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PGA Awards

Same as it ever (“ever” being the last few weeks) was…
PRODUCER OF THE YEAR AWARD IN THEATRICAL MOTION PICTURES
“The Diving Bell and the Butterfly” (Miramax)
“Juno” (Fox Searchlight)
“Michael Clayton” (Warner Bros.)
“No Country for Old Men” (Miramax/Paramount Vantage)
“There Will Be Blood” (Paramount Vantage/Miramax)
PGA is a pretty damned good 4 of 5 marker… like DGA… and unlike DGA, a pretty horrible 5 for 5 marker. Not once in the last decade, even when expanding to six nominees, have they hit all five Oscar nominees.
Of course, everyone will assume that Diving Bell is the one that should be nervous. But someone should. We’ll see who drinks whose milkshake in just 8 days.

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11 Responses to “PGA Awards”

  1. John Y says:

    Either “The Diving Bell” or “Juno” will be dropped to make way for “Into the Way.” I’m thinking “The Diving Bell” stays in, but it could really go either way.

  2. John Y says:

    And by “Into the Way,” I clearly meant “Into the Wild,” although I sort of like my typo title better.

  3. chris says:

    I’m buying something drops out, but I bet “Atonement” is the other nominee (it’s the Olivia De Havilland/Ernest Borgnine factor).

  4. Chicago48 says:

    Hmm…you all must be industry people, because if you ask the average man on the street if he’s seen any of those above named movies, 9 out of 10 will say no.
    “The Diving What?”

  5. Hopscotch says:

    Flip “Atonement” with “Diving Bell and Butterfly” and that’s my prediction.
    But I think the DGA noms are exact and you’ll see Schnubel make it, but not Wright.

  6. John Y says:

    Chicago48, isn’t that great? I love the fact that the Academy Awards still have the courage to nominate deserving pictures that nobody on the street has heard of.
    The day the Academy Awards becomes the People’s Choice Awards is the day I stop caring.

  7. Aladdin Sane says:

    I’m no industry person, but for the sake of argument, what 5 popular films would you nominate that everyone has heard of?
    Bourne Ultimatum would be a given for me. Superbad. Knocked Up.
    Other than that, quality “big” pictures are slim to none.
    God forbid we ever have an awards ceremony that isn’t the Razzies that celebrates the following as pristine pictures (entertaining or not):
    Transformers
    Spider-man 3
    National Treasure 2
    I Am Legend
    Pirates 3
    No thanks. I’ll stick with the PGA’s list for now – with the exception of the overrated Juno.

  8. The Academy never changed, the viewing public did.

  9. doug r says:

    Ok, how about
    The Simpsons Movie
    The Host
    Superbad
    I Am Legend
    The Dark Knight IMAX preview (best short).

  10. Sam says:

    The viewing public did most of the changing, but on the other hand I think there is a lesser-but-opposite reaction on the part of Academy. How else to explain the reluctance to nominate those few crowd-pleasers that are also quality films? I’d have loved to have seen Batman Begins nominated. But The Sixth Sense found its way in, and LotR made it thrice over.
    The PGA really screws up my Oscar predictions — or, perhaps more accurately, fails to clarify them. Before, I didn’t think Diving Bell would make it as a Picture nom, just as a Director nom. So is it Into the Wild (showing surprising guild support) or Atonement (Oscar baity, with its backlash not truly beginning until most of the Oscar ballots were in) to fill the remaining slot? The PGA might have reflected an edge of support one way or the other, but instead it favored neither and strengthened Diving Bell, leading one to wonder if it is supported enough to make the Picture list despite being in a foreign language. Being ineligible for Best Foreign Language Film might actually help its chances, leaving its supporters with one less avenue to champion it.
    Additionally, the DGA, strangely enough, aligns more closely with Oscar’s Best Picture list than its Best Director list. When surprise foreign language nominees show up in Oscar’s Best Director nominations, as they are wont to do, they tend to be unheralded by the DGA. So does this also suggest Diving Bell will overcome and land a Best Picture nomination?
    It is hard to imagine the PGA matching 5 for 5, but it’s faulty reasoning to presume it won’t, just because it seldom ever has. It’s like presuming the next coin flip will be tails, because the previous 10 were heads. The odds remain the roughly the same, swung this way or that only by the movies in play and the overlap of appeal between the producers guild and the Academy. Historically, they overlap about 80%. But past performance is not indicative of future returns, as they say in investments. The top 5 just might be the top 5.
    All the same, I think I’ll go for the DGA list matching up with Oscar’s Director nominees, while the PGA goes 4 for 5, with Into the Wild claiming Diving Bell’s spot.

  11. elizlaw86 says:

    Juno out, INTO THE WILD in.
    Think the line up looks something like this:
    NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
    THERE WILL BE BLOOD
    DIVING BELL & THE BUTTERFLY
    INTO THE WILD
    MICHAEL CLAYTON
    Only two guilds thought well enough of ATONEMENT to nominate it – the ASC and the ADG. No WGA, no DGA, no SAG, no PGA — doesn’t bode well for it and, frankly, I don’t disagree on the best picture side (though the first 40 minutes were gorgeous, it falls apart after McAvoy is arrested). Gangster is just okay and if they get in they are stealing a slot with ad buys. And Sweeney Todd, never going to happen though Tom O’Neil may be disappointed, I don’t think many others will be.

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