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Box Office Hell

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24 Responses to “Box Office Hell”

  1. LexG says:

    Beyond Oscar prognosticators and well-read Anglophiles, is the word really out there– at least yet– on ATONEMENT?
    For the supposed BP front runner and a major, major “chick” flick– well, most of the “chicks” I know don’t even know what it IS yet. I don’t think I’ve EVER seen a trailer or TV spot.
    I’m sure it’ll do fine this weekend in limited, and word-of-mouth will inevitably build; Just you’d think with such a “sure thing” they’d be pimping it a little harder. Again, WE all know about it and have been anticipating it for a year or so… but the mainstream? Indifferent to oblivious of its existence. Could this be another “smart” adult movie that just never catches on outside of the coasts?

  2. Richard Nash says:

    If ATONEMENT isn’t opening wide why would they have a huge advertising campaign for it? They are just going to let word of mouth build and hopefully catch some fire.

  3. brack says:

    I’ve seen many commercial/ads and have seen the trailer a couple of times, and I’m a “dude.” Not sure what that says about me, lol. But I loved “Pride and Prejudice,” and this is getting great reviews. “Juno” is also on my must-see list.

  4. ployp says:

    Go go Enchanted ! ! !

  5. Rothchild says:

    Less than 20 for Golden Compass.

  6. Odd that there aren’t ads in America. I’ve been seeing ads all week and Atonement isn’t even released here until Boxing Day.

  7. brack says:

    “Less than 20 for Golden Compass.”
    Sounds like you’re hoping for that, LOL.

  8. Rob says:

    Atonement is running tons of TV spots on Bravo. The gays love James McAvoy.

  9. Joe Leydon says:

    I watched The Bucket List tonight. All I can say is: You may be surprised.

  10. Aris P says:

    Rob – “the gays”… that’s funny. It reminds me of Hank, on Larry Sanders, saying “he’s a gay” about someone, and Larry saying “what are you, Italian?”
    Joe – why am I not surprised you said that. The script was eye-rolling shmaltz and by-the-numbers, just like Reiner. Yes, it’ll make money b/c it’s basic wish fulfillment stuff. Big surprise.

  11. Chucky in Jersey says:

    If “The Golden Compass” underperforms you can thank the Liberal Media. They’ve been running nonstop scare stories about the movie. One of those scare stories was in the Newark Star-Ledger yesterday on Page 1 above the fold.
    At the same time the Liberal Media won’t talk about how the movies with a fundamentalist Seal of Approval — “Fred Claus”, “Mr. Magorium”, “August Rush” — are flopping.

  12. Nicol D says:

    Can we have a side helping of hyperbole with that rhetoric?

  13. The Pope says:

    Surely if The Golden Compass “underperforms” you can blame the movie and the market. The film itself is really very boring (and this from someone who took his two nieces and nephew). There is an overload on the Harry Potter and the Chronicles of the Stardust Compass. And the previews were peddling The Spiderwick Chronicles… hilariously, my niece was guzzling her Cola during the preview and the second the trailer ended, she let out this massive BELCH. She went silent for a second with embarrassment and then everyone around her laughed. And then she laughed.
    But very few people laughed at any of the “jokes” in the Compass. My nephew tells me that they are only half-way through the first book.
    Yikes!

  14. brack says:

    “If “The Golden Compass” underperforms you can thank the Liberal Media.”
    LOL @ “liberal media”

  15. NickF says:

    8.8 mil or lower is disastrous.

  16. waterbucket says:

    The Golden Compass underperforms because people like myself still don’t know what the movie is about.

  17. jeffmcm says:

    August Rush has made $23 million so far, not really a flop for that kind of movie.
    And how the hell do any of those three movies have a ‘fundamentalist seal of approval’? Fred Claus?

  18. Cadavra says:

    MAGORIUM fundamentalist? Are you high? The film is even more pro-magic than any of the Harry Potters, and one character flouts God by literally willing himself to die. The Seal of Approval was awarded because the film is a G, not because it has some sort of religious agenda.

  19. L.B. says:

    Hang on. Are you two insinuating that Chucky is sloppy with his facts?

  20. brack says:

    I wouldn’t call Fred Claus a flop either.

  21. Chucky in Jersey says:

    “Fred Claus”, “Mr. Magorium” and “August Rush” all got a seal of approval from the Dove Foundation, which is closely tied to the hard right and the Christian right. “Mr. Magorium” displays the seal on the picture’s website; the other 2 display the seal in print ads.
    “August Rush” also displays a seal of approval from the Parents Television Council, an auxiliary of the right-wing Media Research Center. Shirley Jones resigned as the council’s honorary co-chairman after Howard Stern correctly accused the “Partridge Family” mom of trying to blacklist him.

  22. Blackcloud says:

    Every blog needs a useful idiot. Chucky’s ours. Except he’s more a useless idiot.

  23. jeffmcm says:

    The Dove Foundation also approves of Bee Movie, The Nightmare Before Christmas, and The Price of Sugar.
    It’s one thing to criticize these groups and another thing to blast the movies. I don’t think there’s much point in going after August Rush without actually seeing it, which is what it appears Chucky is doing.

  24. Joe Leydon says:

    Anyone remember the scene in Clean and Sober when Michael Keaton slipped into the doctor’s office at the rehab clinic to use the phone, and was cut short by Morgan Freeman? For some reason, I always think of that scene whenever Chucky posts, and then disappears.

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