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Box Office Hell – 2/24/09

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35 Responses to “Box Office Hell – 2/24/09”

  1. Joe Leydon says:

    I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Obsessed exceeds the high-end estimates.

  2. Direwolf says:

    I’d almost go see Obsessed just to see Stringer Bell, I mean Idris Elba. Just loved The Wire. I’ve always wondered why he has not become a leading man.
    Not sure how many theaters it is in but if it is wide I’d think Earth could surprise to the top end of these estimates.

  3. LexG says:

    Different is, Springer Bell would work that Beyonce-Larter scuffle into a three-way somehow, whereas in this movie Elba seems all PUT OUT by having those two FIGHTING OVER HIM.
    Kinda like when Eric Bana reacted to the Portman/Johansson catfight attention in Boleyn Girl with all the enthusiasm of a guy who just got a Jury Summons.
    Anyway, that thing’s going to be pretty huge, as it would seem to fit within this year’s non-trend of meat-and-potatoes, exactly-what’s-advertised B-flicks delivering with audiences.
    With all the catfights and bitchy lines promised in the trailers, I’m wondering if it’s not destined to become some sort of Single White Female/Mommie Dearest gay-camp classic.

  4. When I was in America there were posters/billboards EVERYWHERE for Obsessed and it looks HILARIOUS. I was actually saying just a month or so ago to my partner as we were sitting down for the evening and didn’t know what to watch that “I really feel like watching a movie in which a man has an affair and then breaks it off which causes the woman he had the affair with to stalk him and terrorise his wife.”

  5. Hallick says:

    Jesus, are there really people dying to see a movie whose plot was overkilling ubiquity in the straight to video T&A shelves across america a decade or so ago? The plotline could not look more dull and predictable than they’ve made it look in the ads. Are there any tweaks to this creaky old story?
    And if it isn’t PG-13 already, it probably might as well be. Fatal Attraction’s 20+ years in the past, but the movies just keep getting more sanitized.

  6. LexG says:

    ^^ Your honor, Counsel rests. ^^
    But seriously, between gay guys and their female friends, teen girls who like PG-13 “chick” suspense, date night couples, Beyonce fans of all ages, and African-American women going in large groups, “Obsessed” is like a multi-quadrant smash waiting to happen.
    Sadly the key demo left out is, strangely, males. As I’ve said hundreds of times, no matter what they’ll say on message boards, straight guys generally don’t go to movies based on the opportunity to ogle beautiful women.

  7. Oh god I’m not going to pay money to see this at the cinema. God no. It probably won’t even be released here for a good long time (and maybe will just go direct-to-DVD depending on how well it goes in America).
    But it’ll make a perfect movie to watch on a cold wintry night with a bowl of popcorn and a heavy dose of “sense of humour”.
    Interesting that Earth has already made, like, $6mil. Should easily become one the highest grossing docos ever (and it already has $80mil from overseas – it was released here aaages ago). Pretty good for what is a condensed version of a made for television documentary series.

  8. LYT says:

    Obsessed is opening this weekend? Did it screen for any press?
    Looks like a Tyler Perry movie without (one hopes) the obligatory end sermon.

  9. No it didn’t (according to IMDb).

  10. Hallick says:

    “As I’ve said hundreds of times, no matter what they’ll say on message boards, straight guys generally don’t go to movies based on the opportunity to ogle beautiful women.”
    I dunno. The success of “Basic Instinct” and a few other films was built on that resource to a great degree. But with “Obsessed” there isn’t even the promise of ogle-worthy views. If a girl even takes her top off in this movie, I betcha the bra stays on, because that’s par for the course most of the time lately, sex in a bra (of course – because what’s more passionate and comfortable than that when you’re getting it on?).
    Oh and one more thing: every four hours in this county THIS MOVIE IS ON THE LIFETIME NETWORK.

  11. Hallick says:

    AND this country!

  12. christian says:

    I swear I saw this billboard for the first time today in Long Beach (don’t ask) and thought, “Looks like an indie filmmaker bought himself a billboard for a straight to dvd thriller…”

  13. LYT says:

    Did anyone but me like The Informers? Flick has total contempt for all its characters, but I found it pretty funny. Plus Amber Heard is naked for like the whole movie.
    I’ve no idea why the poster apparently depicts a plaster mannequin. Makes it look like bad sci-fi, rather than Bret Easton Ellis bitching about the shallowness of the ’80s yet again.

  14. LexG says:

    Lou: HOLY SHIT in addition to Amber Heard, the CINGULAR UMBRELLA GIRL (best commercial ever) is in The Informers?
    How big is her part? Does she have an umbrella?
    I was gonna take some of you guys to task for being somehow unaware that Obsessed was dropping this week, since the TV spots run every 45 seconds and I’ve seen the trailer about a half dozen times.
    But on that tip, I had no idea THE INFORMERS was any kind of WIDE RELEASE. I thought that was something that was dropping at maybe the Nuart or like a handful of Laemmle’s arthouses. Come to find out it’s in like every multiplex in the country… Isn’t it kind of kinky/edgy/druggy for a such a huge mass opening? Until they started running ads for it during TMZ this week, I’d barely heard of it.

  15. LYT says:

    Yep, she does have a big part, as Mickey Rourke’s skanky, drugged-out, underage girlfriend. No umbrella.

  16. LexG says:

    One. Ticket. Sold.
    This is the BEST WEEKEND OF MOVIES EVER!!! I don’t even know what to see first. Shit, Dave and others can write off the “off season” all they want but:
    1) Beyonce being hot
    2) Mickey Rourke paired with CINGULAR UMBRELLA GIRL
    3) Channing Tatum vs. Tavon from the Shield
    4) Mike Tyson being awesome
    …all beats the LIVING FUCK out of most weeks of the summer, when we get:
    1) One budget-pinching Canadian-shot B-tier superhero movie or animated Pixar movie
    2) One antifeminist bullshit romcom or Apatow movie
    …every single boring weekend.

