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Best. Oscar. Show. Ever?

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136 Responses to “Best. Oscar. Show. Ever?”

  1. Dignan says:

    Only if you hate surprises and are a raging musical queen.

  2. AlexStroup says:

    Well, the best Oscar show so far this year anyway.

  3. PastePotPete says:

    I thought Jackman at the beginning was terrific but the actual show was horrible imo. The grindingly boring Pineapple Express skit, the horrible music during the Animated Film reel(which made all of the entries look insipid).
    The offputting jazz in the costume/set design etc awards… that giant mess of a musical sequence by Baz Luhrmann… the ewok village-inspired best song montage. Awful.

  4. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    That was god awful. It was uncomfortable, it featured some really bad decisions, and demonstrates once and for all how much this Academy dislikes Darren Aronofsky. Easily one of the worst decisions and shows in years. Again: god awful.

  5. scooterzz says:

    overall, pretty good…

  6. Hallick says:

    The best one in a long time.

  7. I LOVED it, and my favourite part was the Screenplays, I was impressed how the Academy paid a proper tribute to screenwriters.
    I was so happy that Dustin Lance Black won.

  8. Hallick says:

    “…and demonstrates once and for all how much this Academy dislikes Darren Aronofsky.”
    Well, they did hire his last lead actor as the host.

  9. The Pope says:

    The best piece for me was when Spielberg came out and they did the montage of other similiarly themed great pictures for Best Picture.
    Overall, it felt really, really long. Happily however, what livened it up were some really nice speeches. I feared for her, but Kate Winslet’s asking her Dad to whistle will go down as one of THE great Oscar moments.

  10. NickF says:

    I enjoyed what I saw. They went over their allotted time, but I liked what I saw.
    Now I have a lot of Academy movies to watch on Blu-ray.

  11. Roman says:

    Good ceremony and overall a lot better than I expected (even though I do have some issues). I give big props to Jackman who is a great host and someone I would like to see AMPAS invite again in the future.
    Still, it didn’t manage to make me forget how poor (and predictable – 22/24) some the results were. Sure there are plenty of winners I am very happy for but I there were also some that made me shrug.

  12. Lynn says:

    Best in a long time. The opening was great — reminiscent of Billy Crystal’s openings, but with someone who can really sing. Some of the presenter pairings were brilliant (Tina Fey & Steve Martin) and the order of the awards actually had a logic and theme to it. The acting awards were so, so much better than clips — the reactions from some of the nominees was extraordinary and touching (e.g. Anne Hathaway). Overall some worthwhile experiments, decent speeches (except you, Mr. Costume Designer) and a great new host they should stick with.

  13. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Hal: they watched the Tony’s. Please do not act as if their decision had anything to do with The Fountain. Keep your glibness to yourself, or maybe to throwing Sophia under the bus.

  14. Hallick says:

    “Hal: they watched the Tony’s. Please do not act as if their decision had anything to do with The Fountain.”
    Okay…didn’t think I was actually acting that way. Just saying that in the Academy’s obvious vendetta against everything Aronofsky-related, Jackman must have slipped past their radar of hatred.

  15. Derek says:

    The set was beautiful and made it feel very intimate. The awards grouped together made total sense and told a story throughout the show of how a movie is made. Overall a very well-produced show and a great improvement over previous years.

  16. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Hal: he’s Wolverine and a song and dance man. I am just going with the speculation someone put on here last month, when he stated the Boss was not nominated. Thanks in no small part that the Academy Members simply did not care enough to watch it.

  17. I actually REALLY liked the show itself. The opening was outstanding and I loved how they trotted out former winners to give a little speel about the nominee. Of course making all the nominated women cry was an unfortunate side effect.
    But the winners were boring and the speeches-except for Lance Black and Sean Penn-were a snooze and so were the winners in general. The Oscar ad and voter machine is still too finely tuned to make the show any fun. Winners are known (by people who pay attention) for like, 2 weeks in advance. granted, the audience out there is way bigger than us ‘net movie nerds, but still. The game needs fixing.
    And Rourke was robbed!

  18. T. Holly says:

    It was like YES in the round at MSG.

  19. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Don: yeah he was robbed.
    I simply did not dig the hell out of the set-up. It just seemed way too hokey for an Oscar ceremony. I also have a problem with the nominees being put in that position. It’s just weird.
    If you like it. Good for you, but I eagerly await the next step in the Oscar evolution. Where this time they may appeal to… I don’t… 18-35 year olds. You know? Those people who buy things? Those people would make a great audience!
    Nice Soloist ad. I am eagerly awaiting that film.

  20. T. Holly says:

    Give it a break crybaby, Penn was validated and the best man won. Penn used his eyes and changed his personality to disappear into the role, Rourke relied on props, it was good, but it was mostly a cheat.
    http://tinyurl.com/c9gum3

  21. Tofu says:

    Best show I’ve ever seen, I’ll say that much. The energy was frenetic, and the show did a great job of introducing all the movies and what they were about, since hey, most people haven’t seen them yet.
    Didn’t hurt that I won my Oscar Pool, thanks in part to the Gurus. Love ya guys!
    Jon Stewart & Chris Rock, bless ya, made the shows unbearable and uncomfortable by putting everyone down. Here, we actually had a showman.

  22. christian says:

    I knew Jackman would deliver style and class.
    The “In Memorium” segment was ruined by live singing and the almost complete inability to show who the hell we were seeing.
    Jerry Lewis. Wonderful.

  23. So T Holly…you’ll live twitter “Friday the 13th” while you’re IN a movie other people who paid to see it but then are conspicuously twitter silent when alone at home watching the Oscars? Odd.
    I loved Penn’s performance, but kinda hated “Milk.” I don’t like the Uncle Tomification of gays. The only thing I liked in the film was Penn when he was playing Milk as a courageous leader instead of a borderline pedophile trying to lure young gay men to SF. And that kid in the freeking wheelchair?? C’mon.
    “The Wrestler” was my favorite movie of the year and it’s the one people will still love in 5 years. And I love the comeback kid Mickey Rourke story. Plus, his speech would have rocked Ram-Jam style.

  24. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Don Lewis everyone. He’s tops. Give it up for him.
    Again Mr. Twitter: HE’S A FRIEND OF CHAVEZ! Excuse me for not wanting him to win. Seriously; is it that hard to understand?
    I do find it funny that I am not even upset, but everyone else seems rather pissy. What gives? Upset the smoke monster doesn’t exist anymore?

  25. T. Holly says:

    Don’s smoking something funny in Petaluma. Mickey Rourke would have made crude dick jokes and cried faker than Kate Winslet. I was out taking pictures Don. Kind of land locked here in H’wood. Three foreign journalists were arrested for failing to yield to cops at a search checkpoint; no doubt they pray to Chavez!

  26. Tofu says:

    Don, the wheelchair might have been over the top, but that was essentially the screenwriter telling his own story.

