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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
A large donation to the AFL might be in order for Mr. Gibson, both for PR’s sake and to show repentance for his truly despicable (as he admitted) comments.
That considered, I’m sickened by the response more than I am the incident itself. First of all, the biggest sin he committed was not his drunken rantings, but the fact that he drove drunk. Since when do we punish people for their words more than their actions?
And as for all this ‘in vino, veritas’ crap, well it may very well reveal what’s at the core of our hearts. But anybody who thinks that they’re so devoid of malice or prejudice at their core is a hypocrite. And we’d all better be thankful that either a) we’re not famous enough for anyone to care about the worst things we’ve said, or, b) should we be famous, our comments haven’t been reported, leaked, and editorialized. If we’re holding people responsible for the things they say when they’re drunk (and printing them in the paper), we might want to think about reinstating prohibition.
A celebrity with a drinking problem drove drunk. That’s the only news here.
The hypocrisy of Hollywood is astounding.
What Gibson said was horrible, but as one person said on another blog, this is a town that worshipped Don Simpson and created a hero of Roman Polanski.
Marlon Brando in 1979 in Playboy said:
“You’ve seen every single race besmirched, but you never saw an unfavorable image of the Kike because the Jews were ever so watchful for that. They never allowed it to be shown on screen.”
On Larry King in 1996 Marlon Brando said:
“Hollywood is run by Jews; it is owned by Jews, and they should have a greater sensitivity about the issue of — of people who are suffering. Because they’ve exploited
No, I have never uttered racist or such hateful comments while under the influence of alcohol. I ‘ve said stupid things but not the type of things Gibson said, not even close. Stop making excuses for Gibson for his deplorable acts. He’s sorry he got caught and that now everyone knows his true feelings and thoughts. I wonder what these same people excusing Gibson and saying people are making amountain out of a molehill would be saying if say it was Tom Cruise who said these things.
“Context is everything.”
Indeed. I think what makes Mel’s words more shocking then they would otherwise be is that two years ago he made the case to everyone that there was not a single anti-semitic bone in his conservative Christian body. Now, all those promises seem to be broken within that context. It would be different if he didn’t deny those sentiments to begin with.
You have some reasonable points, Nicol… then you go over the edge of the cliff.
Do you really think that they have to cheat a reaction to get people to laugh at or show anger towards Mr. Gibson?
And in the decade before his death, Brando only made 3 movies. He hardly had a thriving career. Besides which, he had a point in those interviews. He offered a one-sided view, as The Hollywood of the Jews didn’t make movies about nice jews either. But yes, Hollywood slurred a lot. And Walt Disney slurred everyone, including the jews, endlessly.
But you, Nicol, need to get some perspective on who Mel Gibson is. A major movie star. A major director in the early part of his directing career, perhaps. A renegade. Very wealthy. And he lives in Hollywood… a Hollywood in which neither jews nor homosexuals nor sugar-titted women are in small numbers or shy about asserting themselves.
I don’t feel that boycotts against The Passion were appropriate… nor against The Last Temptation of Christ. But if you have a choice of working with someone you know hates you or not, what choice would you make? The movie business is no one
Nicol, for somebody who professes to be appalled by hypocrisy, you are certainly working overtime to defend an anti-semite who disingenuously denied his own obvious prejudices on the way to $350 million at the box office.
Am I the only one who would really like to see Mel use this rage in another Mad Max movie?
Nicol you do NOT speak for Hollywood, so knock it off. Most people know what Polanski did was wrong, period.
I think Mayans are a compelling enough subject that I would want to the see the movie, but Mel would directly profit if I paid because of how the movie is financed etc. so I can’t pay to see it.
Mel can have whatever beliefs he wishes, but he seems to have alot of influence to encourage people to hate and malign–Proof of that to me were the incredible comments I heard coming out of a midnight free screening of POTChrist, which I won’t repeat here. I am not a practicing catholic and part Jewish too, but a friend took me on her parish’s trek. (heck it was free). The remarks made after the movie were not about any aspect of the production except “the Jews”, and were hurtful crazy things. Mel induced hate from his movie as far as I saw (saw it twice free) and this current situation now is further turn-off–I don;t want to donate to his “causes” which is what you do if he receives profits.
If what TMZ has are legit transcriptions…makes me glad Baba said what she did.
