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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
AWAY WE GO is the first movie I’ve seen this year that made me feel something.
Oh, it’s contrived. But I cared about the characters. Deeply. Main and supporting (the Canadian couple broke my heart and uplifted my spirits at the same time).
It wasn’t until after, though, that I realized I hadn’t cared about characters on screen yet this year. That says something about Mendes’ film. But I think it says more about the shit we sit through on a weekly basis.
Up is really the only emotionally compelling movie I’ve seen this year. I’ll try to catch Away We Go in the near future, but I’m 0-3 with Sam Mendes so far.
Some thoughts on some recent trailers: Anyone catch the trailer for 2012? Got to admit, Roland Emmerich really knows how to blow the world up. Another movie where you have to check your brain at the door and just look at all the pretty explosions. And boy do they look pretty. What Bay is to action flicks, he is to disaster movies I guess.
Zombieland looks like stupid fun.
The two faces of Robin Williams can be so dramatically different. He looks at his worst in Old Dogs, and at his best in World’s Greatest Dad.
Shutter Island looks like those good B Movies that Dave is fond of talking about these days.
Really looking forward to The Boat that Rocked with P.S.Hoffman and Nick Frost.
Semi Final Note: Terminator 4 has to be in my mind one of the biggest letdowns when comparing actual movie to what I thought was a great initial trailer. I was really looking forward to this, until they blew their wad in the following trailers, and gave us an apocalyptic action movie instead of a Terminator film.
final Note: Anyone else think that Pelham 123 would have been a more interesting flick if the Denzel/Travolta roles were reversed?
For some reason, even though I loathe almost every movie that Michael Bay has made, I find myself highly entertained and pleased by the Roland Emmerich oeuvre. He’s like Bay but without as much shamelessness and pretension.
Yeah, but every frame of a Bay looks like a Bay, every scene or shot is over-the-top and sun-drenched and HUUUUGE.
Emmerich seems to blow his wad on the three or four big action setpieces, and everything in between looks “dusty,” all gray and rusty and murky with chintzy venetian blinds and too much ’80s smoke machine, with production design that looks like a Montreal soundstage.
And I say that as an Emmerich fan… but his “in between” scenes are perfunctory, where every frame of a Bay movie is infused with his jockish, bigger-is-better sensibility and AWESOME comedy skillz.
They should be perfunctory. Emmerich is, in general, smart enough not to waste our time with scenes or subplots that he knows he isn’t going to knock out of the park, as opposed to Bay, who foolishly and shamefully insists on cranking up every scene into awfulness.
If Bay would just remove every trace of so-called humor from his movies, they’d be improved 5000%.
Finally saw “Up” today. Great flick with a fun story that ventures into absurdism at times. Can you imagine the pitch? “Let’s make a movie where half the time we follow an old man and a kid who are carrying a house around South America.” That’ll sell. It’s amazing how consistent the Pixar guys are. When they finally – and inevitably – miss, all of America will go into a collective depression.
I was surprised they played the villain straight. Pixar flicks have had bad guys, but there’s always been some cartoonish element. This time, the bad guy’s a real bad guy; a total nutcase. And he falls to his death. I was not expecting that. I don’t recall anyone actually dying before in a Pixar flick. I guess Nemo’s mom, but that’s about it. And even then you don’t actually see what happens. Here the guy plummets, and there’s no masking it: he’s gonna fall through the clouds and splat.
Interesting note: During the montage of Carl and Ellie’s marriage, when we see Ellie in the hospital weeping, one kid sitting behind me asked, “What happened?” Came the reply from another kid: “She lost the baby!” From the pitch of their voices, I’d guess they were 9 or 10 year olds. Certainly struck me as evidence that children can be pretty with it. And kudos to Pixar for realizing that and going with it.
One more thing: the trailer for “G-Force” was one of the most obnoxious things I’ve seen in a long, long time. It’s enough to make me feel glad I don’t have kids that I have to take to see it. Ugh.