  27. mutinyco says:

    I’d rather receive a colonoscopy with an IMAX camera than to sit through that again.

  28. LexG says:

    LEXTHOUGHTS TAKE 1: (Because I know you’ve all been waiting):
    1) WOW, who knew Andrew Stanton would be more ARROGANT and ENTITLED and FUCK YEAH, OF COURSE IT’S ME than Winslet or ANYONE SINCE JAMES FUCKING CAMERON. What a DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUCHE.
    2) Winslet was actually kinda cool and charming up there, so I take back being a dick about her sense of entitlement this year. That was a pretty nice moment.
    3) Haven’t been pulling as hard for anyone as Mickey Rourke since Burt Reynolds lost to Robin Williams in ’98. TOTAL bummer but Penn was class to send a special shoutout.
    4) Cheap-ass set and way too dimly lit. That shit actually looked like the fake-ass Oscars THAT ROBERT WUHL HOSTED in THE BODYGUARD.
    5) Franco and Rogen blowing some German pronunciation and then giggling about it like two frat pricks was FUCKING AWESOME.
    6) At first it seemed boring and winded, but bringing out the FIVE PAST WINNERS to present the acting awards was AWESOME AS FUCK, especially during Actor… De Niro was AWESOME.
    7) A little bummed that Eddie Murphy didn’t cut loose and do some actual comedy up there.
    8) Danny Boyle looks like he should dress like Paul Benedict did on Sesame Street.
    9) Slumdog Millionaire DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A SCORE, so Desplat got OWNED.
    10) BILL MAHER IS GOD, FUCKING OWNED THAT PLACE, and Petit is a MUGGING FRENCH MIME.

  29. sloanish says:

    Shocked by DP’s headline. The most painful parts were the best actor/actress deification ceremonies. They were spending five minutes laying out the fucking nominees and highlighting their great performances and cancer research, etc. The second most painful parts were every award where they basically showed the work of the nominees as they’re explaining the award and then read off all the movies again after we’ve seen them all. It was interminable.

  30. T. Holly says:

    And anyway Don, your role is to assess the performance when judging best actor, not whether you like the guy or the guy he’s playing. Rourke was all props: hearing aid, glasses, staple gun — I’m seeing it again Friday, I’ll twitter it.

  31. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Mutiny and Company: they are a company you can trust for great lines like the above.
    Again; if people dug it. Good for you. It pales in comparison to my favourite year: 2000. They also had freakin Dana Owens singing over the in memoriam. While Dana can sing, that part of the show does not need singing over it. Yo Yo Ma playing in the background? Sure. Dana Owens singing? Not so much.

  32. Tofu says:

    Those watching this at parties? Those watching alone?
    Without a doubt coming away with entirely different reactions.

  33. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Rourke was all props? Really? Mr. Twitter seems like someone who has never seen what the ravages of telling a story with your body can do to a person. They were not props. They were part of a character. A character who happens to be rather real in the world of wrestlers.

  34. LexG says:

    LEXG’S TOP TEN OSCAR B*NERS– ’09 EDITION:
    1) NATALIE PORTMAN
    2) JESSICA BIEL
    3) ANNE HATHAWAY
    4) ALICIA KEYS
    5) VANESSA HUDGENS
    6) EVAN RACHEL WOOD
    7) REESE WITHERSPOON
    8) MARISA TOMEI
    9) ANGELINA JOLIE
    10) BEYONCE
    HEY I won’t put her on the list in case she’s ‘bait or something, but who was that SMOKING HOT CHICK WITH MERYL STREEP?

  35. Definitely the best show I’ve seen in… well, maybe since I’ve been watching them (which, tbh, is only about 10 years. My first ceremony was Titanic). The set was fantastic. Nowhere near as empty and gharish as usual. Even the seating was pleasing on the eye.
    Hugh was wonderful and his opening number was great. SO much more entertaining that hearing the likes of Chris Rock or Jon Stewart do a comedy bit. And Jackman’s digs at the Academy didn’t feel mean-spirited like Chris Rock and not as smug as Stewart.
    The show had a great rhythm until about half way through when it felt like there weren’t any awards for a large stretch. Also by that stage we really did know how the night would go on bar best actor. The combining of categories like art direction/costume/make-up was really well done although, as someone else mentioned, the music was bizarre. Why did they keep playing?
    And the actors presenting actors won me over by the lead categories. I could really feel the emotion (in most cases) and it was generally moving to see actors be in love with their craft instead of just reading out the autocue (hi Zac Efron and Alicia Keys… why?!?) although I still miss the clips.
    The montages were more-or-less really good. Didn’t care for the animated one (including Space Chimps and Clone Wars but not Waltz with Bashir or $9.99?) and the romance one. Why didn’t the latter end in a culmination of screen kisses from 2008?
    In regards to the montages though, it was just nice to see some that felt appropriate and warranted instead of “Best Use of Food in Cinema Through the Ages!” or whatever. I can deal with subpar montages when they at least have relevance to the year in which we are celebrating. But, really, The Love Guru needn’t have been in any Oscar reel at all. Why not Hottie and the Nottie.
    Couldn’t they get anyone other than Reese Witherspoon to present Best Director?
    Rahman ruined his own songs – although the production of it didn’t help – and the bit at the end where terrible John Legend and Rahman just sang over each other was woeful. More thought into that next year, guys.
    Speaking of next year, I really do hope they bring back Condon and… whoever his working partner was, as well Jackman. Maybe if they kept Jackman they could develop another signature of the awards. Like Billy Crystal. The revolving door of hosts needs to stop.
    I was super glad for Black, even though his script is probably my least favourite of the nominees I was glad he got to say what he wanted to say. Same goes for Penn who I’d give my vote for. Rourke was great, but it was Penn all the way for me. Winslet was nice, Penelope was beautiful and the Ledger moment was lovely.
    I didn’t even mind Luhrmann’s music bit, although the “Dancing Queen” stuff was a bit much. Still, synchronised choreography on a staircase will get me every time!

  36. Joe Leydon says:

    Very good Oscarcast. If not the very best, then one of the best in years.

  37. T. Holly says:

    You forgot Rob Pattinson, Lex. Its not Buddy, Holly, it’s Holly, T. The one who did a better job telling a story with his body was Penn.

  38. mutinyco says:

    What was up with the out-of-sync audio? It was like watching Michael Winslow from Police Academy imitating a bad kung fu flick.
    Worst Oscars I’ve ever seen. I was getting gas pains trying to sit through it.

  39. T. Holly says:

    I’m just happy Joe’s happy. G’nite and g’riddance.

  40. mutinyco says:

    And what was up with that faux Gondry art direction from the opening number? They should’ve just gotten Gondry to direct the Oscars. THAT would’ve been inspired.

