MCN Blogs
David Poland

By David Poland poland@moviecitynews.com

Sunday Estimates by Klady – Sept 16

sunday0917.jpg

Be Sociable, Share!

28 Responses to “Sunday Estimates by Klady – Sept 16”

  1. IOIOIOI says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Welcome to the September of our box office discontent. Maybe some Milla against some zombies will get 20 million in a weekend. If not, well, October is right around the corner. Time for another SAW movie to make a ridiculous amount of money.

  2. seanwithaw says:

    i hope that 3:10 to Yuma makes it money back.
    I’ve seen it twice already. 🙂
    I love it.
    David, what’s your opinion of this film?

  3. Chicago48 says:

    This isn’t David, but I liked it. It kept me engaged and that’s what I want a movie to do.

  4. Chicago48 says:

    Comment about Jodie and women actors: I haven’t seen the Brave one, but I’m not a big Jodie Foster supporter. I find her acting very “cold” on the same level as Nicole Kidman. Neither of them exude much warmth and sexuality something you want women actors to do. AJolie comes closest to that description.
    What has happened to women actors? Or is it the roles that are written? There’s not one woman I would follow into the movies – actually not a whole lot of men either but a handful of men like Denzel Washington, Terrence Howard, Vito, Al Pacino, et al.
    But the female actors just seem not to connect. So it must be the writing. Nobody’s writing for them. Or they’re not developing enough of their own movies.
    The best female actors seem to be on TV as stated in several columns, which is too bad. We need a Marilyn Monroe, Jane Russell, Rosalind Russell, younger Faye Dunnaway, Barbara Stanwyck. I can watch their movies over and over.

  5. anghus says:

    i think the brave one underperformed because audiences like their female heroines to be imperiled, finding the strength to overcome insurmountable odds. i don’t think they like them as gun toting, revenge seeking characters.
    Double Jepoardy is the only movie that comes immediately to mind that has a female character on a revenge streak that performed well at the box office.
    I think people like to see Foster in thrillers, but in a less agressive role. From the marketing, it felt like I was watching a movie that i’d see someone like Jennifer Lopez cast in. I don’t care how much i like Foster, i have little interest in a film with a plot like The Brave One.
    Did Dragon War’s take surprise anyone. Much higher than i would have thought.

  6. ployp says:

    “I find her acting very “cold” on the same level as Nicole Kidman. Neither of them exude much warmth and sexuality something you want women actors to do”
    That’s a generalization about actresses. As a woman myself, I don’t agree that warmth and sexuality MUST be part of an actress’ quality. So stereotypical…

  7. Crow T Robot says:

    I also think predictability plays a part in it. Audiences see the trailer and assume that in the end Foster will have a gun pointed at the killer kneeling on the floor while the good cop (his gun pointed at her of course) pleads that once she kills him, she BECOMES him. She starts crying, puts the gun down and walks away to John Mayer music over end credits… that she is after all still a fragile woman who just needs to learn her lesson.
    Yes sir, that’s what audiences ASSUME will happen.

  8. White Label says:

    Well, I saw The Brave One opening day, glad to see my $8 in there. Shame it’s so low.
    3:10 to Yuma – just got out of that screening. 7pm show on a sunday night – 15 people (and about 10 of them went to use the bathroom at some point during it? Not sure what was up with that).
    David, you asked earlier who knew that Dragon Wars (D-War) was being released. At least I’ve seen 2 ads for that one (during Dr. Who last week). The mystery release for me was “Silk” I hadn’t heard a single thing about it or seen a single ad for it.
    It’d be interesting to see what The Kingdom sneak did. Any word on getting, that David?

  9. bipedalist says:

    God I loved 3:10 to Yuma. I LOVED it. I will see it again and again in my lifetime. Glad it came in second, yay.

  10. Noah says:

    I thought 3:10 to Yuma was a typical James Mangold film, which is to say that it was good but could have been great. Besides the fact that there was nothing but close-ups, it just didn’t go far enough. Christian Bale’s character wasn’t enough of a loser or a coward to make his actions really poetic at the end of the film. Russell Crowe wasn’t enough of a villain and it seemed like he was sleepwalking through the picture. I don’t know, it seemed to me that Mangold just said “go” and let two great actors do their thing. I think in the hands of a better filmmaker, it could’ve been a classic, but as is it’s merely just good.

  11. 3:10 TO YUMA was entertaining, but, like TRANSFORMERS, if you try to get beyond the popcorn aspect, it’ll fluster you. I mean…who in the hell throws dynamite and shoots it? Exploding horses? Heavy handed undercurrents much, Mangold?
    The flick is a pastiche of every good western thrown together with a crappy ending.