Just watched Let the Right One In and found it vaaaaaaaaastly overrated. Beautiful cinematography and composition are not a substitute for lack of story and wanting to prove one is superior to the Twilight crowd like so many reviewers tried to be. Too reliant on mood and not enough plot.
Also rediscovered Fame and how adult a “teen” movie like this was for the time. I now dread the remake. Where the hell is the great Alan Parker now?
saw ‘transformers2’ last night…expect to read the words ‘loud’ and ‘confusing’ a lot in reviews…
“…every frame of a Bay looks like a Bay, every scene or shot is over-the-top and sun-drenched and HUUUUGE.”
yeah, what lex said…..
Someone in another expressed surprise that GI JOE doesn’t come out till August, since the campaign for it is so relentless now. (I agree.)
Which begs the question, for me, without looking it up: What DOES come out in July? Other than Public Enemies and Harry Potter (I’m indifferent to the HP series anyway)… What ARE the big July movies? Are the last two weekends of July just TOTAL dead zones?
There are 20-30 movies a month I’m interesting in in the Poland-derided April, but this is the MONEY SEASON and there’s a whole month that seems like a dead zone.
Pixar body count (obviously spoilers) –
Kevin Spacey’s evil grasshopper murders three of his own goons, and then is eaten by a bird in A Bug’s Life.
Steve Buscemi’s monster henchman is apparently beaten to death by a stick-wielding child in Monster’s Inc (very much implied, but theoretically he may have just been knocked out by the several blows to the head).
Countless heroes are killed in The Incredibles (all offscreen, but the film out and out states that Syndrome has been bumping off old heroes for months). Several heroes die in a montage about not wearing capes. Several henchmen are blown up in the Speedy water-race sequence, and then Syndrome himself is sucked into a jet engine.
The aforementioned massacre that opens Finding Nemo (the mother and all the babies except Nemo are eaten).
And yes, two very obvious and important deaths in Up.
Forgot about Syndrome. Good catch.
Nicol: Be careful. Alan Parker obviously is a Leftie. Ever see Come See the Paradise?
Scott: “I’ll try to catch Away We Go in the near future, but I’m 0-3 with Sam Mendes so far.”
Which one are you missing?
1. American Beauty
2. Road to Perdition
3. Jarhead
4. Revolutionary Road
With #5 being the as-yet-seen-by-you Away We Go.
Nicol D,
Seriously? Are you actually suggesting that Twilight might be on the same level as Let the Right One In? I’ll admit, it wasn’t the best movie I’ve seen. But on the whole, it was very clever and given the budget and indie nature, it was light years beyond the crap that was Twilight.
For me it was all about the tone and the committment to it that made LTROI entertaining. It knew where it was going and didn’t rellent.
Twilight, on the other hand, had no coherent tone and ultimately, told no compelling story.
Neither were The Godfather, but LTROI was incredibly entertaining.
To each their own I guess.
1) I love the G-Force trailer.
2) Loud and Confusing if you are Old and Have Diminishing Senses.
3) Nicol is not the first to bring up the “Twilight is as good as Let The Right One In.” This has been going around for a while. Leave it to a right-wing Canuck to bring it up here.
4) TMJ: they do not care about you, and what a bogus fucking response. If it’s true in any freakin way. Wow. Just… wow.
5) Liking Roland over Michael is akin to liking Tab over Fresca.
I think Nicol is saying that Twilight and Let the Right One In are on the same level, but not because Twilight is as good as LTROI. He’s saying (so I infer) that they’re on the same level because LTROI isn’t any better than Twilight. But the small, indie, foreign pic got a pass because it was cool and stylish and played to critics’ biases, whereas it was easy to dismiss the adaptation of a novel whose writing even many of its most ardent fans find atrocious.
“Really looking forward to The Boat that Rocked with P.S.Hoffman and Nick Frost.”
Why?
Also, the 2012 trailer makes my brain fall out, but in an incredible way.