  41. The canned clapping was strange, I admit but really? Gas pains? I suspect hyperbole.

  42. LexG says:

    Yeah, SHITTY, cheap, LOW-RENT-ASS PRODUCTION DESIGN and dank lighting all around… looked like it was filmed in my Ohio uncle’s fucking game room.
    WORST OSCARS EVER. Cheap, boring, depressing, dreary, ugly, lame, campy, and in celebration of the shittiest slate of movies ever honored.
    But Jessica Biel was hot so it wasn’t a total loss.

  43. *sigh* So Lex’s rational switch is on OFF tonight I suppose.

  44. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    His rational switch is ON, because that was highly amusing. I am also now supporting the GONDRY for ’10 notion by mutiny. Heck. If they really want to mix it up. They should get Wes Anderson to do it. There’s simply better ways to tell the story of the year in movies, then this way.

  45. Cadavra says:

    Lex, that was Streep’s daughter and per the IMDB, she’s 17. Sorry.
    Has anyone checked out Nikki’s live-blogging? What a sad, pathetic, unpleasant, jealous, hateful, stream-of-consciousness rant. I can’t even feel anger toward someone this deranged, only pity. (I know she’s batshit crazy, but this was way over the line even for her.)

  46. LexG says:

    Hey, I’m glad you enjoyed it. Poland loved it too. More power too you.
    But pardon me for thinking a musical-number-heavy show with an Australian host might not get the most objective shake from a stage-musical-obsessed showtune fan (Poland) and a native Australian (KC).
    Really, you didn’t think those dinky, garish backdrops during the art direction/costuming awards were DEPRESSING AND UGLY AS SIN?

  47. LexG says:

    Well Streep’s daughter is ON THE FAST TRACK TO TOTAL OWNAGE; I thought her daughter was that MAMIE GUMMER chick? Looks like the younger sis hit the genetic jackpot.

  48. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Lex: I am with you on that one. The whole set was too compact. This is where they host the freakin Idol finals. That place is huge, and they made it ridiculously claustrophobic.

  49. LexG says:

    Speaking of AI and the Kodak, some year they should just have Ryan Seacrest host. Actually, it’s bound to happen someday. That guy is a TOTAL PRO and would keep this shit on track like clockwork like NOBODY’S business.
    Seacrest in 2010.

  50. leahnz says:

    so much for it being shorter, wasn’t it supposed to be shorter? i didn’t feel shorter. it really needs to be shorter.
    random musings: a little ‘on the cheap’ looking, but the page-to-screen-to-post gimmick worked pretty well; jackman was charming and nonthreatening; the wall-e score got robbed; franco/rogan sketch: epic (messing up the winner’s name: too goofy for oscar); the past winners/presenters circle jerk was nauseating and awkward at times, and way too time consuming; the ‘slumdog’ folks, while not deserving of just about every win on offer, were genuinely gracious; funny how during the ‘best actor’ love-in, brody looked exactly like de niro in ‘angel heart’; sean penn’s perf as harvey milk is fucking all-time and he deserves any recognition coming his way (plus he knows he can be insufferable and gave kudos to rourke, classy); the ‘lucky me’ short doc lady’s speech was cool; that long-suffering robin wright sure is a stayer.

  51. LexG says:

    WHY DIDN’T EVAN RACHEL WOOD PRESENT IF SHE WAS THERE? LAME.
    Also, when the ratings come in UNDERWHELMING, there is but ONE REASON: WHERE WAS K-STEW????

  52. But the stage is always so empty and with garish colours. It was so much nicer to see a more compact, elegant, sleek and streamlined image. We don’t need 50 ft tall Oscar statues, revolving staircases that lead nowhere and stages that take five minutes to walk across.
    The “faux Michel Gondry” sets were a joke to the economy. I dunno, some people will never be happy. They wouldn’t be happy with the regular stage setup (“it’s old, it needs to be changed!!!”) nor would they be happy with the new setup (“too small! cheap!”). etc.
    What does Jackman being Australian have to do with anything? For someone who goes on and on about people being CHARMING I would’ve thought you’d appreciate someone hosting the awards that isn’t smug or mean-spirited but could charm the pants off of anyone.
    Although I’m not even sure why I’m defending the show to people like Lex who thinks it’s all a big fuckin’ joke and IO who doesn’t care about any of it.

  53. LexG says:

    I’ll give you that JACKMAN OWNS and he’s a damn sight better than that smug tool Jon Stewart.

  54. Tofu says:

    Jon Stewart. A tool. Riiiiiight.
    I mean, we know you like attention Lex. Hats off there. But saying that water is dry isn’t the way to go about it.

  55. LexG says:

    Sorry, Tofu, I should’ve said Stewart’s a no-talent hack douche with annoying politics and a smugly insular hatefulness.
    He’s Bill Maher for pussies.

  56. christian says:

    Can Beyonce go away now? Does anybody sing live anymore?
    And I loved Michael Giacchino’s music cues. He even slipped in his wonderful “Roar” piece…

  57. Tofu says:

    His selections of Lost World and Planet of the Apes were surprisingly inspired.

  58. I didn’t like Jon Stewart as Oscar host either, Tofu. Something about him rubbed me the wrong way. Same with Chris Rock. Why did Stewart laugh all the time at his own jokes. The only time Jackman laughed was during the entirely ridiculous (and actually funny) dance number for The Reader (“The Reader! I Haven’t seen The Reader!” etc).

  59. jeffmcm says:

    “Best. Oscar. Show. Ever?”
    Wow. David Poland, you never cease to surprise me…with your horrible taste.
    The single thing that I disliked most was the absurd five-person team-up to deliver the acting awards. Talk about drawing out the show to a pointless degree – chop this out and the show gets half an hour shorter.
    Re: Dustin “Lance” Black, I think that the person who won the best original screenplay of the year should win the award for Best Original Screenplay, but then I’m weird like that.
    Lex, I still don’t understand this “smugly insular hatefulness” thing you’re talking about. You’re wrong and terrible.
    And Rourke was robbed.

  60. LexG says:

    Wait, has anyone complained about that BIZARRE presentation of the IN MEMORIAM section?
    Was it some technical glitch that they couldn’t just FILL OUR TV SCREENS WITH WHAT WAS BEING SEEN ON THE MONITORS?
    Camera was roaming all over the stage, and at least a third of the NAMES WERE UNREADABLE TO THE TV VIEWING AUDIENCE. Instead they’re gliding over Latifah’s head and making people all dizzy and shit, then AIMING THE CAMERA AT VARIOUS MONITORS BUT NEVER QUITE STICKING WITH A STABLE SHOT FOR TOO LONG.
    WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT SHIT?

  61. jeffmcm says:

    You’re right about that. It was stupid.

