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News Or Norm?

Someone I assume is a stringer/freelancer/pitcher to the New York Magazine Intellegencer column caught M. Night Shyamalan on a red carpet in New York and got him to defend Lady In The Water in a way I don’t consider remotely unusual. If he didn’t like what he made, he wouldn’t have made it. They then spun on his clearly casual throwaway, “I’ve got shit to say!”
To be fair, Intellegencer is admittedly a gossipy column. But they sent it out to media outlets as “news” or at least something worth linking to.
It seems to me like this is right at the line. Night humiliated himself with that book and then he compounded it with the relative failure of his film. But does this make his off-season and general defense of his movie into something worth discussing?
Discuss…

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11 Responses to “News Or Norm?”

  1. PetalumaFilms says:

    “Lady in the Water,” I feel, is a victim of the whole internet new medias ability to judge and destroy a film before it even hits theaters. People hate Night and maybe for good reason. But people also perpetuate this hatred of him and wear it like a badge of cool. I liked “Lady in the Water” alot and think there’s some great allegory and insight into the creative process.

  2. jeffmcm says:

    The movie and M. Night are worth discussing, this little gossip thing not so much.
    But Lady in the Water was a victim of M. Night’s own pretentiousness and self-absorption. If ‘new media’ aided its downfall, that’s a good thing.

  3. Goulet says:

    Lady in the Water IS beautiful. Cynics.

  4. jeffmcm says:

    Yes, I’m a cynic, but garbage is garbage.
    Incidentally, has anyone besides me ever seen M. Night’s first movie, Wide Awake? It makes LITW look like Cocteau in comparison.

  5. prideray says:

    Mr. Shyamalan’s first feature was 1992’s “Praying with Anger,” starring Shyamalan as “Dev Raman,” a privileged, American-raised teenager who returns to India to make a journey to discover his true heritage, as they say in the logline biz.

  6. jeffmcm says:

    That is correct, never seen that one and don’t think I need to.

  7. prideray says:

    Its greatest virtue is that it does not co-star Rosie O’Donnell, unlike WIDE AWAKE.

  8. Goulet says:

    Wide Awake is flawed, but I’m afraid that’s the Weinstein’s doing. Take away the crappy voice-over, music and choppy editing, and there migtht be a pretty good movie in there. Not as good as Night’s later five flicks but, you know.

  9. I didn’t like Lady in the Water that much but definitely didn’t think it was the abonination many were making it out to be. Yes, it’s a disaster in terms of storytelling and general filmmaking, but it’s utterly fascinating to watch and wonder the what is happening and why. Plus, you can’t ignore that Shyamalan can direct individual scenes like not many others, but the way he puts them together and how they relate in the grand scheme of things is what’s the issue.
    Although, even I have no defence for that ridiculous Bob Balaban character nor why Shyamalan decided to cast himself as the world’s saviour-cum-guru or whatever he was supposed to be. That was just strange.

  10. jeffmcm says:

    No no no, Goulet, I could agree that some of Wide Awake’s flaws are the result of the Weinsteins’ meddling, but that’s a movie that is rotten to the core in its very conception.

  11. Spacesheik says:

    LADY IN THE WATER was not a perfect film, but I loved it: a lyrical, dramatic fairy tale with an amazing performance by Paul Giamatti.
    And the icing on the cake was the beautiful score by James Newton Howard.

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