What Nicol said was that Let the Right One In had a “lack of story”, which is complete bullshit. Young boy who has yet to process/get over his parents’ divorce befriends young girl who happens to be vampire and defends him against school bullies. That’s not including the subplot about the vampire’s own issues with her guardian.
Shut the fuck up NIcol. If he thinks the film is getting a free pass because it’s foreign, I think it’s getting shit on by him for the same reason. Twilight has nothing to say about nothing. Let the Right One In says a lot about childhood and adolescence, simply using the vampire element as a metaphor.
I’m not calling it the best film of last year, but pretty much as good as genre film gets in terms of depth.
I love that Nicol claims himself to be an old-school horror fan. But when he says something like the above, it kind of reaffirms my long-standing notion that there’s a piece of his brain that fell out.
There’s definitely an argument/discussion to be had between the two movies, but it would have to begin with the blatantly obvious fact that Twilight is shallow and vague while LTROI is, at the very least, weird and clever.
“wanting to prove one is superior to the Twilight crowd like so many reviewers tried to be.”
Considering Let the Right One In came out before Twilight, I’m not sure how that works.
Correction:
There’s definitely an argument/discussion to be had between the two movies, but it would have to begin with the blatantly obvious fact that Twilight HAS KRISTEN STEWART, while LTROI is, at the very least, weird and clever.
Also, I saw it (Let…) on DVD before word of that translation snafu dropped, and also wondered what the big deal was. If Nicol saw the same version, I’d cut him some slack because the dialogue was so vague it rendered the plotting, such as it was, completely arcane, cold, and uninvolving.
Also, “I did the research” (TM Cruise), and other than Depp and Potter, July is apparently 29 days of Borat, Apatow, and Katherine Heigl all mugging it up in comedies.
HOW did no one stake a weekend in the back end of next month to drop some giant “2012” style megapic??? There’s like three straight weekends where it’s all sitcoms.
More pressingly, why didn’t Summit drop Hurt Locker smack in the middle of all that chick-flick bullshit instead of THE SAME WEEKEND AS A MILITARISTIC BAY BLOCKBUSTER?
10,000 BC is bad and pretty indefensible on every level. It’s a Sci-Fi Channel original with a bigger budget but comparable writing and acting. I’ve seen better Sci Fi originals. The Day After Tomorrow is cool for about 45 minutes, but it didn’t do much for me after that. If I remember correctly nearly all of the trailer’s great effects shots are in the first half of the movie, which was a letdown. The journey to save the family member wasn’t nearly as interesting as the destruction. With 2012, which at least has a pretty good cast, it appears that Emmerich is spreading out the destruction a little more, though the trailer seems to give away the entire movie. I wonder about the November release date.
Caught “Year One” at a matinee yesterday and was pleasantly surprised.
I hadn’t expected the droll and witty tone, or the Hope-and-Crosby road movie spirit. The cast is a hoot (loved Hank Azaria: was he doing George C. Scott from Huston’s “The Bible”?), and overall I found it more consistently amusing–and with less dead spots–than “History of the World, Part I.”
Does anybody know where they shot this? It’s a really good looking movie…for Harold Ramis.
Just got word that Fox is doing an “Ice Age” promo next Saturday morning: at 8 frigging A.M. And at a theater that’s halfway to Toledo (that’s roughly a four-hour round trip for me). You’d swear they were trying to discourage “press” from showing up. Needless to say the Cleveburg market isn’t big enough to rate one of the 300 or so “sneak previews” on Father’s Day. Guess I won’t be seeing “Age 3” until opening day either. Sigh.
The Hurt Locker opens on four screens though. I assume that they’ll use July for a gradual expansion. Hopefully its performance will justify an eventual wide release in mid/late July.