  62. LexG says:

    “And Rourke was robbed.”
    I agree; As I said upthread, it was the win I was most invested in. Penn is also one of my all-time faves so no shame in losing to him. But I wonder what this means for Mickey’s comeback.
    Reynolds’ comeback story in ’98 was nearly as heartbreaking and rootable… and of course he pretty quickly went right back to DTV movies and TNT crime dramas and bit parts and weird makeovers.
    Is The Mick back on the A-LIST even without the win… or will this send him straight to YET ANOTHER 9 1/2 WEEKS: WRESTLEMANIA EDITION?

  63. The In Memoriam was odd. Cyd Charisse was first, but you couldn’t even make out her name or her face.
    Jeff, Milk isn’t adapted from anything other than real life events so that makes it original. And while his was my least favourite of the NOMINEES i’m fairly sure he would be my favourite WINNER. Such a great speech. I actually teared up quite a bit.
    And while I agree the five person thing took far too long, I actually thought it was kinda cute. Inviting them into the club and whatnot. Plus it was nice, for a change, to see actors actually sounding genuine and in love with their craft instead of reading bad dialogue off the autocue.
    And, like with IO in the other thread, I can understand wanting Rourke to win but I think it’s a big disingenuous to say he was “robbed” when the person who won is Sean Penn giving that performance. It’s not like when Helen Hunt won. To be “robbed” you need to be beated by someone who didn’t deserve it at all.
    But then it sounds like you hated Milk so there’s also that…

  64. jeffmcm says:

    The thing about Mickey Rourke is that, aside from paycheck character roles, this is it for him – no other role is as perfect for him because he’s just too weird-looking for anything else for the rest of his life.
    Kami, I didn’t say that DLB didn’t write an original screenplay in my above posting. I’m just saying it wasn’t the best – it struck me as pretty routine, by-the-numbers, unimaginative.But Milk was actually my favorite of the five nominees, so there. (Sticking tongue out at you.)
    And re the actors thing, I thought some of them were pretty stiff and unbelievable at reading their scripts off the teleprompter – it’s not like they got to choose which nominee they were supposed to be falling in love with, aside for some of the obvious ones, like DeNiro and Penn, or Walken and Michael Shannon, which was inspired.

  65. LexG says:

    Yeah, I gotta defend the FIVE RETURNING ACTOR thing again: That really did own.
    Some of them were weird, but the Shannon/Walken thing was like a PASSING OF THE TORCH and TOTALLY inspired and just PERFECT.
    And when DeNiro came out, I was torn as to whether he’d fete Penn or Rourke, who he’d so notoriously bonded with in a “passing of the torch” kinda way on “Angel Heart” (Rourke constantly talks that experience up as being a huge personal and career highlight, going toe-to-toe with DeNiro.)
    And how AWESOME, CHARMING, EARNEST, BEAUTIFUL AND FETCHING was HATHAWAY when she was getting talked up by Shirley MacLaine? That was genuinely awesome and Hathaway was clearly moved and honored. That shit genuinely OWNED.

  66. LexG says:

    Oh I forgot to mention that MARION COTILLARD and AMANDA SEYFRIED also gave me a BONER.
    But HATHAWAY was BEYOND C H A R M I N G.
    HATHAWAY > K-STEW.

  67. I guess I just feel like people should be rewarded for the performance not for whether they ruined their career and somehow made it back. :/
    “I think that the person who won the best original screenplay of the year should win the award for Best Original Screenplay” certainly read like you thought it wasn’t actually original. Like a Gangs of New York/My Big Fat Greek Wedding scenario. That year was a farce for that category. I’m surprised Chicago wasn’t classified as original by some loophole. Oh well. Black’s screenplay was my least favourite, too, nothing against it but it’s certainly the least memorable in terms of structure and dialogue, but I’m glad he won purely to see that speech. That was magic, folks. And I’m glad he got it down on paper and actually wrote the thing. Milk’s story has been notoriously tricky to get up on screen.
    And with the actors thing… well, no, they didn’t get to choose, but it felt a helluva lot more genuine that Daniel Craig or whoever else. It felt special and different, which is what they need. It wasn’t just a wash, rinse, repeat situation. I guess I just really appreciated that. it felt far more of a celebration of film than just a rolecall.
    And, see, no petty name calling! How will the blog cope?

  68. leahnz says:

    having a proper read:
    ‘franco/rogan sketch’
    sketch? can i just correct myself for being retarded? SKIT. but really, that hilarious little apatow film with james and seth stole the show, they shoulda let franco and rogan host the whole show in ‘pineapple’ character, now that would have been a hoot (i suspect tina fey next year)
    ‘And while I agree the five person thing took far too long, I actually thought it was kinda cute. Inviting them into the club and whatnot. Plus it was nice, for a change, to see actors actually sounding genuine and in love with their craft instead of reading bad dialogue off the autocue’
    well, apart from the fact i thought much of it sounded stilted, forced and awkward, the main flaw with that whole idea is that this is a bloody ‘acting in film award’, and since when is standing around talking about/describing something a valid substitute for actually SEEING it up on the screen? too weird (and did no one else think adrian brody was channeling de niro’s exact look in ‘angel heart’ up there? too weird part II)
    and the ‘in memoriam’ was a balls-up, who designed that eye-squinter?

  69. LexG says:

    SUGGESTION FOR NEXT YEAR’S HOST(S)
    LEXG AND KATY PERRY. FUCK YEAH. I can sing and dance. In 1990 I was in a clique that would hit up the local clubs and jam the fuck out to Vanilla Ice and Humpty Dance and shit. I might be fat as fuck but I got MOVES. YouTube video to verify this is in your NEAR FUTURE.
    BACKUP CHOICE:
    LEXG AND KRISTEN STEWART.
    DOUBLE FUCK YEAH.

  70. LexG says:

    Fuck it, I love Poland and I know he hates when I do this shit, but it’s OSCAR NIGHT and the EYES OF HOLLYWOOD are on this BLOG, so I’d be remiss if I didn’t pimp MY BRILLIANT SHIT, so ALL AGENTS, ALL PRODUCERS, especially ALL YOU CABLE CHANNEL MOTHERFUCKERS, get the fuck on the LEXTRAIN and OFFER ME A GODDAMN JOB so I don’t have to go to some BULLSHIT DAYJOB and wear my depressed ass into the ground.
    Give me a goddamn show on TV where I talk about movies and hot snatch and YOU WILL SEE YOUR RATINGS GO THROUGH THE ROOF, you will CATCH THE FUCKING JUGGERNAUT, I will COMMAND your channel or show and make it APPOINTMENT FUCKING TELEVISION.
    If you produce a REALITY SHOW or a POP CULTURE SHOW, hit me the fuck up at lexownage@yahoo.com and make YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE– not just mine, but YOURS, I will straight-up FUCKING CHANGE YOUR LIFE and you will be counting cash while the VAG FLOWS FOR ME LIKE CRYSTAL GEYSER.
    I have 10 years of STANDUP EXPERIENCE at SOME OF LA’S HOTTEST VENUES, I have appeared in student films, as a background extra in major Hollywood productions, and I AM THE GREATEST SCREENWRITER IN THE HISTORY OF THE FUCKING WORLD.
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  71. adaml says:

    Cuba Gooding Jr.????????
    The only reason he should ever be on the stage at Oscar again is to give his Oscar back.
    Notice how out of the 20 presentations for the acting awards 19 were about the performance and 1 was about me me me. The guy is a complete wanker.

