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BYOB – Thursday


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45 Responses to “BYOB – Thursday”

  1. Blackcloud says:

    So, 35 – middle age or not? I ask because I hit that lovely milestone tomorrow.

  2. Does anyone remember a film from the late 70’s where this family decides to sell everything and move into the wilderness?? I think I saw that movie like, 100 times as a kid and for some reason, just thought of it today out of the blue.
    All I remember (aside from seeing it a ton) was the opening credits play as the family packs up their station wagon and drives on a crowded freeway. I also remember the little daughter sitting alone in a meadow and a bear or mountain lion is approaching…

  3. LexG says:

    Savage Harvest with Tom Skerritt?
    (That had a family in the woods, a lion attack, and was on HBO every single day, sandwiched between King of the Mountain with Harry Hamlin and Green Ice with Ryan O’Neal.)

  4. No. This family was in Alaska or somewhere like that. It was wilderness, not Africa.
    Good call though….that one was a classic. How come Tom Skerritt never gets work any more? Maybe QT can resurrect him for INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS….

  5. FNG says:

    Has anyone here heard anything new on Wayne Kramer’s “Crossing Over?”

    The pic opens August 22nd in North America and there has not even been a release of a teaser-poster or a teaser-trailer. What gives?

    There have been some photos released:

    And there is an official web site: ( It’s there, just scroll on the film bar mid way through to the right – Look for August 22nd)

    That’s all, so far.

    This is a big Weinstein release, starring one Harrison Ford and one Sean Penn?


  6. Noah says:

    Happy birthday, Blackcloud. Considering the average life expectancy for someone in the US these days is 78, I think you’ve got another four years until you’re middle-aged.
    I like Tom Skerritt, I always thought he was excellent in the underrated Contact, as well as A River Runs Through It. Plus, I spent much of my youth rewinding the scene of him and Drew Barrymore doing it in Poison Ivy.

  7. Aladdin Sane says:

    WATCHMEN teaser up.
    As someone who is only a mild fan of the comic – ie I don’t think it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread – the trailer does look great.

  8. Crow T Robot says:

    Well the reviews for the Batman reviewers are coming in at Rotten Tomatoes…
    Apparently Edelstein is a faggot, Denby is a piss-filled ass bag(?), Zacharek is a cunt, White is a pedophile/nigger/Uncle Tom/Baptist Reverend, and Hunter has “an ugly fucking face.”
    Film criticism may be on the decline, but film criticism criticism is in its golden age, folks.

  9. LexG says:

    The BODY OF LIES TRAILERS *OWNS*. I don’t know much about Watchman, so it looked a little like generic superhero dorkiness aside from the Synderlook, but I liked the chick and the Corgan song.

  10. Aladdin Sane says:

    Ironically that song was used in Batman & Robin. I wonder if anyone let Snyder know.

  11. L.B. says:

    don, I know the movie you’re talking about. I can see images from it, but can’t come up with anything else. (Isn’t there a bit where they’re stuck in city traffic at the beginning and the da- played by some clean-cut Marc Singer type- says it’s time to get out?) If I could remember the lead guy’s name I could figure it out, but it escapes me. I remember that he was in a lot of 70s low-budget stuff, though.

  12. Sean says:

    Lex, the trick is that a lot of the superheroics of Watchmen should feel intentionally dorky, IMO. If they feel generically dorky, that’s (to me) the wrong effect.
    Crow, I thought Armond’s Batman review was one of his most cogent in some time. (Haven’t seen the movie; really like Nolan; also think that Batman Returns is the best Batman movie so far.)

  13. L.B…yeah! And I think he like…yells “we gotta get out of here” and there’s a camera pull back to the traffic/city and “here” echoes…I think. Hmm…

  14. L.B…yeah! And I think he like…yells “we gotta get out of here” and there’s a camera pull back to the traffic/city and “here” echoes…I think. Hmm…

  15. Aris P says:

    1) Body Of Lies trailer = generic. I can’t even tell what’s going on.
    2) Watchmen trailer = I can’t believe I’m actually seeing this.
    3) Can someone explain this poster to me?
    Is that Val Kilmer, or a CG rendering of his face from a video game? Bizarre.

  16. LexG says:

    Know what would make Watchmen look more awesome?
    Tila Tequila and/or Katy Perry.
    B O N E R.

  17. LexG says:

    This next post is going to be a masterpiece so make sure you recognize it:
    When I’m at THE CLUBS and KATY PERRY’S I KISSED A GIRL comes on, I’m usually mid-conversation with like six Yugoslav models in heels and dresses but then this comes on, and I’m like “OH, SHIT, THIS IS MY JAM!” just like Tyra in Coyote Ugly, and I excuse myself and set down my Pabst Ice and HIT THE FLOOR.
    The fucking SEA PARTS and they’re like, GO LEX, GO LEX! All flashing signs and cheering me on waving hand motions and I unbotton the top of my Izod shirt and ask someone to hold my aviator glasses, and I HIT THE FUCKING FLOOR breakdancing and OWNING SHIT and they’re all like, WHO THE FUCK IS THE GUY HE OWNS.
    And KATY IS BEING ALL HOT AND AWESOME WITH HER COOING VOICE ON THE VEGAS (VANILLA ICE REFERENCE YEP YEP) and I’m like LUCINDA DICKY just COLD RUNNING SHIT, but just when they think I’m all about the ’84, I bust into a fucking KRUMP that would make Nigel proud, all cutting loose and lip-synching along TO EVERY HOT-ASS WORD of this BOOMING ANTHEM and start grinding on Latinas and Korean chicks and feeling like fucking WULFGAR in NIGHTHAWKS.
    I usually then go home and have a six-some while playing the same joint all night.