  12. jeffmcm says:

    Exploding horses? Is this movie still playing in my area tonight?

  13. Telemachos says:

    DRAGON WARS is hilariously stupid. Awesome, if you’re in the mood for an MST3K-level movie.
    They do a fun and nice job destroying downtown LA though.

  14. bipedalist says:

    “The flick is a pastiche of every good western thrown together with a crappy ending.” Sayeth the Lord.
    The flick is a brilliantly acted, well written, well directed, ENTERTAINING western, the best of Mangold’s career.

  15. Keep trying for that trailer quote, biped. You must not like westerns if you like 3:10 to Yuma.
    The acting was awesome, but Mangold has NO clue what his ideology or message is in this film. It was also entertaining but I would expect nothing less from a popcorn flick.

  16. EthanG says:

    “Evan Almighty will not make it to $100 million.”
    Nice fearless prediction David, but you underestimated the studio’s need for a milestone on this film. They’ve made a strong push into second run theatres, and should reach the $100 million mark next friday…the 21st film of the year to do so. The next films to gun for that will be the Game Plan and Seeker: Dark Rising but neither will make it there.

  17. EthanG says:

    Another “fearless” prediction about to fall? That Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix won’t pass it’s predecessor. It will do so by this time next week, becoming the 2nd highest grossing film of the series domestically. The fact it didn’t hit $300 million can be written off to insanely stiff competition this summer…by movies and the novel alike.

  18. EthanG says:

    So much for your prediction that Evan Almighty won’t make it too $100 million, David. The studio has made a big push in 2nd run theatres and it will reach this milestone by Wednesday.
    Another “fearless” prediction about to fall? That Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix won’t pass it’s predecessor. It will do so by this time next week, becoming the 2nd highest grossing film of the series domestically. The fact it didn’t hit $300 million can be written off to insanely stiff competition this summer…by movies and the novel alike.

  19. hendhogan says:

    the manager at my local bar has been joking with me about anticipating “dragon wars.” so, i knew it was coming out. from what i understand, it’s one of the biggest korean movies around (but don’t quote me).
    my friend on friday says “i hope it isn’t one of those monster films where it ends because love triumphs over all.” and i think that’s exactly how it does.

  20. Chucky in Jersey says:

    “Evan Almighty” made it over $100M for whatever that’s worth. Universal re-released it so megaplexes could have something for matinees.
    The real story is the weak product on the upmarket/arthouse side:
    “Silk” — an arty (Keira Knightley) programmer dumped with name-checking and little promotion.
    “In the Valley of Elah” — Name-Checking/Oscar-Whoring times 5. It’ll flop when it goes national.
    “Eastern Promises” — debuted in the top 20 but the trailer resorts to name-checking. It goes wide this week opposite “Good Luck Chuck” and the latest “Resident Evil”.
    “Across the Universe” — also debuted in the top 20. Sony says the pic has youth appeal; we’ll see if it can get the adults as well when it goes national.
    I know of at least 1 arthouse that picked up the 2-month-old “Hairspray” just to have something on screen.

  21. jeffmcm says:

    Chucky, will you ever explain yourself, please? “From director David Cronenberg” is pretty much the only way to sell a movie like Eastern Promises.
    I really don’t understand where you’re coming from.

  22. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    actually Jeff
    “SEE VIGGO’S COCK IN NUDE SHOWER FIGHT! ” is the way to sell EASTERN PROMISES

  23. L.B. says:

    So…movie trailers shouldn’t mention who directed or stars in the film because…?

  24. jeffmcm says:

    JBD: You had me at cock.

  25. hendhogan says:

    actually, it’s movie trailers like “we own the night” that bug me. it screams we made this for award season, not we made a good movie. by all means, list the actors, but do we need their pedigree as well?
    secondly, with the academy’s seeking of a younger audience and it’s attempts to make up for past snubs, does the brand even stand for the level of excellence portrayed?

  26. Cadavra says:

    “I think in the hands of a better filmmaker, [YUMA] could’ve been a classic…”
    You mean like Delmer Daves? 😉

  27. jeffmcm says:

    Cadavra, this is off-subject, but by any chance will you be at the Egyptian Thursday for Trail of the Screaming Forehead?

  28. Cadavra says:

    As a matter of fact, I’ll be emceeing. C’mon down afterwards and say hi.
    And that goes for the rest of you in L.A.! Be there or suffer my wrath! I am Cadavra and I feed my people…..to the crocodiles!

Quote Unquotesee all »

It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon