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BYOB Weekend

It’s a rainy day in NYC… so much for the debuts of the new stadia!
But wait! The Mets game started anyway… 3-1 over the Red Sox with 1 on and 2 outs.
A lovely, busy, wet day…

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48 Responses to “BYOB Weekend”

  1. LexG says:

    Re: Mutinyco’s Nightmare clip:
    You know, I’m a pretty huge Craven fan, was always really into the Freddy series growing up, like the character, think it’s inventive…
    But I never thought the first Elm St. was one of Craven’s better movies. It’s a great concept, but I think some of the sequels handled the material better. Certainly Last House and Hills Have Eyes are more primal and unsettling.
    This is blasphemous, but I always kind of thought “Shocker” was a better-made version of the same material.
    The original Nightmare is hampered at turns by kind of pedestrian presentation. In particular, I’m thinking of one screenwriting bit of business that isn’t believable at ALL, which is that the whole whitebread suburban town rose up and burned Freddy to death.
    And that kind of thing is totally part of Craven’s usual thematic MO, but as presented in the mom’s unconvincing speech, I was never really sold that this picket fence community was composed of folks who turned into bloodthirsty revenge murderers.
    Anyway, unrelated to Elm St. but as for this weekend’s box office: Anyone buying Mojo’s prediction of FAST & FURIOUS doing *43 mil*?
    I’m all over the movie, but it seems like they started early with this big, edgy, bad-ass campaign… then kinda threw in the towel as the release date approached. The early ads looked like The Bourne and the Furious. But the TV ads I saw this week just looked like the same old– I kept waiting for Ludacris to pop up.

  2. mutinyco says:

    If Jackie Earle Haley is the new Freddy, then who gets to replace Johnny Depp?…

  3. lazarus says:

    Strange to look for realistic townfolk motivation in a film about A GUY WHO CAN ENTER YOUR DREAMS AND KILL YOU.
    The problem with all the Elm Street sequels is that, after the first one, Freddy has become the defacto protagonist, and you’re essentially rooting for him to kill everyone. In short, they’re not scary, when the first one was actually effective in that regard.

  4. jeffmcm says:

    I agree with the above, except that Dream Warriors gets past the problems by making Freddy fearsome again, and by giving us a solid group of protagonists.

  5. leahnz says:

    never mind glen, who’s a supporting player at best, who will take on the crucial role of nancy? she and freddy are the key players in the original ‘elm street’ (tho ‘platinum dunes’ can take a long walk off a short pier as far as i’m concerned; three bozos without an original thought between them, whose primary purpose is to stand on the shoulders of giants who came before them and ‘re-boot’ their classic visions with all the freshness of a fly-infested long-drop)

  6. Cadavra says:

    Ho. Lee. Shit.
    Nikki sez FAST & FURIOUS did $28 million on Friday, looking to $65 million FSS, besting the previous April high by 50% ($42 mill for ANGER MANAGEMENT). How can this be possible? Is there really still that big an audience for car crashes?

  7. scooterzz says:

    i’m looking forward to a remake of ‘nightmare’ because i’m reallllllly hoping it’ll lead to a remake of ‘nightmare 2’…….

  8. leahnz says:

    why for, scoot? what’s your dealio with ‘nightmare II’? (please don’t say your a silent partner in ‘plat dunes’, i don’t think my heart could take it!)

  9. Hallick says:

    “Strange to look for realistic townfolk motivation in a film about A GUY WHO CAN ENTER YOUR DREAMS AND KILL YOU.”
    Not really. If you can’t get a good ghost story going by the campfire ’cause the cub scouts are thinking “aw, bullshit!” before you even get to the ghost, its an issue. The crazier the premise, the more you gotta root your set-up in reality.

  10. scooterzz says:

    leah — ‘nightmare 2’ stands out from the rest because of it’s overt…um…lavender bent…. truly one of the gayest mainstream movies of the era….from mark patton’s little levi short-shorts (and ubiquitous underware scenes)to the s-m leather athletic coach shower scene….
    i have the boxed-set of all the ‘nightmare’ movies and while 2 doesn’t have commentary, all of the subsequent ones that do refer to 2 as ‘the gay nightmare’…(omg…i just remembered patton being caught by his mom disco lip-synching/dancing while cleaning his room)….and that is my fascination with 2…..

