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Monday Monday… Can't Trust That BYOB

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43 Responses to “Monday Monday… Can't Trust That BYOB”

  1. Stella's Boy says:

    Any theories as to why Palin will not release her medical records?

  2. mysteryperfecta says:

    Any theories as to why Obama will not release his medical records?

  3. Stella's Boy says:

    He has at least released some details though, right mystery? If he has not released his complete medical records, no, I do not know why or if he has something to hide. Not everything is an attack. I am genuinely curious, not looking for conspiracy theories. I’m sure the CNN story I linked to is just another example of liberal media bias.

  4. hcat says:

    I’m thinking nip and tuck revelations.
    When the medical records thing was first mentioned a few weeks ago I knew we would never see them. Perhaps she is willing to release them for an extra $5 million along with her official emails.
    It is probably absolutly nothing but it of course looks like they are trying to hide something.

  5. Rob says:

    Mysteryperfecta, are you suggesting Obama is the father of the babies Palin had aborted while in college?

  6. mysteryperfecta says:

    “He has at least released some details though, right mystery? If he has not released his complete medical records, no, I do not know why or if he has something to hide.”
    Obama released, in May, a one-page letter from his primary care doctor, who had not even seen him in 18 months. By contrast, McCain has granted access to more than 2,500 pages of records, in 1999 and 2008, and a recent report, including all current medications, from a team of doctors at the Mayo Clinic that has been treating him for years.
    Personally, I’m not curious about Palin or Obama’s medical records. Biden and McCain are a different matter (because of their age), and they’ve released them.
    “Mysteryperfecta, are you suggesting Obama is the father of the babies Palin had aborted while in college?”
    For starters.

  7. jeffmcm says:

    But at least Obama has released _something_. Palin has released nothing, zip, nada, even after promising to do so (which she obviously just said to get out of the question asked on TV without ever actually meaning it).
    I mean granted, I do think she’s one of the worst people on Earth.

  8. Stella's Boy says:

    I remember hearing a story on NPR a few weeks ago about McCain and his medical records. If I am remembering it correctly, the story noted that the records were incomplete and/or in no apparent order, access was granted for a very limited amount of time, and no one was allowed to take notes on anything.

  9. doug r says:

    C’mon guys, you know the records would reveal no recent pregnancies in either candidate.

  10. David Poland says:

    Dance that sidestep, mystery…
    She claims, after releasing NO medical info of any kind, that she will… she lies… and your response is, “But Obama didn’t release anything but a one-pager.”
    THAT is the right wing in this election.
    People don’t actually agree with the politics of the right… so the only argument is “look at the other guy.” Fortunately, every adult knows how that playground bullshit works.
    I respect that you have and stick with your beliefs, no matter how willing you are to risk the nation with someone like Palin and a highly erratic McCain.

  11. David Poland says:

    Stella… they put 1500 pages of records in a room, invited (I think it was) 8 reporters… none from NY Times, other outlets not included… and gave them like 3 hours to look through them. No copies, no photos, no followup questions with his doctors.
    I think Sanjay Gupta was the one doctor allowed in.
    So they had to dig through all of the info in that short period… maybe find stuff… maybe not… and not have the support of his doctors to create perspective.
    If he isn’t hiding something, he sure acts like he is.

  12. Stella's Boy says:

    Thank you for filling in the blanks DP. I couldn’t exactly recall all the details.

  13. The Big Perm says:

    I think it’s only fair to assume, until she releases her records, that Palin has the serial killer gene.

  14. jeffmcm says:

    THAT’s the movie I wish Larry Flynt could have made (in terms of speed, not in terms of porn).