If the 2012 trailer was coming out with a better director attached, I’d be real interested. I still am, because end of the world movies is one of my favorite genres…but man, Emmerich can take a great looking trailer and perfect premise and just hammer it to death. Day After Tomorrow looked good too, but that was so damn boring. How do you ruin a Godzilla movie, they’re not that hard. There was only ONE scene of Godzilal running around the city with little terrified people runningin the foreground and you never got a reveal of the monster. That’s what Godzilla’s ABOUT, Emmerich! Not “action scenes.”
Still, I’d like 2012 to be good because some of the shots in that trailer were amazing.
From Kami: “”Really looking forward to The Boat that Rocked with P.S.Hoffman and Nick Frost.”Why?”
Sorry to let your question hang so long, but P.S.Hoffman is just one of those guys that I can watch reading the yellow pages. And Nick Frost I just enjoy for the heck of it. Plus I like the spirit of the trailer. It looks like fun.
To Perm: I get where you’re coming from with the Emmerich effect. The man can cut a trailer! Also got the same disappointed reaction from The Day the earth stood still, which I think was actually more of a letdown than T4 when I think about it.
Something funny I have found is that when they make spoofs of these big blockbuster movies, the films themselves may be a steaming pile of shit, but the effects for the most part seem on par, (that is when the effect is not a joke itself), but you always hear about the huge budgets for the big films, but not much about the spoofs. Maybe the studios should hire the SFX teams behind the spoofs for their blockbusters and that would keep the cost down. The War of the World spoof effects in Scary Movie 2 weren’t far off and Speilberg spent a fortune on effects and Cruise.
Correction, should be Scary Movie 4.
“Anyone else think that Pelham 123 would have been a more interesting flick if the Denzel/Travolta roles were reversed?”
That occurred to me as well. One of the many glories of the original is the off-beat casting of the two leads: Matthau was doing mostly comedies at the time and Shaw was best-known here for period pieces and costume dramas (FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE had been over a decade prior).
I thought that Denzel as the bad guy in Pelham would’ve been interesting from the point where Travolta would be trying to profile this guy, and receiving pointers from all the professionals in the room as to what kind of guy they think this home grown terrorist is. And as we all know, black guys don’t do the hostage thing, so it would have been a big reveal.
SPOILER ALERT….SPOILER ALERT
Towards the end of Pelham, the cops are running toward one guy holding a gun on another guy. The film doesn’t make it clear that these cops know whats going on. They yell “drop it” or “freeze” or something to that effect. Travolta’s gun isn’t in plain sight. Denzel is pleading with him not to pull, he pulls, Denzel shoots. IMO, wouldn’t Denzel be the next one to drop? If cops will shoot a guy before he offs himself, woul’nt the also shoot a guy who just another guy?
SPOILER ALERT….SPOILER ALERT continued
WTF is wrong with me today, last sentence should read : wouldn’t they also shoot a guy who just shot another guy?
That loud noise you heard this morning was the sound of teeth-grinding by people here (and on other blogs) who were saying — hoping? — that Sandra Bullock was over. LOL. You go, girl.
Who was saying (hoping?) that?
Why is Ken Turan so stiff and uncomfortable in those VIDEO REVIEWS he does now for the Times website?
Shit, man, he should be telling some jokes and mugging and going off on side rants and using it to show some comedy chops. It’s like when that Anne (Thompson maybe?) subbed for Ebert with Roeper and it was like, here’s this smart, film-literate person… how can they be so NON-camera ready? Where’s the improv, where’s the charm?
“That loud noise you heard this morning was the sound of teeth-grinding by people here (and on other blogs) who were saying — hoping? — that Sandra Bullock was over. LOL. You go, girl.”
Yeah Sandra, go!
Go burn every print of “All About Steve” before it sees the light of a projector bulb because it looks like the kind of movie that gives Bullock haters justified cause.
@movieman: Those sneak previews of “Ice Age 3” on Father’s Day are only in 3D. The national release will be in 2D as well as 3D.
Incidentally “Ice Age 3” and “Public Enemies” will open up north on Canada Day. Nothing like a wide release on a national holiday, eh!
for the life of me i can’t remember which thread contained the comments about casual homophobic jibes that blokes make to each other and whether or not they are offensive and to whom – as prompted by discussion of ‘the hangover’ – so i’ll byob my thoughts having now seen the movie (it was funny but perhaps due to typical over-hyping i was expecting more, it wasn’t quite as bonza as i’d hoped). well, i don’t actually have much to say on the subject apart from this:
from a woman’s perspective – and i don’t assume i speak for all girls but having been one all my life i have a pretty good idea how chicks tend to think – i’ve always wondered if straight men realise the irony of these casual, supposedly ‘good-natured’ homophobic quips (or even the not so ‘good-natured’ taunts such as the one mentioned in another thread about someone at a concert shouting ‘faggot’ at the guy on stage, to which he responds ‘come up here and say that, i’ll kick yer ass’, or whatever)?
the irony being, when straight men diss other straight men, supposedly impugning their manhood either affectionately or downright nastily by calling them ‘faggot’ or ‘gay’, etc., do said men realise that to women at least, instead of making ‘the taunter’ sound manly or humourous, and making ‘the tauntee’ appear somehow less of a man, the exact opposite is achieved? it’s the supposedly manly ‘taunter’ that comes off as insecure, threatened, ignorant and sad. i’ve always wondered if guys actually realise this, being as you’d think one objective of straight men is to appear manly and attractive to women, and yet slinging homophobic barbs achieves the exact opposite in the eyes of lots of (most?) women, inducing inner eye-rolling.
there’s nothing more attractive to women than a man who is comfortable in his own skin, secure in his sexuality, confident and respectful, and in my experience these are not the men who make childish ‘faggot’ jibes. and if such jibes are directed at them, they brush it off with a wink and good humour rather than anger and more homophobia.
(kam: the ‘paging doctor faggot’ got a very light smatter of awkward laughter at my ‘hangover’ session, not quite the hum of crickets but close)
well, i guess that observation above went over like a lead balloon!
at any rate, that dargis piece on ‘K-BIG’ linked on the MCN homepage is pretty terrific, what a woman
Leah, the truth hurts. Most every guy who read that paused to think…no, really? No…really? No, not ME…
Bulldog, I was asking why in regards to The Boat that Rocked because the reviews haven’t exactly been good from anywhere that has seen a release already (UK and Australia being the only ones I’m aware of). Turned out to be a decent sized hit though.
Eh, more Boomer crap from middle-aged directors about their ’60s free-love/protest hippie heyday.
Can all these OLD FUCKS stop making that bullshit and we can get a definitive movie about the late ’80s? If I have to sit through one more goddamn Curtis, Cameron Crowe, Ron Howard, Zemeckis, Stone, Ang Lee movie about Woodstock or Nixon or Watergate… Interesting stuff, but isn’t fair to say we’ve heard ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER accompanying some montage of civil unrest, oh, a THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES by now? Boat, Woodstock, Almost Famous… Yes, we FUCKING GET IT. CHRIST.
MOVE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON already.
Also, I know the great Leah needs a Shamwow at every mention of K-BIG, I’m looking forward to Hurt Locker (though it won’t make a dime)…
But, come on, NOBODY was on this chick’s jock in the last 15 years. Am I suddenly to believe every Hot Blogger and AICN talkbacker was all loving WEIGHT OF WATER and K-19?