  11. LYT says:

    Nightmare 2 is an allegory for repressed homosexuality…or at least a lot more entertaining when you look at it that way.
    Director Jack Sholder swears this was not intentional.

  12. scooterzz says:

    sholder was being disingenuous (at best)…

  13. jeffmcm says:

    It would be great to see a real gay horror movie that was pitched above the level of the David DeCoteau crapfests of The Brotherhood or Leeches!. But I certainly don’t have any faith in Platinum Dunes to do something like that, because Leah’s analysis above was completely accurate: they’re unimaginative corpse-feeding jackals.
    At least Rob Zombie’s Halloween remake had some life to it, which can’t be said about the Nispel rehashes of Texas Chainsaw or Friday the 13th.
    And now I have to go before David tires of me.

  14. scooterzz says:

    i actually get a little kick out of decoteau’s crapfests….
    that’s not to say i’ll sit through a whole feature but i do appreciate his eye…..

  15. leahnz says:

    alrighty then, i must get my hands on a copy of ‘nightmare 2’ for a fresh look, i’m pretty sure i haven’t seen it since back in the olden days (my teens)

  16. leahnz says:

    thinking about the original ‘nightmare on elm street’, what makes it stand apart from the sequels for me is how craven actually managed to tap into our innate fascination and fear of our own dreams to drive the story. the mysterious dream realm, the un-explorable frontier: another world/dimension within each and every person’s psyche that we visit on a nightly basis, separated from waking life only by the thin veil of sleep, a bizarre construct of the subconscious as vivid as waking life but in which we are seemingly helpless, at the whim of some unseen/unknown dream-master within our own minds, but over whom we have no control. this is the mystery craven tapped into. what are dreams? why do we go there relentlessly? nobody knows, and we may never know (the doctor says something to this effect to nancy in one scene)
    i remember reading that craven got the idea for ‘nightmare on elm street’ after hearing about a spate of people who had died mysteriously in their sleep with no apparent cause, and this got him to thinking, ‘what if something could kill us in our dreams?’. freddy is that monster lurking in the subconscious mind: fear of the boogieman, fear of the unknown; the bad deed pushed deep down, hidden away but never completely forgotten; that vague beast always chasing us in the dark that never quite catches us but that we can never seem to escape altogether.
    (but that’s the first movie; freddy increasingly becomes a wise-cracking ott parody of himself, a shame, really. at the very least, haley should have an interesting new take on the horrific freddy k)

  17. leahnz says:

    thinking about the original ‘nightmare on elm street’, what makes it stand apart from the sequels for me is how craven actually managed to tap into our innate fascination and fear of our own dreams to drive the story. the mysterious dream realm, the un-explorable frontier: another world/dimension within each and every person’s psyche that we visit on a nightly basis, separated from waking life only by the thin veil of sleep, a bizarre construct of the subconscious as vivid as waking life but in which we are seemingly helpless, at the whim of some unseen/unknown dream-master within our own minds, but over whom we have no control. this is the mystery craven tapped into. what are dreams? why do we go there relentlessly? nobody knows, and we may never know (the doctor says something to this effect to nancy in one scene)
    i remember reading that craven got the idea for ‘nightmare on elm street’ after hearing about a spate of people who had died mysteriously in their sleep with no apparent cause, and this got him to thinking, ‘what if something could kill us in our dreams?’. freddy is that monster lurking in the subconscious mind: fear of the boogieman, fear of the unknown; the bad deed pushed deep down, hidden away but never completely forgotten; that vague beast always chasing us in the dark that never quite catches us but that we can never seem to escape altogether.
    (but that’s the first movie; freddy increasingly becomes a wise-cracking ott parody of himself, a shame, really. at the very least, haley should have an interesting new take on the horrific freddy k)

  18. leahnz says:

    i did not!

  19. doug r says:

    Back to Fast “&” Furious. I agree with Lex about the first trailers, that foot chase was cool, especially the bounce off the fence.
    The new trailers look like the same old shit. I am really tired of the obvious-CGI-truck-rolls-hero-times-his-car-to-zoom-underneath-unscratched-trick.
    I forgave it in Die Hard 4.0 because there were two other cars to support the weight-but bouncing objects DO NOT bounce higher after the first bounce AND rolling irregular shaped objects quickly lose their forward momentum.
    I know there is going to be a Mythbusters episode on this someday….

  20. SJRubinstein says:

    As someone who grew up as the one Jason-fanatic in an elementary school full of Freddy fans, I have to admit, even I think Haley is just the greatest casting ever. But having just caught part of “Stay Hungry” on cable, I do wonder if Englund would have any kind of career advice for Haley on the pros and cons of what acting life was before and after playing a character that’s about as iconic as Dracula (hell, Lugosi had plenty of thoughts on what happened with his career, pluses and minuses).

  21. a_loco says:

    Box Office Mojo has F & F at over $30 million for Friday, which means that I might go see it this week, as I have been known to think 2 Fast 2 Furious was AWESOME. Sorry, Adventureland.

  22. christian says:

    The original NOES is still the best and for the reasons others have mentioned. Craven is a genius at tapping into primal fears and his raw style is far more effective at conveying dread and horror. Funny that even his first film LHOTL has a dream sequence! The films got less interesting once Freddy became the comic anti-hero.
    And yes, on opening night of NOES 2 I thought, “Wow, way gay. Who let this slip through?”

  23. LexG says:

    F&F did *30 mil* in one day?
    Holy shit, guess that explains why my matinee was so insanely crowded. Yeah, I rolled in expecting the usual 10 people scattered on various ends of the theater… imagine my annoyed surprised when I had to actually, like, sit by people and shit.
    I don’t even know that I can say I “saw” it. Instead, I just happened to sit in a theater seat while the movie was incidentally playing for two hours.
    ‘Cause most of my attention was unfortunately occupied by the 298 Asiarmeniamexipino kids in the house, all under 15 years old, shuffling around the aisles and throwing shit at each other and moving seats and yelling shit on their 237th trip to get their ICEE refilled.
    Also, is there a rule in Los Angeles that every teenager HAS to wear a BLACK HOODED SWEAT JACKET at all times? With the 1976 hair, of course. I know the EMO thing is in, but is there anything more square than 100% of the teen population dressing exactly the fucking same?
    Anyway, there were exactly TWO people over the age of 18 in the entire theater, just me and the ever popular TWITCHY MIDDLE AGED GUY who GOES TO THE MATINEE ALONE yet still TALKS TO HIMSELF and HAS RESTLESS LEG. At some point, this weird motherfucker just started OWNING all the kids, swearing like a PSYCHO and RANTING for them to shut the fuck up, which only seemed to make matters worse.
    So beforewarned. Fuck, maybe I should get a plane ticket to Iowa for when CRANK: HIGH VOLTAGE opens.

  24. Martin S says:

    Lex – if you put that to story to some crude animation and narrated it, that would be pretty damn funny.

  25. leahnz says:

    ‘Anyway, there were exactly TWO people over the age of 18 in the entire theater, just me and the ever popular TWITCHY MIDDLE AGED GUY who GOES TO THE MATINEE ALONE yet still TALKS TO HIMSELF and HAS RESTLESS LEG. At some point, this weird motherfucker just started OWNING all the kids, swearing like a PSYCHO and RANTING for them to shut the fuck up, which only seemed to make matters worse.’
    hey lex luthor, are you sure you weren’t by chance sitting near a shiny, reflective surface in the cinema? you’ve just sorta described yourself:
    * middle-aged (don’t know about twitchy but you’re one restless dude so i could see it) – check
    * goes to the matinee alone – check
    * talks to himself (lord knows we’ve seen you do that enough times around here) – check
    * weird motherfucker – check
    * ‘owning’ people, swearing like a psycho and ranting (and possibly making matters worse) – check
    the checklist has spoken, you were alone with all those spastic teens and it’s driven you schizoid

  26. Hallick says:

    Geez, all I had in my “Fast and Furious” theater was a dink sitting in front of me, cranking out War & Peace on his million candle power IPhone right as the Regal Cinemas roller coaster film was ending (note to Regal Cinemas – stop it! Quit wasting an entire minute of my time with your circa 1988 paen to popcorn and garbage cans!).
    So I just leaned forward and laid my chin down on his shoulder so I could read while he typed.
    Stopped him right quick! I didn’t even get time to make fun of his message!