  15. David Poland says:

    There are those – even some very serious, very anti-McCain people – who now feel that there is no mystery regarding Palin and her pregnancy, etc.
    I still side with Andrew Sullivan. Just because there is smoke does not mean there is a fire… but why make smoke if there isn’t a reason?
    On the other hand, this dumb behavior has been a hallmark of the entire McCain campaign, so…

  16. scooterzz says:

    i was actually looking forward to my two block neighborhood walk to the polls tomorrow morning until a couple of hours ago when i realized the huge sea of ‘yes on 8’ and ‘mccain/palin’ lawn signs i’m going to have to navigate to get there…..
    all of a sudden this seems more like a quest than a stroll……

  17. hcat says:

    Obama’s Grandmother has died.

  18. mysteryperfecta says:

    Classic Poland. Even if the McCain camp controlled access to the medical records in the way you allege (and there is evidence to the contrary), its still WAY MORE access than Obama has allowed. And yet, you have the nuts to say that MCCAIN is the one who may be hiding something. Physician, heal thyself. THAT is David Poland in this election.
    I didn’t sidestep the Palin issue. I said I didn’t care. I said I didn’t care about Obama’s medical records, either. If Palin said she would release something, she should release it. I’m not excusing her. I compared the forthrightness of the two presidential and their medical records.

  19. mysteryperfecta says:

    …that should read “the forthrightness of the two presidential candidates and their medical records.”

  20. mysteryperfecta says:

    Report clears Palin in Troopergate probe

  21. jeffmcm says:

    Mystery, I have a degree of respect for you, but I don’t understand you.

  22. mysteryperfecta says:

    What don’t you understand?

  23. jeffmcm says:

    Well, the fact that you took the time to ask helps me quite a bit.
    Just where you’re coming from and, since it seems pretty clear you’re voting for McCain, whether you’re voting for him vs. against Obama.

  24. mysteryperfecta says:

    Where I’m coming from? Well, I’m conservative (read: NOT libertarian). I believe that when push comes to shove, freedom trumps equality/”fairness”. I believe working toward equality of opportunity, but not equality of outcome. I believe in personal responsibility, self-determination, and individual liberty. In that vein, I believe in limited, decentralized government power and the free market.
    I believe the federal government is responsible for national defense, international relations, national infrastructure, law creation and enforcement, and the protection of our liberties. Much beyond that, I just want them to leave me alone (I’m not talking about state and local government).
    I get one life; one chance, one shot. I’ve gotten this far with minimal “help” from the government. I want to succeed or fail on my own merits.
    As you might guess, I haven’t been happy with the GOP for quite a while. I don’t agree with McCain on many, many issues. But Obama represents a more direct threat to the values I hold– a proponent of centralized power, crib-to-coffin entitlements, income redistribution, increased intrusion into the free market, etc. He’s not lying when he talks about change; he represents a fundamental change from what I believe are the principles on which America was based.
    BUT– if Obama wins, he’s my president. If a preponderance of voting Americans want this country to look more like our European socialist allies, then this election can be a referendum on that change. Obama and what is likely to be a growing like-minded legislative majority will get an opportunity to realize this change.

  25. mysteryperfecta says:

    If Obama wins, it will be a real shame that his grandma didn’t live one more day to see it. What a mind-boggling thing it would be to see a child you raised grow up to be The President of the United States.

  26. jeffmcm says:

    Okay, I guess I thought you were more of a libertarian than that, which makes me understand what seemed to be a certain degree of cheerleading, although it does sound like you’re more anti-Obama than pro-McCain (this is probably the first election in my life where I’m actually voting pro-Democrat instead of anti-Republican). I get most of your positions, am in sympathy with some, am in solid opposition to others (mainly the ones in regard to the role of government, which I see as being necessary to counterbalance other non-governmental obstacles to human liberty). Thanks.

  27. mysteryperfecta says:

    “although it does sound like you’re more anti-Obama than pro-McCain”
    I suppose so.
    Just curious: would you mind offering up one non-governmental obstacle in which government provides an effective counterbalance?

  28. IOIOIOI says:

    The Euros have a better standard of living, but let’s act as if that’s a bad thing. Seriously; we can do so much better, but people like perfecta keep dragging us down. May what you believe in turn into a rotting corpse tomorrow.