  72. CaptainZahn says:

    Glad you enjoyed the show, Dave.

  73. montrealkid says:

    I am honestly shocked at all the love for the show here. The five presenter idea was a disaster. Watching actors give each other verbal handjobs was a complete and total embarrassment.

  74. The Pope says:

    Somewhere about the middle of this blog, Cadavra remarked on Nikki Finke’s page. I went over there. Big mistake. Utter, utter bile. Parts of it read as though she were breathing in the gin. So caught up in herself that she missed the good bits… like the lack of clips. I liked the Actors coming out in fives. It needs a little fine tuning, but I like it.
    If they retain it next year, they should make sure that they keep the camera close as the winner comes off stage with all the previous winners. I like it. I really, really like it!

  75. mysteryperfecta says:

    I thought the show was good. Jackman was charming, and the opening number was great. Not every idea worked for me, but overall, it went well. Of course, I didn’t care who won, so the award results had no effect on my enjoyment of the show.

  76. westpilton says:

    Not a good show. Jackman was fine but the production itself was awful. I didn’t get too far into it before I gave up and went to bed. Maybe an hour? The decision to bring 5 random previous winners on to present the acting awards was horrible. The best part of the show that I saw was Ben Stiller.

  77. Tofu says:

    The five presenters part was excellent until Adrian Brody. Ugh. Otherwise, it showcased that the show was The Oscars, and not the freakin’ People’s Choice Awards or some junk. Watching the winner walk off with other winners instead of some model was a nice change.

  78. hcat says:

    I liked the five presenter model though it did take much too long, and the in memory montage was nothing short of criminal.
    Couple quick questions-
    Did I miss it or did Winslet not thank Harvey? He has got to be fuming.
    What is with Phillip Seymour Hoffman’s head? He’s been wearing that stocking cap thing the last few times I saw him. Did he shave his head for a role or something?

  79. mutinyco says:

    Did anybody else catch the glitch early on when a montage was beginning, but the curtains weren’t parting? And then, briefly, you could hear the director’s voice say something like: “Open the curtain!”
    Or the flub: Seymour Philip Hoffman?
    (In case anybody else mentioned those I don’t feel like reading through the previous 75 comments…)

  80. mutinyco says:

    One last thing. The stage during the actors awards looked like it was designed by Albert Speer.

  81. Harley says:

    That’s a joke, right? Or maybe a pro forma Whatever You Can Do I Can Do The Opposite reaction to Nikki’s fairly humorous live-blogging takedown. Both?
    In truth, it was all sorts of bad, with a little good mixed in. The musical numbers were a travesty, an embarrassment, and pretty much what everyone feared and expected, given the producers and host. Turning the actor presentations into a Project Runway-like reality show clusterfuck was probably a bad idea, tho’ it did allow for DeNiro’s charming and funny introduction of Penn. On the other hand, the new stage was nice, the pace was okay, and they didn’t play anybody off during an acceptance speech, an act that almost seems graceful given the context.
    Back to the bad. No clips, the Year in Romance montage was pointless, the Seth Rogan/Franco skit was very funny but also pointless.
    Can Steve and Tina host next year?

  82. mutinyco says:

    It was 3 1/2 hours of Rob Lowe and Snow White.

  83. anghus says:

    I like the style of the show, but was underwhelmed with the content. It’d be great to get back to a show where the actors and talent aren’t the butt of the jokes. Billy Crystal had that balance between goofy and fun. Then you have guys like Stewart, Chris Rock, etc. who spent most of the time roasting everyone.
    So i like the whole concept of a glamorous Hollywood party where everyone has fun, but the content was a little too cheesy. Musical numbers are fine, but make them have a purpose.

  84. Kim Voynar says:

    Re Nikki Finke: she titled her post “Live-Snarking the Oscars.” She was committed to hating it before she even turned on her tv screen. I read her posts a couple of times before closing out the window and not going back … so much hate, bile and misdirected venom throughout.
    She was utterly determined to find everything to hate about what she was writing about — otherwise, it wouldn’t be “live-snarking,” would it? — and it wouldn’t have mattered who hosted, if they did it perfectly, how the sets were designed, how the awards were presented or who won, girlfriend was determined to hate what she saw, and she got exactly what she wanted. Reading her was like watching a slow train wreck, just painfully ugly. Maybe she was pissed because she was watching at home and wasn’t invited to sit in the Kodak theater in fancy dress, whatever.
    As for the ceremony itself, I mostly liked it. Re the complaint about them making the Kodak Theater look too small: I think that was the idea, to create the feel of an intimate space out of something cavernous. I liked the orchestra being off to the side, liked the stage jutting out with the seats up close to it. I thought, for the most part, that it looked lovely, and it seemed the attendees were having a much better time than in previous years. Liked the opening number, kind of liked the best picture song and dance thing, esp. The Reader.
    Loved Tina Fey and Steve Martin, could have seen more of that.
    And I liked, generally, the idea of having five previous award winners laud the nominees and present the award together, although the execution was sometimes flawed, which unfortunately made it feel like some of the nominees got stuck with a lousy person to laud them (ie Downey Jr and Gooding, wtf was that about?)

  85. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    K: what on earth gave you the impression that I dislike the Oscars? What on earth would ever give you that impression? I love this show, I want this show to survive, but last night was another nail in the coffin. It sucks, it’s sad, but dinosaurs went away. So should this show I guess, in a world where this type of show really is not hip or with it.
    I love the Oscars. I simply think last night represented the Academy sliding their petard in a bit deeper. It’s six percent up in the overnight, but as I learned from reputable wrestling journalist. The overnight and the final rating vast differently.
    Oh yeah K: Sean Penn is not Ed Norton. He is not the greatest actor alive. Rourke happened to be one of the greatest actours alive at one stage of his life, and he gave an incredible performance. Only to lose to a man who gave an incredible impersonation. Rourke was robbed. If you are looking at it with any other distinction. You miss the point about how great Rourke was in the Wrestler, and how his performance will last a lot longer then the impersonation.

  86. Jeez…it’s almost like for every one thing someone liked, someone else hated it. Weird.

  87. Joe Leydon says:

    According to the overnights, this year’s Oscarcast enjoyed a 6 percent uptick in the ratings. I wouldn’t be surprised if the increase is slightly higher when the national numbers are totaled — just like what happened for this year’s Super Bowl.