If you have hundred of millions of dollars to spend you are a very influential person, that IS the sad material issue really, he’s not just another bigot who can’t shut his trap. He’s a 50 yr old demagogue who has influenced many people with his inventions on history.
Like they were saying in England when Mel was insisting with his crocodile tears that he wasn’t anti-Semetic “Jesus…get off the cross–Mel needs the wood”.
By the way, Campbell–yeah drunk driving is the issue, especially since he may have been “let loose” in the past. I don;t think nayone is denying that.
The biggest issue of concern is how the Police departments in the TMZone are treating well-to-do/celebrity patrons, and Why is there this inconsistency–and an “edited” police report if that is true, will not bolster anyone’s faith in police to keep the community safe.
Mel can say what he likes but I don;t have to help his profits.
Let’s not forget that someone at the police department linked official documents to a gossip website. Happy we know… but would you like to have that done to you if you were in trouble with the police?
“Michael Moore said Israel was one of the true axis of evil…but he gets a free pass from Hollywood.”
I just thought I’d point that out: criticizing Israel isn’t any more anti-semitic than criticizing Georges W. is anti-american. Israel represents Israel, not all the Jewish community.
What Holllywood celebrity is Nicol accusing of ‘raping young women with coat hangers’? Fatty Arbuckle? And is he actually referring to rape or to another controversial activity?
Well I don;t know Dave. To be honest if I needed help and wasn;t getting it (rehab) I think a leak would be the best thing for me in I were in Mel’s boots. Maybe he will dry out and get therapy in remorse. If he were dinged for a DUI without the media circus would he get as much help and be as contrite as he claims to be now? Dunno bout that. Acoholism requires rock bottom embarassment before recovery usually and it is pretty hard for someone so wealthy to hit rock bottom. This has to be rock bottom for MG.
Secondly there is a reported possibility of cover up, alteration or concealment of facts–so yes, a leak is necessary or we get no progress in Law Enforcement.
Mel didn;t commit murder. BUT he could have with his car if he has been allowed to drive recklessly or drunk in the past–that’s disturbing.
I suspect whoever the leaker was may have been seriously bent out of shape by possibly being asked bend rules for MG and maybe that person has been asked to do this too many times for Celebs and was fed up, rather than wanting to embarass MG specifically.
“Leaks” are good when they draw attention to deficiencies in public safety and how the Law is enforced or Not enforced by John/Jane Law.
“Leaks” are bad when it is assholes trying to get photos of Suri Cruise–that’s a heinous invasion of privacy matter.
“A large donation to the AFL might be in order for Mr. Gibson, both for PR’s sake and to show repentance for his truly despicable (as he admitted) comments.”
That’s not at all out of the question. Didn’t Mel make a big show out of meeting with GLAAD representatives a few years back, enraged by Braveheart’s nelly prince getting turfed out the window, and by the homophobe jokes in the Lethal Weapon sequels? He has at least shown himself to be publicly penitent in the past is all.
“I just thought I’d point that out: criticizing Israel isn’t any more anti-semitic than criticizing Georges W. is anti-american. Israel represents Israel, not all the Jewish community.”
Indeed. I would even contend that claiming Israel’s murderous policies are instrinsically Jewish — whatever THAT means — is grossly anti-Semitic. Not all Jews support that regime, its violations of international law etc. /politics
A couple people mention Tom Cruise, who has been getting shit on for the last two years because he — OH MY GOD — jumped on Oprah’s couch. He has nutty views about drugs, but people seem to forget that his “attack” (criticism) of Brook Shields was not initiated out of the blue (like Gibson’s anti-Semitic remarks). Shields had written a book discussing her travails.
These incidents are usually used as a pretext to justify a pre-existing hatred for X celebrity. However, in Gibson’s case there was always a cloud of suspicion that has now been confirmed.
Yes, the media has blown it out of proportion. I can’t say I give a shit. But the media ALWAYS blows this stuff out of proportion. If Michael Moore had made these gross comments you can expect the right-wing blogosphere, talk radio, and the conservative press would be all over him. That’s not the case here. Instead right-wing apologists are resigned to relative silence, or observing the disproportionate coverage.
“Even better, they are in a relatively loose forum, so they expose themselves in a different way than, say, network morning news show hosts, normally do.”
I’m surprised nobody picked up on that!
I still don’t think this is gonna be that much of a story after a few months or so. And if Apocalypto makes money then all the headlines will read “Have We Forgiven Mel?” or whatever.