  27. LexG says:

    Hey unrelated to the AWESOME Fast and Furious:
    I can’t remember now because I unfairly ignored it when it was in theaters, but what were people’s reactions to SYNECHDOCHE, NEW YORK???
    I found the first 45-60 minutes so off-putting I turned it off once, then started from scratch a second time and finished it in one sitting. I can’t decide if it’s totally irritating abd indulgent all the way through…. or just in a few spurts while the rest is kind of awesome. But it ultimately packs kind of a wallop and I was sobbing like a little girl through the last half-hour.
    How did Samantha Morton not get ANY Oscar talk for that????? For that matter, what that sad jazz song an original? Since Kaufman has a writing credit on it (plays twice in the movie and over the end credits), I’ll assume it is; How was THAT not an Oscar nominee but that irritating JAI HO bullshit was?
    Plus always good to see Tom Noonan used well. I guess I rather liked it, especially the second hour.

  28. jeffmcm says:

    I think it was the third-best film of last year. It’s definitely ‘indulgent’ but in a good way.
    And yeah, Morton was robbed.

  29. LexG says:

    Okay, NO ONE will care, but since there ARE some 36 year olds and we’re talking about NOES from *1984* and such…
    So, HOT DOG… THE MOVIE is on one of the pay services right now. I remember this from way, way back in the day where I’d sneak-tape these things on SLP VHS and furiously forward thru them the following Saturday am looking for boobs: Where the Boys Are ’84, Hot Resort, Last Resort, Spring Break, Lovelines, Going All the Way, Tomboy, Up the Creek, even the similiarly titled HAMBURGER: The Motion Picture.
    But somehow I’d never seen HOT DOG. Like, what the FUCK is this? Not only is there barely any nudity, the last HALF HOUR is all SKI RACE footage. I realize these were all made as kind of “real” movies with plots and one semi-recognizable star (here David Naughton).
    But why would ANY group of rowdy 1984 dudes have sat thru this thing? IT’S A SKI MOVIE.
    EPIC FAIL. SHAME ON YOU, DR. PEPPER MAN.

  30. leahnz says:

    oh man, does anyone remember that late 70’s tv series called ‘makin’ it’ starring david naughton as a disco dancer? he played baducci, or manducci, or something like that, this ‘saturday night fever’-obsessed disco dude, i don’t think it was on for long as it was just hilariously bad, but i had big crush on naughton from that show, which further intensified with ‘american werewolf in london’. oh well, lex’s mention of naughton brought it all back to me, quite embarrassing

  31. LexG says:

    Whoa, who asked about SUMMER LOVERS recently? Movieman or Scooterzz?
    Apparently FLIX has scheduled the Lex 1984 evening of awesomeness… Hot Dog led into Private Lessons, which has now led into Summer Lovers.
    If I could just get some Private Resort, Private School, or Hardbodies next, this would be the greatest night of programming ever.

  32. movieman says:

    It was me who referenced “Summer Lovers,” Lex.
    Still have the warm and fuzzies remembering that Kleiser corker. The fact that I saw it on a date that climaxed (no pun intended) with possibly the steamiest l’amour of my (then) young adult life might have something to do with it. (Having the Pointer Sisters’ “I’m So Excited” on the soundtrack didn’t hurt.)
    My b.o. prognosis has been a tad wobbly as of late, but I was right on at pegging “Adventureland” (which I really, really liked with minor reservations) as an underperformer. The $25-million ceiling I predicted a few weeks back might even be a tad generous considering that softer than anticipated opening.
    Not having been a fan of the original “F&F”–I’ve liked all of the sequels better; yes, even “Tokyo Drift”–I’m a little in awe at how well the latest entry opened. (I figured $40-$45-million perhaps, but certainly not $70-million.)
    As far as totally unnecessary sequels go, it is what it is, I suppose. No more, but thankfully no less. The best “F&F” remains #2 directed by John Singleton in one of Mr. “Boyz N the Hood”‘s rare, letting-his-hair-down-and-having-some-fun moments.
    Is next weekend’s Hannah Montana movie going to be a repeat of her 3-D concert flick phenom, or another tweener also-ran like the recent Jonas Bros. non-event? The fact that it’s opening when most of the kiddies are off school for “Easter break” should help, yes? I’m mildly intrigued since it was directed by Peter Chelsom who did one of my favorite movies of the ’90s (the sublime “Funny Bones”), even though he hasn’t done much of consequence since.

  33. mutinyco says:

    A naked American man stole my balloons!