  88. mutinyco says:

    Just for the record, having 5 previous winners introduce the acting nominees is terrible. I really don’t need to see the privileged sucking the dicks of the privileged.
    What are the nominees there for? Roles in movies. What movies? Gee, let’s see a clip of the work they did that got them nominated. It works as a reminder for those who’ve already seen the movies, and it works as an advert for those who haven’t.
    But by having this circle jerk instead of actually showing the work, it’s all about… I’m not really sure what it’s about, other than trying to up the star-wattage by bringing a bunch of famous actors together onstage.

  89. movieman says:

    Overall, I thought last nite’s show was….okay.
    As long–and occasionally meandering and even pointless at times–as the telecast was, it was a generally entertaining evening.
    Except for Foreign Language Film (NOBODY saw that one coming!), I somehow managed to correctly predict every
    category this year (skipping the animated, live-action and doc shorts may have helped my average, lol). Yet, despite the predictable–hell, inevitable–outcome, I was rarely bored,
    which is more than I can say about most years.
    Only two winners (Winslet and Penn) actually made me sit up in bed and applaud, though.

  90. Rob says:

    The ratings are going to go into freefall because they didn’t nominate The Dark Knight!
    Oh wait…
    http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/02/academy-awards-oscar-ratings-1.html

  91. Joe Leydon says:

    Mutiny: I have to disagree. In fact, I think the actor-greeting-actor intros served as a welcome reminder of something that often is forgotten during all the Oscar hype: This is an event where one’s work is acknowledged — and rewarded — by one’s peers. Not by critics, not by fans, but by peers.

  92. mutinyco says:

    Yes, Joe. But where was the work itself? See my point. I want to see the work they’re actually nominated for. Not just somebody else saying nice things to them. This show is supposed to be celebrating movies — and as far as I could see last night, the movies weren’t there.

  93. Yeah….Cuba Gooding Jr. and Marion Cottillard are sure privileged, mutiny. Their careers have skyrocketed since they got an Oscar.
    I liked the former winners introing the nominees. Can you imagine if someone you idolized was at the freeking OSCARS talking abot you?? That must have been amazing…for some. Ben Kingsley introducing Mickey Rourke was strange.

  94. mutinyco says:

    Marion Cotillard’s career has skyrocketed. Her next two movies are Michael Mann’s Public Enemies and Rob Marshall’s Nine.
    And Cuba has never stopped working. He just made bad choices.
    I want to see clips. Not neck licking.

  95. Joe Leydon says:

    Again, I have to disagree. I think eloquent praise from an established and respected peer would mean more to a nominee (and, yes, to the audience) than a 10- or 15-second film clip that never really is adequate to convey the totality of a great performance. Put it another way: I enjoyed hearing Shirley MacLane praising Anne Hathaway, and Anthony Hopkins laud Brad Pitt, a lot more than I would have enjoyed seeing yet another clip from Rachel Getting Married or Benjamin Button. Besides, let’s face it: By this point, the same clips have been shown again and again — and not just at other awards shows.

  96. anghus says:

    i liked the 5 actors introducing the nominees. It’s classy. And you can call it ‘dick sucking’, but its a fucking award show. You can reduce the whole thing to dick sucking. It’s reverence, it’s respect, and that’s what it’s all about.
    Whether you liked the show or hated it, they did their job. Today, people are talking about the Oscars and having a healthy debate on what they liked or didn’t like. The show is a discussion piece.
    As for Finke, i just don’t get it. I truly believe that people love celebrities, and then inevitably want to see them fail and destroyed, and her popularity basically proves to me that there is an unhealthy obsession with celebrity and she is now the ‘industry insider’ of this hate movement. She called The Reader ‘holocaust porn’. In a movie where the holocaust is referenced and a concentration camp visit makes up the entire presence of it in the film. There are no flashback scenes or moments of button pushing manipulation. It hovers over the second half of the film like a fog, but it’s never center stage other than the courtroom scenes. To call it ‘holocaust porn’ is just ridiculous.
    But it’s a minor point regarding a sad woman who has somehow managed to rise to the top of reporting information on the entertainment industry when she seems to hate everything about the industry.
    Say what you will about Harry Knowles, but at least the man enjoys the films he writes about poorly. Finke spews Bile, she seems intent on tearing down everything, and people somehow elevate her to a level of esteem for doing so. There is no more respect left on internet film sites. It’s all ‘fuck this face’ and people leaving festivals because their wi-fi doesn’t work, and idiotic behavior that garners a following.
    The internet thrives on picking away at the industry rather than celebrating it.
    They take a positive spin on celebrating the acheivements of the nominees and its called dick sucking.
    It’s always been dick sucking, it’s just now en vogue to scream it at the top of your lungs.
    I guess it’s not cool to like anything anymore. And you can’t just not like something, you have to tell everyone how it raped your eyes and ears.
    What a joyless portal this internet is.

  97. christian says:

    What’s missing is a master editor or director or even fanatic putting proper film clips together. Actually find moments from the nominated films that have not been seen over and over. Showcase that.
    The Jerry Lewis montage looked like it was put together by a cable access group replete with monotone narration. Where was Scorcese?

  98. bmcintire says:

    Mutiny – every year, there is a heralding chorus of complaints bitching about one aspect or another of the Awards. Apparently last year’s squeaky wheel of “too many fucking clips” got the grease this year and they did away with the majority of them. I for one missed them, but would have been equally happy to have the acting awards presented the way they were last night with the addition of the clips (which would have added maybe 10 minutes in total to the show).
    And whether he’s kidding or not, I agree with Dave’s headline. I haven’t enjoyed them this much in years.

  99. Joe Leydon says:

    Anghus: Unfortunately, I have to agree with much — most? — of what you wrote. In fact, I would go one step further: I have come to think that many of the nastier comments posted here and on other movie blogs are posted by frustrated wanna-bes on the fringes of the film industry. (And before you ask: No, Mutiny, I

  100. Kim Voynar says:

    @montrealkid “The five presenter idea was a disaster. Watching actors give each other verbal handjobs was a complete and total embarrassment.”
    Disagree with you on this for the most part. In what way was it a “complete and total embarrassment?” Embarrassing to whom? Were you embarrassed for the presenters who were more awkward that others? Embarrassed at the display of peer recognition of some pretty big names — often people the nominees probably look up to tremendously — toward this year’s crop of nominees?
    “Embarrassment” just seems a really odd word choice here of the oversweeping, generalizing variety. Not really sure what you mean by that, other than being snarky.

  101. christian says:

    And no John Phillip Law in the memorium?

  102. Chucky in Jersey says:

    See? I told you it was fixed!

  103. Joe Leydon says:

    In what way, Chuck?