  29. jeffmcm says:

    Mystery, what do you consider to be the greatest obstacle to human freedom in the next century? I’ll respond with my answer after you.
    PS: IOI is not a serious political commenter.

  30. LexG says:

    YOU KNOW WHAT, I am going to VOTE tomorrow, but other than PRESIDENT and PROP 8, I really haven’t given much thought about anything else. Should I read the literature, pick my choices randomly, or just vote “LEXG” or “CHRISTINA RICCI” on everything else?

  31. jeffmcm says:

    Another Monday, another 100cc of alcohol.

  32. LexG says:

    Jeff, give up some props, son:
    And this is NO BULLSHIT because I am REALLY trying, and I mean that: I went FOUR DAYS SOBER, then fell of the wagon tonight.
    And while I’ll surely kick it Plainview bender style for a good month now, those four days owned.
    But not as much as this fucked-up buzz.
    I MIGHT JUST VOTE FOR MYSELF, RICCI, OR E-BANKS in every category. JEFF, vote for me too and maybe I’ll make the news. Not like your ONE vote for Obama is gonna count anyway.

  33. mysteryperfecta says:

    “Mystery, what do you consider to be the greatest obstacle to human freedom in the next century?”
    Wow, quite a question. On a global scale, I would say something like… despotism. I don’t know if that’s the type of answer you’re looking for. I don’t know if you’re looking for something more abstract like ‘greed’ or ‘apathy’.
    This may require more thought on my part. Feel free to nudge me in a certain direction.

  34. Stella's Boy says:

    So mystery, what you are saying is that Palin was cleared by a personnel board whose three members she hired? Not exactly an independent investigation was it?

  35. Stella's Boy says:

    My father-in-law and brother-in-law are always going on and on about the federal government being too big. The Democrats just give too many handouts they say. Last week my brother-in-law signed up for food stamps. He hasn’t worked in over a month. His girlfriend is eight weeks pregnant. Ah, irony.

  36. Stella's Boy says:

    mystery I think your problems with Obama are a little overstated and based on the politics of fear. As a recent article in Slate says, McCain favors redistributing the wealth as much as Obama does, and the government redistributes wealth by its very existence. Also, Palin bragged of spreading the wealth around in Alaska thanks to huge taxes on the oil companies that allowed her to give every person in that state a nice big rebate check. And when a young lady asked McCain why her doctor father should have to pay such high taxes, he said because that is fair and rich people never pay as much as we think because they can afford really good tax attornies.
    McCain, Palin and the current GOP do not represent my values or stand for what I believe in. I can’t imagine casting a vote for someone who repeatedly lauds someone like Joe the Plumber or says that their opponent possibly believes terrorists are the good guys.

  37. IOIOIOI says:

    Jeff: marginalize me all you want, you blubbery whale, but I am rather serious. This shit actually means something to me unlike you. Who seemingly comes on here daily without any thought you would REALLY FIGHT FOR AS A HUMAN BEING. You are so passive, that the people in your life must owe you thousands of dollars. Seriously; you can go like you did before, and the same results will apply.
    Jeff aside; this is the day. Here’s hoping everyone does what’s right. We need a change.

  38. The Big Perm says:

    Lex, do us a favor and next time you go on a bender, get on a bike and drive on the edge of a cliff. That’s hopefully over a junkyard filled with rusty spikes of some kind.

  39. jeffmcm says:

    ‘Blubbery whale’?

  40. Stella's Boy says:

    Not shouting at people while calling them names does not make one passive. There is a fine line between passionate/excited and obnoxious/callous. I care and I’m pretty sure jeff does too. We just have different, more rational ways of expressing it.

  41. jeffmcm says:

    I’m just curious as to whether IOI thinks I’m a great big fat person (I weigh 155 lbs). For the record, my image of IOI is a rail-thin 130 lbs.

  42. Stella's Boy says:

    Wondering what IOI thinks sounds risky and unwise.

  43. yancyskancy says:

    jeff: IOI also thinks you are pithy and daft.

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
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“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

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