  34. leahnz says:

    OMG lex, lmao! possibly the cheesiest theme song ever in the history of tv shows but it brings back childhood memories
    (movieman, ‘funny bones’ was just on here the other night, such an eclectic little gem, i’m also a fan’; platt is terrific as usual, and jerry lewis does a lovely dramatic turn, great stuff all round)

  35. Hallick says:

    “So, HOT DOG… THE MOVIE is on one of the pay services right now. I remember this from way, way back in the day where I’d sneak-tape these things on SLP VHS and furiously forward thru them the following Saturday am looking for boobs”
    Oh Christ, I think Lex and I might have been separated at birth. Lex, if you ever snuck out of bed after midnight when you were a kid and watched syndicated repeats of John Byner’s “Bizarre” (home of Super Dave Osbourne and random nudity) with one hand on the tv’s darkness dial and an ear out for your parents, I’m going to have a heart attack and die.
    I have nothing but fond memories of “Hot Dog…The Movie”. I can’t remember which movie I snuck out of to sneak into that one though.

  36. leahnz says:

    i totally spaced this before:
    mutiny, in honor of your bonza quote – and one of my all-time fave werewolf movies (one of my all-time fave movies full stop, actually):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6PIke8r51E

  37. Joe Leydon says:

    LexG: Hot Dog… the Movie introduced the AWESOMENESS that is SHANNON TWEED to the world! Bow before The Queen of The Made-for-Video Movies!

  38. christian says:

    Roger Ebert’s single greatest line in his TV review history: “And now we come to HOT DOG: THE MOVIE — not to be confused with the Shakespearean tragedy.”

  39. LexG says:

    Joe,
    Speaking of Shannon Tweed, I might have HOT DOG beat. I recently revisited OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN, the killer rat movie with Peter Weller from 1983.
    Because, you know, who doesn’t get into a George P. Cosmatos phase now and again? Anyway, who shows up in the first scene, totally miscast as day trader Weller’s spoiled yuppie wife? Yep, Shannon Tweed, with an “introducing” credit I believe; She gets just enough screen time to take a shower for some fleeting nudity, then is shuffled out of the remainder of the movie.
    Hallick, that’s awesome, but you can breathe easy… Wasn’t “Bizarre” on Showtime? We must have only had Cinemax and HBO, because my Byner-less sneak-viewing was restricted to the T&A comedies on HBO, and even better, the bizarre, grainy Euro-softcore that Cinemax had.
    Bums me out that SKINEMAX is now basically those cheesy comedic “Bikini” movies all with the same casts every night (“Look! Evan Stone and Nicole Sheridan!”) Back in the day they’d break out oddities like Fiona and Young Lady Chatterly and Love, Lust and Ecstacy. That shit was so sleazy and bizarre… yet someone like Adam West always seemed to pop up somewhere along the way.

  40. Hallick says:

    “Hallick, that’s awesome, but you can breathe easy… Wasn’t “Bizarre” on Showtime?”
    Yeah, but there was an independent station from Sacramento on my cable system that ran the reruns around 12:30 in the morning for a while, without any edits other than making time for the ads. I kept the darkness knob turned down low so nobody would see the light from the television under their door. Damn. THOSE were the days, Edith…

  41. hcat says:

    Loved, Loved Hot Dog the movie, I swear it made a generation want to learn to ski. There wasn’t a whole lot of nudity but the whole vibe of debauchery really helped it to rise above the usual early eighties jiggly movie. If you want more constant nudity at the expense of fun I would suggest you revisit Hardbodies, which I recall was the nakedest american movie of my youth.

  42. Cadavra says:

    “Fuck, maybe I should get a plane ticket to Iowa for when CRANK: HIGH VOLTAGE opens.”
    Lex, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Wait till the third week and you can watch the movie in peace. Of course, you won’t be able to take part in all the opening-weekend chit-chat, but that’s a small price to pay.
    BTW, you know HOT DOG’s a loser when the best thing in the movie is Danny Bonaduce as a DJ!

  43. LexG says:

    K-STEW.

  44. christian says:

    Hallick, I was there in Sacramento too.

  45. Hallick says:

    “Hallick, I was there in Sacramento too.”
    I was in Ukiah, but my cable company carried the channel, which I believe was KTXL40.
    And HOLY CRAP, there it is – somebody posted Bizarre’s “parental discretion advisory” from KTXL40 on YouTube! Seriously? God damn, YouTube is a miracle worker sometimes:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MyPn2Qd0bs

  46. Jack Culled says:

    “I agree with the above, except that Dream Warriors gets past the problems by making Freddy fearsome again, and by giving us a solid group of protagonists.”
    No offensemeant.. but what do you mean by that?

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