  104. anghus says:

    Joe, almost everyone who runs a film site has or had aspirations of being on the creative side of the film industry.
    It’s like the kids who want to be on the football team and lack the skills, so they end up being the ‘team manager’. I know Heat was writing screenplays at some point. We all know that Knowles has unsuccessfully attempted to produce a few films. The Chud guys were pushing their prehistoric Jan de Bont film. The bile often times doesn’t come from a critical place but an armchair director ‘i could have dont that better’ place.
    It’s just sad. In Finke’s case, i don’t think she ever had aspirations to be anything other than a canker. And she’s marvelous at it. I just can’t imagine spending all her time like the freakish shut she is reporting on the industry in such a hateful way. Is there any joy in what she does other than her weird sense of superiority for reporting what studio reps tell her ‘in confindence’ in the knowledge that she will report it verbatim?
    I don’t understand how sitting in front of your computer copying and pasting emails from the studio like a shill makes you a ‘reporter’, or garners you a following. Or how anyone could read her Oscars blog and go ‘YES! this is the perspective i’ve been looking for’
    As for Lex, just because he’s honest about him doesn’t make it any less pathetic. Lex is the very kind of cancer that makes the internet film site such a chore these days. Lex is just another attention seeker who brings little to nothing to any conversation, and if his quest for fame is anything other than some kind of andy kauffman-esque blog performance piece, than i don’t even have the words for how truly pathetic it is.
    Why doesn’t he just find a camera crew and jump around wildly in the background?

  105. Thank you Anghus! The vitriol some people have for the Academy is disgusting. Also, notice how those who liked the ceremony will describe why, but those who did not will barely get one sentence out other than “it was terrible and embarrassing!”
    Being negative is so much easier.

  106. T. Holly says:

    Is “IHeartThatCurtis!” really Nikki Finke addressing Kim Voynar at February 23, 2009 09:32 AM? Only she would be enough inside baseball to try spinning the impersonation vs. performance bullshit. You have it backwards lady. Rourke was impersonating, Penn was performing. Jerk!

  107. leahnz says:

    well, i agree that the ‘5 past winners as presenters’ gag was embarrassing, and i’ll explain why (again):
    the praise felt scripted, forced and stilted in most cases, downright gushy and gag-inducing in others. i was embarrassed for the nominee having to sit there trying to come up with a suitable facial expression between ‘fuck, i really AM awesome’, simpering humility and trying to hide their embarrassment (rdj’s ever so slightly bemused expression was the best).
    i felt embarrassed for the presenters having to sincerely deliver obviously scripted lines they didn’t necessarily feel, the presenters having been assigned a nominee. some of it rang horribly false (kidman to jolie), occasionally it worked (macclain’s tribute to hathaway was lovely), but in general it was trite, nauseating and awkward.
    secondly, like i said before and mutiny also had a go at articulating, this is the movies, a visual medium. talking about/describing something when you can show/see it is a cardinal sin! standing around talking up/describing someone’s performance is ridiculous; using the same format, a good, long clip of the actor’s perf should have been shown, then the former winner could have made a brief, salient comment about said performance and the whole thing would have made some sense and without inducing a gag reflex.

  108. Kim Voynar says:

    Assuming this was from Nikki, and responding below…
    “IHeartthatCurtis” wrote:
    “K: what on earth gave you the impression that I dislike the Oscars? What on earth would ever give you that impression? I love this show, I want this show to survive, but last night was another nail in the coffin. It sucks, it’s sad, but dinosaurs went away. So should this show I guess, in a world where this type of show really is not hip or with it.
    I love the Oscars. I simply think last night represented the Academy sliding their petard in a bit deeper. It’s six percent up in the overnight, but as I learned from reputable wrestling journalist. The overnight and the final rating vast differently.”
    What on earth gave me that impression? First, if you’d read what I said, I didn’t say you “dislike the Oscars.” What I said was, “She was committed to hating it before she even turned on her tv screen.” As evidenced by the title of the post — not “Live-Blogging the Oscars” but “Live-Snarking the Oscars,” and by the intro, wherein you said, “Come for the cynicism. Stay for the subversion.” When you got down to actually posting about the Oscars themselves, we have the following:
    “Worst Academy Awards opening ever.”
    “I really feel sorry for Jackman having to perform this crapfest number.”
    “GAYEST OSCARS EVER!”
    “This is the Oscars, people, a celebration of the movie industry, not the touring company of some low-tech Off-Off-Off Broadway musical.”
    That’s just within the first couple of paragraphs. Pretty much goes downhill from there. Then we have:
    “As I already told you, the Oscars producers this year dissed last year’s actor winners …”
    … which is nothing but spin. You could have said, they decided it would be cool to have five previous winners laud each of the nominees individually rather than just showing a clip from the film, and welcome the winner into the fold,” etc. You didn’t. Or you could have just said, Gee, I didn’t care for that, I’d much rather have seen the clips. But you didn’t.
    Again and again throughout your “live-snarking” (and I’ll give you that, you did at least give your readers what you advertised you would give them by your headline) there was negative comment after negative comment. Very little positive to say about anything. Little to nothing in the way of actually proposing your own ideas for what you might have liked, or what better ways there were to do things than the things you bitched about incessantly. Just non-stop vomiting of vitriol throughout the evening. The anger and negativity grew tiresome very quickly, so I stopped reading.
    And as for this: “Oh yeah K: Sean Penn is not Ed Norton. He is not the greatest actor alive. Rourke happened to be one of the greatest actours alive at one stage of his life, and he gave an incredible performance. Only to lose to a man who gave an incredible impersonation. Rourke was robbed. If you are looking at it with any other distinction. You miss the point about how great Rourke was in the Wrestler, and how his performance will last a lot longer then the impersonation.”
    Assuming you’re referring to me again here, all I can say is, WTF? As it happens, I agree that Rourke should have won, loved him in The Wrestler, and have written quite a bit about that. I predicted that Rourke would take Best Actor, but was wrong on that one, so it goes. I’m not unhappy that Penn won, but would have preferred it go to Rourke this year.

  109. Kim Voynar says:

    leahnz wrote: “well, i agree that the ‘5 past winners as presenters’ gag was embarrassing, and i’ll explain why (again):”
    Leah, thanks for offering a thorough explanation and some ideas around what you would have preferred to have seen. Generally, I agree with you on the clips, but I did kind of like the departure from the norm last night with the tributes, although I agree that some were more awkward than others and that the scripting didn’t work well for all of them. Not sure I’d want to see that every year, but I didn’t mind it terribly last night, overall.

  110. leahnz says:

    ‘iheartcurtis’ is io’s new moniker, kim

  111. leahnz says:

    oops, i pushed post instead of preview…
    meant to add to the above: …so don’t take it too much to heart, if you know what i mean

  112. Kim Voynar says:

    Leah wrote: ‘iheartcurtis’ is io’s new moniker, kim
    Oops, sorry IO … didn’t mean to insult you there for confusing you with Nikki.

