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By Ray Pride Pride@moviecitynews.com

S07: Transcribing Hartley, Araki, Jenkins, Green

Hal Hartley, Gregg Araki, Tamara Jenkins and David Gordon Green comprised a sturdy Sundance roundtable; At GreenCine, Craig Philips transcribes more than 5,500 words. Hartley: “I don’t think I’ve ever been in a development situation. It’s always: Write the script and then come to the table with the script. These are my friends and we want to make this film. I guess I mean I’ve never been 4677.jpgpaid to develop a script. That sounds like such a civilized thing.” Green: “I guess development to me is like flirting with a girl; you have to give yourself a lot of opportunities to turn around and go the other way, or you can hook up. You get in a room with producers, financiers, actors, you kind of all look at each other, assess each other, size each other up, see if it works. If it does, take the next step. Some of them, I’ll write, get producers attached, and then I’ll get to the casting and all of a sudden the studio or whoever I’m working with will say, “Eh, we see a different cast.” I’ll say, I don’t like that idea, then go away and close up that project, open up another one. So I’ve got a number of experiences in… not going all the way.” Are they “in it for the money”?Hartley: Well, to be perfectly honest, I am in it for the money. I mean, I consider myself an artist, too, and try to be true to that, but I do have a family to take care of. Why should I do this for nothing? I’ve learned a lot about doing business; I just do it in a particular way. I’m much more interested in talking to business people than I am talking to philanthropists. I don’t want to be a charity case. It’s important because, in the early days of your career, you get a lot of people talking about support. “We supported you.” Right, you didn’t program the film on television and make money – you were supporting me, that wasn’t business. Right. So, you have to be careful about that. But, yeah, I’m a professional filmmaker; that means I get paid for what I do. No reason to be ashamed of admitting that.” Green: “I think everything is fun. I even like going to the corporate meetings and pitching it. Getting everybody excited, that’s kind of fun. The only thing I don’t like is when you have to make the credits for your movie and everybody starts crying because they wanted their name in a specific place. I actually had to appeal to my union so that the title of my movie could come after my name. There’s so many weird politics about it; everybody gets really possessive about credits. I don’t think we should even have credits – the title sequence should just be cool parts of the movie, and they should take out the titles.” [Much, much more at the link.]

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon