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April 25, 2024
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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
what is the point of this thread? So privileged people who have been to advanced screenings can talk about the film in private? the damned thing doesn’t open for over 2 weeks.
Considering DP’s only posted a brief write up with more-to-come later (“I’m not going to say much about this right now”), doesn’t this seem a bit disingenuous?
If you choose not to participate, Laz, then don’t. Why shouldn’t people who had spoiler questions in the last thread have a place to discuss specifics? I don’t get where there is a downside for anyone here.
It’ll be a while before a lot of people can talk in this thread obviously, but hey, ;et’s do it.
Capping Leo at the end – fucking beautiful. No prisoners, Jack goes out in the nastiest fashion with no big hoorah, whaich I also loved. It;s like this movie lives by the Jack line “we all are (on our way out)…act accordingly.” No one makes it out unscathed, and halfway through the film I thought “Is this going to be THAT kind of experience? The kind that seemingly would be unsatisfying because the film screws everyone out of a happy ending. EVERYBODY.” But when it came to pass, I thought, fuck it, no better way to let this one unravel.
It seriously is one of the two or three best films of the year. I stand by what I told you immediately afterward: “Un-fucking-believeable.”
For those who haven’t seen the movie (or those prone to seeing it three times like David)… there’s a scene where Mr. French sets the curtains in a room on fire to burn the place down… watch closely because in the next shot, the floor is aflame in a ball of fire and the curtains are completely intact, not even singed…and then in the next shot they’re on fire again.
Departed isn’t even in my Top 10 so far this year, but I must see more movies than David and Kris.
Leonardo DiCaprio as a tough cop??? Hahaha.
His voice is so soft and he’s so pretty. I still love him though.
Don’t think so, ED… unless you are counting the multiple trips to The Benchwarmers…
ED: Catch the cigarette bouncing in Jack’s mouth one shot, then disappearing the reverse? It’s right before the “what’s the difference” line.
Like Kubrick, Scorsese has never been a stickler for continuity. Performance and momentum should always come before continuity. Actually, Scorsese has gotten better over the years. Anyone remember the big continuity error in the first big scene between DeNiro and Lewis in the limo in The King of Comedy? It’s a good thing there weren’t blogs back in 1983. You guys would’ve been pissing and moaning about DeNiro’s hand and forget to talk about what an amazing movie KoC was.
“Don’t think so, ED… unless you are counting the multiple trips to The Benchwarmers…”
Nope, didn’t see that one, but I’m up to 230 movies this year with three and a half months to go.
People who obsess on continuity tend to be absolute bores. I noticed the drapes, but pyrotechnics are a bitch. I don’t know what didn’t go right there, but, like Jimmy, I can overlook inconsistencies when the movie’s involving.
I rarely notice continuity gaffs but that one was so noticeable that I’m amazed it got through to the cut I saw.
Maybe one of you wants to take a stab at spoiling the sex scene, and make it as hot as possible, but keep it real.
EDouglas, continuity is the first thing you sacrifice in the editing room for the good of a scene, if it’s there, it had to be.
So what is the deal with the sex scene, is it back in? I saw a screening about a month or so back and it was gone, but Nicholson still flashes the strap on in the theatre to Damon, which I just assumed was from the talked about sex scene from an earlier screening. As for the ending, brutal as hell, but the continuos head shots did have some chuckling. As for the ending, some screenings had a rat start to munch on Damon’s groceries, my screening had it cut before the rat came out, which version made it?
My post didnt go through the first time so forgive me if this is repeated. I was wondering if a few scenes were reinserted into the movie after i saw a screening a few months back, maily the sex scene, which was excised when i saw it but the scene with the strap on was still there when he scares Damon with it. Also, after Damon is killed, in an earlier screening a rat comes out and starts to munch on his discarded groceries, this was cut from my screening, is it still in? I did love the ending but the continuous head shots did make some giggle.
I can’t wait for Happy Feet.
That is all.
harosa… there is a sex scene with Jack but it doesn’t really show anything…just him carousing with his girl and another woman and throwing coke everywhere. The rat didn’t come out and eat the groceries…it appeared outside his window. I thought it was kind of dumb.
The rat lives!!!!
EDouglas, shots 1 and 2 are in the trailer. At those durations, it doesn’t look that bad: Mr. French sets the curtains on fire… in the next shot, the floor is aflame and the curtains are completely intact… and then in the next shot they’re on fire again. Are you “amazed it got through”, because you think they had better stuff and held back? He he.
Kristopher, man alive, it must be old age, because with his depth of experience, Nicholson should have been able to control his prop better. With everyone gathered around the monitor now, the script super doesn’t have the director’s ear anymore. “Catch the cigarette bouncing in Jack’s mouth one shot, then disappearing….”
so how graphic is the violence?
and how do all the main characters die?