  113. T. Holly says:

    What proof do you have Leah that Heart is IO’s moniker? Nikki’s used to be something like Kisses.

  114. leahnz says:

    because io changed his moniker mid-argument yesterday, an event which several poster here witnessed (me, jeff, scoot, kam perhaps?) and can testify to in court

  115. leahnz says:

    it might have day before yesterday, actually, since i brought up testifying in court

  116. T. Holly says:

    IO being confused with Nikki would be a promotion for him.

  117. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    This from the guy who has no idea how acting works, and twitters through a movie he pays to see. Mr. Twitter gets the gas face.

  118. Just to touch on anghus’s comment that most film writers these days have aspirations to be on the creative side of things….
    My short doc DRAG KING is playing at the Beverly Hills Shorts Film festival this Saturday, February 28 at 2:30 p.m.
    http://www.beverlyhillsshortsfestival.com/
    I’ll be there and would love to meet some of you. I know Lex won’t come but maybe jeffy mac and THX 15152521 will. Anyone else is welcome and I plan on going to Hooters afterwards and will buy beers if you come say hi.
    Also, if you live in the Bay Area my film is at Cinequest and I’ll be at all my screenings except the March 4 one. The beer offer stands there as well.
    This concludes my self agrandizing/self promotion post cleverly camoflauged as a response to an earlier post. You should all take note of my sneakiness and brilliance.

  119. IHeartThatCurtis! says:

    Kim: I will refer to Kamel as K for now on. Why? I hate the spellchecker wigging out when I type Kamel. Also, K, I explained why I disliked it three times as did Lex, Mutiny, and everyone else. If you chose to not accept our explanations. What more do you want from us?
    Also, people, go to the Spoonyexperiment.com. How on earth would you think NIKKI FINKE would reference the great Noah Antwiler? Seriously; you need to stop the hating on poor Nikki. He monkey just ripped the face off of someone. She’s distressed!

  120. Ack! Now my typepad is acting up…months after everyone elses! BOoooo.

  121. Did IO really compare Sean Penn to Ed Norton in the derogatory? Wow. Okay. Have fun with that.
    And yes I did witness IO’s transformation from binary code to whatever it is his name means now (i know you explained it, but I didn’t care). It was breathtaking, really.

  122. leahnz says:

    lol, kam. something to do with that spoony thing

  123. yancyskancy says:

    So T. Holly missed IO’s name change to IHeartThatCurtis, Kim mistook IO/Curtis for Nikki and assumed that “K” referred to her when really IO was just too lazy to type “Kamel,” which is a condensation of KamikazeCamelv2.0. Does that about cover it?

  124. yancyskancy says:

    christian: A different montage was originally done for the Jerry Lewis segment, but it was replaced late in the game by the piece that aired. I have inside info on this (oooh, I feel like Nikki Finke!) and will probably get to see the original version soon. I’ll be stunned if the replacement comes off as an improvement.

  125. LexG says:

    ANYONE have any porn contacts?
    I want to act in porn films now.
    MAKE IT HAPPEN.
    That’s not a fucking request. It’s a goddamn ORDER.

  126. LexG says:

    “BEST OSCAR SHOW… EVER…”
    YEAH, if you’re a FUCKING DOUCHE.
    They should just have 25 of the world’s HOTTEST ACTRESS go onstage greased up and GRIND THEIR SQUACKS TOGETHER in a fucking LESBO ORGY.
    FUCK YEAH.
    FUCK YEAH.
    You LYING LIAR MOTHERFUCKERS, all PC and LIMP DICKED.
    BE A FUCKING GOD.
    PUSSY FUCKING OWNS, when I get FAMOUS I’ma fuck CHICKS 23 HOURS A DAY and that 24th hour I’ma down more fucking YAYO than Scarface on “I JUST SHOT STEVE BAUER” Bender.
    FUCK YEAH. FUCK YEAAAAAAAAH.
    KEEP TRYING TO DENY HOW FUCKING FUNNY MY SHIT IS.

  127. LexG says:

    K-STEW FOR LIFE.
    BOW DOWN.

  128. T. Holly says:

    I assumed K was for Kim Voynar because it came right after Kim’s comment and addressed what she just said, so shoot me.
    But Kim darling, why you want Mickey? There are comebacks and then there are comebacks. Months ago, a producer at the Studio said to me, “Mickey was great, but where can he go with that face?” The history of the comeback is serious study, to wit
    http://tinyurl.com/c9gum3

  129. christian says:

    Wow. Thanks for that, yancy. Please let us know what it looks like. My feeling is if you’re getting Jerry Lewis up there, milk it baby!

  130. christian says:

    Lex, I think you’re onto something. You could be the 21st century Ron Jeremy. You’re in the valley anyway…

  131. Not David Bordwell says:

    Lex is a 21st century Joe Gideon. The Hot Blog is his All That Jazz.

  132. mutinyco says:

    “Do you suppose Stanley Kubrick ever gets depressed?”

  133. leahnz says:

    low blow to joe, who at least got some

  134. Lota says:

    about a third of the way up there Anghus…yes I agree with just about everything you said. I would try to see all that is positive about the entertainment industry since there is no point in being negative, even though some aspects are highly annoying, frustrating and financially wasteful. Ditto on Lex and n.m.
    The Oscar show…well I just loved that stage, and the opening number made me laugh my ass off. i suppose the mood of frivolity appreciation was helped by seeing the Oscars with professional tranny entertainers and male prostitutes at their Oscar party (the only female allowed). They are all in love with Jackman. I love Jackman too. Hubba hubba.
    Anyway…I think the Supp & best acting awards bit was nice, even though it seems cultish that a half-circle of former Winners would edge into the light and begin a praising chant of a nominee! But still–both male and female nominees had tears in their eyes. It means alot to have a Winner say you are significant.
    Anyway Leahnz, the dis to enzed happened when Jackman was mentioning that he was in a movie called Australia, and I think he referred to possibly being down-sized and appearing in a movie called enzed…or am I dreaming that…maybe too many martinis with vodka-soaked pears. Of course he didn;t say enzed…he said it right and proper so the Dis could not be missed.
    Peace to Mickey and hope he will continue to get good film roles, I was disappointed for him, but Penn…as much as he gets on my nerves…he sure was amazing in Milk. I forgot he was Sean penn.
    Jackman should do it again, but wouldn;t mind Tina Fey either.

  135. leahnz says:

    ‘Anyway Leahnz, the dis to enzed happened when Jackman was mentioning that he was in a movie called Australia, and I think he referred to possibly being down-sized and appearing in a movie called enzed…or am I dreaming that…maybe too many martinis with vodka-soaked pears. Of course he didn;t say enzed…he said it right and proper so the Dis could not be missed.’
    well, i never! actually, in that case, jackman stole my joke, i made a similar crack here ages ago. i want royalties! (martinis with vodka-soaked pears…paradise on earth! and ditto on fey)

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon