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Ink Stained Wretch Fight Tonight!!!

An interesting kind of double team from Traditional Media, fighting for the value of the internet.
First, there is Cathy Seipp in the L.A. Times, writing in an Op-Ed piece titled,

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6 Responses to “Ink Stained Wretch Fight Tonight!!!”

  1. Eric says:

    Traditional Media must never disappear. New Media would be forced to find something else to talk about.

  2. jeffmcm says:

    We can do this all over again in a hundred years when Digital Media is complaining about telepathy chips inserted into peoples’ heads and how it’s just going to lead to chaos.

  3. palmtree says:

    Schickel is dead wrong. The internet has been a great force for the resurrection of history and context in public discourse. Everything can be googled and everything can be hyperlinked. Blogs face almost constant critique from their commentaries which are then given unlimited space like this on the same blog! If there’s any medium that strives to take away history and context, it’s TV…screaming talking heads who spout rhetoric without much recourse…except the Daily Show.

  4. grandcosmo says:

    Regardless of his swipe at bloggers, Schickel’s review of the Giddins book really makes me look forward to reading it. I have really tried to follow Giddins’ work since I read the first installment of his two-part biography of Bing Crosby but didn’t know that this book was being published.

  5. montrealkid says:

    What Schickel seems to forget is that the majority of moviegoers are “history-free and sensibility-deprived”. To see the disconnect between movie critics and movie audiences, one has to look no further than the record smashing Dead Man’s Chest and realize that it has a Metacritic rating of 53.
    While there is a place for cinephiles and reviews and essays addressing those who have the “history and sensibility”, it’s not in the mainstream media, either print or electronic. Roger Ebert perfected the formula of hitting both audiences – without talking down to either of them – a long time ago, but no one since has come close.

  6. Eric says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that when Roger Ebert “perfected” the ability to publicly engage with film in an accessible manner that didn’t negate his intellectual discipline, nobody had the option of googling around to find out if a movie was any good. Online junket-hoppers now have the opportunity to use a major public venue that is shared by more qualified film journalists, even those who only write in print (since most of their stuff goes online now anyway). So doesn’t this make the people who want to go beyond the crass notion of being a publicist’s lackey just work a lot harder to prove their worth? Isn’t that a good thing? And won’t all the cranky old timers either get over it or just adapt to the process of natural selection? Army Archerd sorta has a blog, you know. At the very least, it’s a more valiant effort than Schickel has made.

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