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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
… Or at least Rose McGowan trying her best to look like Jessica Alba in Sin City.
The aged look is a nice effect. So will we be seeing commercials for only one of the movies at a time, or will they promote them as the double-feature that they are? The running time between the two is well over 3 and 1/2 hours…
I like the Marley Shelton one…
Two movies?
From wiki:
Grind House is a 2007 film that consists of two segments, of which both are feature-length attractions. One segment, Planet Terror, will be a zombie film written and directed by Robert Rodr
It seems like the Weinsteins would just release them as two separate movies and get more screenings of each per day, the same way they did with the two separate Kill Bills. I’m surprised they’re sticking with the epic running time. In fact, will Tarantino be able to keep his film under two 1/2 hours?
I doubt the films are going to be longer than 90 minutes, if that much. they have to realize that the majority of the demographic they want to reach isn’t going to sit through 3+ hours of this stuff.
that being said, I’m there regardless. I love the marketing on this thing. And I’m surprised DP didn’t show the poster for Tarantino’s part, which I believe was also displayed at Comic-Con last weekend.
I seem to remember reading that at Comic Con Tarantino said his script was 200 pages. I can’t believe that’ll be a 90 minute movie.
Knowing his history with Kill Bill, I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns into a two film project, which Weinstein will try to sell to exhibitors as a double feature but, assuming they can’t, will just book as regular separate films.
200 pages is the equivalent of 200 minutes… I thought he was doing an hour long segment of the movie.
No, the movies are going to be “full length,” not just an hour.
Altogether we’re looking at 3-4 hours of film.
What? I thought the whole idea was two one-hour movies… so does this mean that Grind House is going to be a series of movies by different directors with Planet Terror being the first of them?
Sorry, I wasn’t clear. It’s going to be two movies. Both movies will be “full-length.” There will be trailers and ads built-in surrounding the two films.
But the two movies won’t just be an hour each. As I said before, Tarantino said at Comicon that his script alone was 200 pages (or so I read). Assuming he cuts that down and can get his movie to 90 minutes, and assuming Rodriguez’s is 90 minutes as well, you’re talking about three hours of feature film plus all the additional phony trailers and ads. So it’ll be between 3-4 hours.
Correction: Tarantino’s script is 130 pages, not 200 pages (I guess I was thinking about Kill Bill). Nevertheless, that’s still over an hour and a half.
I hope it’s better than “Four Rooms.” Of course, it couldn’t really be worse.
The Rodriguez and Tarantino sequences in Four Rooms were the best of the four, so there is hope.
Planet Terror’s script is 110 pages. Death Proof’s script is 130 pages. Together that makes a 4 hour movie. I have a feeling the movie will be shorter. Considering how much detail are in thoses scripts (especially QT’s), I think the movie will clock in between 3 to 3 1/2 hours. I see the movie getting three showings a day. They’ll probably have midnight showings on the weekend in certain markets. Both filmmakers know that the key to exploitation movies is keeping the action fast and short. Exploitation movies rarely went over 100 minutes. Remember, they want to re-create a type of moviegoing experience that doesn’t exist anymore. If the movies are good then the running time won’t matter.
Who wants to bet that the Grindhouse trailer will appear on Hostel 2? That’s what I would do.
The poster for Tarantino’s part is available all over the place btw.
The thing with Tarantino’s half is, I’m sure he’ll keep it to a good length but it’s that he hasn’t even started filming yet! He has until March at the very latest to film an entire movie! Is that possible!
I am definitely anticipating this movie. Kurt Russell as a serial killer! Rose McGowen with a machine gun for a leg! It’s gonna be great. The thing is, the fake trailers inbetween them are gonna be as entertaining as the movie (I assume) and so they can’t really act as an intermission, and for a night on four hour movie that could be hard to get through.
I would rather see two good hour-long movies from these guys than a bloated 4-hour monster that I would have a hard time scheduling to see on my 10-8 weekday work schedule.
Kurt Russell as a demented serial killer?!
Warped but interesting casting, sign me up then.
Jeff-
See the movie on the weekend. A double feature is a good way to spend a Saturday night.
But then when do I go to the strip club?
“Both filmmakers know that the key to exploitation movies is keeping the action fast and short.”
You mean how Tarantino bloated KILL BILL so much it ended up as 2 movies?
I liked Rodriguez’s segment of Four Rooms (it was what ultimately gave him the idea for Spy Kids) but I really hated Tarantino’s, mainly since he played the main role. That guy is an even more annoying person in his own films than M. Night.
“You mean how Tarantino bloated KILL BILL so much it ended up as 2 movies?”
Kill Bill would have been a *great* two hour movie… instead it’s just two slightly better than mediocre movies. (I liked VOl. 2 much better than Vol. 1, and I think I’m in the minority there)
Vol 1 is a masterpiece in my eyes, Vol 2 is really great. I can’t imagine what they will be like together because that’s a completely different beast.
But, considering that the film it was modeled after, Lady Snowblood, was 2 volumes, it makes sense.
I want the Marley Shelton poster…
Planet Terror is clocking in at 107 minutes, and Death Proof is currently at 110 minutes long as of ComicCon. The first bit of news last year was about the trailers, so expect to have a good five to ten minutes of those as well.
“The thing with Tarantino’s half is, I’m sure he’ll keep it to a good length but it’s that he hasn’t even started filming yet! He has until March at the very latest to film an entire movie! Is that possible!”
Certainly. Eastwood began shooting MILLION DOLLAR BABY in August and it was released four months later. Whether it’s possible for Tarantino is another question altogether.