  17. Joe Leydon says:

    Excuse me, but you guys are missing why Obsessed will rake in the big bucks this weekend. This is a movie about a beautiful and empowered African-American lady kicking the ass of some Ofay Bitch who tries to grab her man. This has nothing to do with Fatal Attraction. This has everything to do with one of the dirty little secrets about race relations in this country: A lot of black women are seriously pissed about their men being so eager to fuck white women. And if you doubt this, trust me, you haven’t talked with some of the black ladies I know.

  18. Wrecktum says:

    Leydon’s just keepin it real.

  19. tfresca says:

    I wasn’t aware the movie was tracking that well. The trailer is horribly cut and makes it look like direct to video schlock. It very well may be but the trailer didn’t help matters.

  20. Hallick says:

    “This is a movie about a beautiful and empowered African-American lady kicking the ass of some Ofay Bitch who tries to grab her man.”
    If she’s so empowered, why’s she fighting for an Ofay poontang chasing doofus?
    “This has everything to do with one of the dirty little secrets about race relations in this country: A lot of black women are seriously pissed about their men being so eager to fuck white women.”
    Pssst, Joe…don’t tell anybody this…it’s just between you and me…there’s a movie…it’s called “Jungle Fever”…and it’s trying to get that secret OUT. It’s just like that 9/11 doc “Loose Change”. But get this: it was made in 1991! The man’s been keepin’ it down for 18 years!
    If only there was an empowered African American lady with her own top-rated daytime talk show who could do this topic out in the open and bring the dirty little secret to light…

  21. the keoki says:

    the early estimates have Obsessed with 10 mil on friday. 23 mil for the weekend. now on monday someone will say that Beyonce can open a movie…. yikes!

  22. Joe Leydon says:

    Hallick: Well, you knew about it, and I knew about it, but obviously it’s been a secret to some of the other people who post here. The first time I saw a trailer for this movie — months ago — my first thought wasn’t “direct to DVD” or “Fatal Attraction rip-off.” My first thought was: KA-CHING!!!

  23. the keoki says:

    seems like every week a new and crappier movie makes over 20mil and is number 1! when will it end?

  24. Joe Leydon says:

    Keoki: Hey, it’s her second-highest opening to date, behind Austin Powers in Goldmember.

  25. movieman says:

    …didn’t you want to add an exclamation point to the end of that sentence, Joe, lol?
    but seriously.
    I dug “fighting” (tatum unquestionably has “it,” and Howard gives a wonderfully eccentric performance), but it did feel a tad compromised by the strictures of a PG-13 rating…
    which, i suppose, puts it in the same league as 50% or more of the PG-13 movies released today.
    what I liked most about “F” was how it shares the same overriding daddy issues of Montiel’s autobiographical “A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints.”
    a “personal” exploitation movie?
    cool. we don’t see nearly enough of them these days.
    speaking of classy-looking B movies, did anyone else experience the same nostalgic warm-and-fuzzies that I did while watching the “Armored” trailer?
    except for the unfortunate bout of pyrothecnics at the end, it looked like something Jonathan Kaplan or a pre-“Halloween” John Carpenter could have made back in the mid-’70s: a lean, mean genre machine.
    Dillon, Fishburne, Reno: pretty nifty cast, too.
    Speaking of Kaplan: I’m surprised that nobody has announced a remake of “White Line Fever” yet.
    Now that was a classic ’70s drive-in movie!

  26. the keoki says:

    well played Joe… we should sign her up for Wonder Woman right now… make Cheetah a white girl going after Steve and bam we have a hit!

  27. Joe Leydon says:

    Keoki: if I were you, I’d have that treatment registered with WGA pronto.

  28. leahnz says:

    movieman, i like the look of ‘armored’, i’m a huge sucker for heist movies and the cast looks cool (and could this be the return of ‘the skeet’ to the big leagues? skeet!) but it would appear the trailer may have given away the ‘twist’, i wish they wouldn’t do that

  29. Joe Leydon says:

    Best ’70s-style action movie of recent years: Four Brothers. Hope Armored is that good.

  30. Joe Leydon says:

    Best ’70s-style action movie of recent years: Four Brothers. Hope Armored is that good.

  31. Joe Leydon says:

    Sorry about the double post.

  32. movieman says:

    ..meant to say “pyrotechnics;” guess I should have previewed before posting to avoid typos.
    Yeah, “Armored” looks like fun, Leah, but I’m sure that I’ll be plenty sick of the (admittedly terrific) trailer well before the movie opens this fall.
    Big “Four Brothers” fan, too, Joe.
    Am I having a brain fart, or was that Singleton’s last film? I’ve always liked him better when he gets his hands dirty in low-down genre fare (“Brothers,” the second “F&F,” even “Shaft” with its delicious Jeffrey Wright performance) than while delivering message-mongering screeds (“Higher Learning,” “Poetic Justice,” “Rosewood”).

  33. the keoki says:

    oddly enough Joe, they said that was the exact treatment of Whedon’s unfilmed version… weird.

  34. Joe Leydon says:

    Great minds think alike?

  35. the keoki says:

    i remember right after Goldmember, Beyonce was the It Crossover girl… and then Dreamgirls but now this? Yikes. I was just reading McWeeney’s column from yeterday where he said that Obssessed was originally titled No She Didn’t…. one word AWESOME!

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
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“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

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