  18. jeffmcm says:

    Here come those terrible headaches again…

  19. Aladdin Sane says:

    I have no idea what to make of Lex’s last post.
    And how does Stephen Dorff get top billing over Kilmer?!

  20. Earl Hofert says:

    The movie you are trying to think of is probably either “The Adventures of the Wilderness Family” or “Mountain Family Robinson”

  21. jeffmcm says:

    Re: Watchmen trailer – I don’t think Snyder got the ‘intentionally dorky’ memo. The trailer seems to have the same ‘every shot needs to be AWESOME’ (caps necessary) vibe that 300 had – and which indicates that he’s still more interested in style over substance.

  22. SJRubinstein says:

    Anybody else watch the Diaz vs. Rodriguez welterweight fight last night? When the ring ref was all like, “Can you continue to fight?” and Diaz just did that weird, animal roar, I figured something bad had just happened, but this is pretty bad:
    Re: the “Watchmen” trailer – I was staying away from this after those costume shots showed up and was all, “whatev,” but that’s a pretty great trailer. Now looking forward to the film.

  23. Armin Tamzarian says:

    @ aladdinsane: I would suspect the use of the Corgan song was intentional. Pretty sure Snyder’s gone on record as saying there’s going to be lots of references to superhero movies. The Ozymandias costume has nipples a la BATMAN AND ROBIN.

  24. Blackcloud says:

    Watchmen looks like more crap from Zack Snyder. I wonder how he’ll justify fascism this time. It was a lot easier in 300, since the Spartans were basically Nazis avant la lettre.

  25. L.B. says:

    Earl got it. Mountain Family Robinson.

  26. Roman says:

    Slow motion = fail.
    Also, who replaced Ridley Scott with a Tony Scott clone.

  27. Entropy says:

    “I wonder how he’ll justify fascism this time.”
    Maybe he consuted with Benicio Del Toro and Steven Soderbergh.

  28. Entropy says:

    “I wonder how he’ll justify fascism this time.”
    Maybe he consulted with Benicio Del Toro and Steven Soderbergh.

  29. Entropy says:

    “I wonder how he’ll justify fascism this time.”
    Maybe he consulted with Benicio Del Toro and Steven Soderbergh.

  30. Yay Earl!
    I just walked in from ENCOUNTERS AT THE END OF THE WORLD and am declaring it the comedy hit of the summer. Well, maybe not “hit,” but I was cracking up. It’s the ultimate jab at docs like MARCH OF THE PENGUINS and AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH. Great stuff…Herzog OWNS.

  31. LexG says:

    Roman, not really; Most of the interiors seem to be shot in Scott’s usual purple/aqua filter from Good Year, Hannibal, White Squall and G.I. Jane, and Leo’s car driving exteriors are ringers for any given scene in Black Hawk Down. It’s still a lot more brown and dusty, to say nothing of leisurely cut (even in the trailer) than a Tony. Looks pretty much like Ridley’s action movie style from G.I. Jane and BHD all around… the Toniest thing would be the surveillance angle and the Spy Gamey rooftop shots…
    Mostly I’m glad Ridley’s gone back (I’m hoping?) to widescreen and kinestic visuals after the extremely muted and 1.85 “American Gangster.” I know he was paying homage to the ’70s crime dramas with that look, but I had been wholly expecting some outlandish, Scarface-style amped-up sloppy masterpiece, not his most visually restrained movie.

  32. christian says:

    I watched that SAVAGE HARVEST movie everytime it was on HBO. Mainly for the scene with the lion eating the guy. Or something.
    I also watched Judge Reinhold’s most obscure film called RUNNING SCARED everytime it was on HBO. A fun action thriller…

  33. jeffmcm says:

    That’s funny, Don, I was probably watching Encounters at the End of the World at more or less the same time this afternoon.
    ‘Her story goes on forever…’
    Hey ‘Entropy’, do you live in Canada by any chance?

  34. That penguins scene in ENCOUNTERS had me LOLing and the funniest part was, everyone in the theater seemed to think what Herzog was saying was serious. I think his accent and tone make whatever he says sound reasonable. I was holding back my laughter so much tears were coming out of my eyes.

  35. CloudsWithoutWater says:

    Herzog is one of the most consistently funny filmmakers out there.
    Shame his humor sails on by most of the time.

  36. sky_capitan says:

    Liking the Green Yellow Red reviews. Works for me.
    Love the “Paper Planes” by M.I.A. track being used in the Pineapple Express commercial. If they’re aiming to be “hip” with that song, it worked for me.

  37. L.B. says:

    Ah, yes. CHE. The movie that will destroy everything we know and love. (At least the parts that haven’t been destroyed yet by his T-shirts.)

  38. jeffmcm says:

    If Mike Myers was ever going to try again to make a Sprockets movie, I would love for it to be a buddy picture between himself and Herzog. Obviously it would make less money than the Loch Ness movie but it would still be amazing.

  39. jeffmcm says:

    ‘Have you ever seen a penguin that was insane, or deranged?’

  40. Aris, I think that beard was photoshopped onto him. That doesn’t look real at all!

  41. IOIOIOI says:

    Nope, those are his whiskers. He let himself go a while back and some folks snapped some picture. It’s a pretty bitching van dkye.

  42. “is it true that some penguins are gay?”

  43. LexG says:


  44. jeffmcm says:

    (as spoken into a bathroom mirror)

  45. IOIOIOI says:

    My life is a meaningless fucking lie and everyone hates me? This does explain how things are going for my fantasy baseball team but nothing else.

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
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“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon