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(note: this e-mail was sent to me as part of a mass group, the contents are not private, and the name is only blocked because there is no reason to make this private person into a public one over my use of the e-mail to express ennui.)

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24 Responses to “Sigh…”

  1. Aladdin Sane says:

    And another one bites the dust.

  2. jeffmcm says:

    I thought this had been announced a long time ago?

  3. David Poland says:

    You’re like a teacher teaching intelligent creation in the summertime, J-Mc.
    Nooooooooo subtlety.
    (point of reference: Fat Albert)

  4. jeffmcm says:

    Sometimes, DP, I forget this blog is actually a diary. Yes, I got your point, but I thought it might be something else.

  5. Jeremy Smith says:

    I prefer Fat Abbot.

  6. David Poland says:

    You don’t have to get offense as a form of defense, J-Mc.
    There is a difference between anticipating a death and the day the body gets cold. Sorry that confused you.

  7. jeffmcm says:

    So…you’re three days early.

  8. jeffmcm says:

    (I apologize for my intentional rhetorical obtuseness, but seriously: who sends out an email like this? I’d be equally confused if it read “Hello. As of Friday Oct. 3 there will be 81 days until Christmas.”)

  9. T. Holly says:

    Can you pleaase stop putting commas at the end of sentences before the persons name? If you put a name at the top of the sentence, you’re addressing the person, so you set it off with a comma, but at the end, a comma signifies who the message is from, so there’s no need for a comma the way you’re using it.

  10. LexG says:

    T. Holly, that is absolutely incorrect.
    The direct-address comma rule applies wherever the address occurs in a sentence.
    “I was talking to you T. Holly,” for example, which is what you seem to be suggesting, is WRONG.
    As is ending a letter or post with: “That’s all I have to say about that, LexG.” That means I am addressing LexG, not that I am signing off.

  11. jeffmcm says:

    Three degrees!

  12. LexG says:

    That’s right,,,,,,,,,, Jeff.
    Thanks for recognizing.
    (I actually think T. Holly has piped up with this before, and I schooled him then, too. Of course he ignored it.)
    Jesus Christ. SHRUNK AND WHITE, BITCH.

  13. T. Holly says:

    Same difference here: If you like, we can talk about it. We can talk about it if you like.

  14. jeffmcm says:

    Lex, T. Holly is (a) female, and (b) not a native-born English speaker (correct me if I’m wrong).

  15. LexG says:

    ROCK ON.

  16. T. Holly says:

    Yes, there would have to action before the name to be a sign off. Minor phrases shouldn’t be set off by commas though in modern editing.

  17. jeffmcm says:

    They can be.

  18. The comma is totally expendable in this case, a relic from times of old. Get with the new, Lex. Maybe it’s the habits of editors coming out here but hey, if you can find a reason to eliminate a pause in the flow of a sentence I say go for it.

  19. yancyskancy says:

    Maybe it’s because I have an English degree, but I’m with Lex on this one. Such “relics” serve a purpose. Some pauses shouldn’t be eliminated. To take one of Lex’s examples: “That’s all I have to say about that, LexG.” The comma makes it clear that Lex is being addressed. Without the comma, it would mean the writer has said all he has to say about Lex (“that LexG”).
    Commas are notoriously difficult for lots of people, and I understand the impulse to just throw up your hands and say “f” it. I’ve read lots of stories and scripts by wannabes who randomly insert commas every five words or so in hopes of getting it right some percentage of the time. And others use none at all. Read a few dozen consecutive run-on sentences and see if you don’t think commas are our friends.

  20. jeffmcm says:

    Kris, that’s the same thinking that in movies suggests that every film should be paced faster, faster, faster. Which is nice when it drops out redundant material, less nice when it means abandoning intelligibility and meaningful interludes and reflection.
    This is one of those ‘slow erosion of standards’ things as far as I’m concerned.

  21. Triple Option says:

    Comma use in screenwriting is a real mo fo. Some will say they should only be included when the speaker is intended to pause, so a lot of normally correct grammatical uses would be eliminated. Although, as some of the examples brought up here would suggest, deletion of some commas could cause confusion and change of meaning by how the line is delivered.

  22. hcat says:

    “Ya see all you have to do is get an idea and write it down on paper and then hire someone one else to put in the commas and shit. I’ve seen scripts that had words I known were misspelled and hardly had any commas in there at all”

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