘disappointment’ for MI3 because it seems to be getting generally positive word of mouth and the disappointment is purely based on opening weekend numbers, which as DP always says is a reflection of the marketing, not of the movie. The final gross, and the multiplier from the opening weekend, will be much more revealing as to how well-received THE MOVIE ITSELF and Abrams’ work are.

  16. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

    Thanks for the link Dave.
    I don’t care if Abrams himself wasn’t responsible for his program’s demises but if he really cared about his product he would actually stick with something for longer than 1 season. And as I said, Lost hasn’t even finished it’s second season. We’ll see how it goes.

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