Strange.
christian: yikes, i didn’t mean to make anyone feel bad! just pontificating on the female slant and blowing smoke out my backside as usual
(lex luthor, what the hell is a ‘shamwow’? i honestly have no idea)
re: k-big, i have been a fan of hers for soooooooo very long (since i was a friggin’ TEENAGER, back in the olden days of yore for crying out loud), she has been an inspiration and an idol to me for much of my adult life and seeing her resurgence now warms the cockles of my heart like nobody’s business.
i’m the first to admit (and i’ve done so here on this blog several times) that her career in recent years has veered off the road and stalled out; after the well-intentioned but misguided, awkward and rather icky ‘the weight of water’ and the cold reception for the ponderous-but-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it’s-been-made-out-to-be ‘k-19’, she has certainly struggled to get films made – perhaps far more than a male director in her shoes would have done simply because that’s the cold hard truth for women operating in the boy’s club, wherein girls have to fight prejudice and stereotyping just to get on an equal footing; but cream has a way of rising to the top and kathryn is up with the best action directors, so i’m just psyched to see her (hopefully) getting a second chance to fulfill her enormous potential
Oh, Leah, you’ve been missing out (sort of, not really). Enjoy the pop-culture sensation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns4mnmNBk1Y
And the follow-up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUbWjIKxrrs&feature=related
THIS IS IMPORTANT, so listen up all comers:
I am rewatching the S4 season finale of VAGTOURAGE (also known as Entourage); Has ANYTHING in the entire history of cinema or tv been more painful than when JOHNNY DRAMA (AKA GOD) is FINALLY getting some groupie love and is going to FUCK that AWWWWWWWWESOME French chick but he fucks it up by being a douche?
I AM actually SOBBING watching this, it fucking sucks…. HOW awesome is it when YAIR tells that smoking hot blonde to go BLOW Turtle?????
THIS is the ULTIMATE POWER ON EARTH… the power to COMMAND VAG.
If you don’t believe this shit CAN and DOES happen, then you are naive. If YOU are not jealous of it, then YOU ARE A FOOL.
ONE MAN CAN COMMAND VAG, so it’s bullshit that the rest of us have to go to JOBS and take shit like a Payne movie sadsack.
Got a pretty wife? Happy girlfriend? DOESN’T MEAN FUCKING SHIT, because ONLY celebrity pussy counts, and ONLY model pussy counts, and sex only counts if you’re getting it BECAUSE OF WHO YOU ARE.
UNFAMOUS PEOPLE are the BIGGEST FUCKING ASSHOLES IN THE WORLD.
Until YOU are FAMOUS, YOU are a PIECE OF HUMAN GARBAGE.
How does it feel being USURPED IN LIFE by ZAC FUCKING EFRON?
EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THIS BLOG needs to respond right now IN TEARS ******admitting**** THAT THEY ARE AN INFERIOR LIFEFORM to ACTORS who can FUCK FAMOUS WOMEN.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS BULLSHIT.
FAME IS YOUR PERSONAL GOD ON THIS FUCKING EARTH. Anything less, you are GARBAGE, lower than fucking homeless, no matter how well off you are.
And it makes me SICK when I see some tool-ass white-bread couple shopping together in matching flip flops at a grocery store or worse at IKEA, all calling each other BABE and all happy to be alive and putting on grotesque PUBLIC DISPLAYS OF AFFECTION.
ALL A LIE.
Every man ON THIS PLANET would dump their wife or “girlfriend” (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) for ANY hotter piece of ass, AS IT SHOULD BE.
So give up the lie that you CARE about some NON FAMOUS WOMAN.
If you could bang Scarlett Johansson like RYAN REYNOLDS apparently you can, YOU WOULD DUMP YOUR CHICK in TEN SECONDS FLAT.
YEP YEP.
Fascinating Lex. Tell me more.
Awesome to read Leah’s thoughtful post about the male attitudes in The Hangover and elsewhere, and then Lex’s pathetic pseudo-macho rant underneath.
Anyway, one thing I’ll point out about the “paging Doctor Faggot” line, it’s not funny because they call him a faggot, it’s funny because he’s just told his wife that his friends are mature and responsible. And when she repeats the epithet to him, it underlines the notion that he’s getting emasculated by her, which is a running thing thoughout the film.
Leah you are right about this kind of abuse saying more about the people that lay it on others, but I think its usage in this film IS trying to make fun of guys that do that. It’s not as pointlessly crass as it seems.
Quite a good point about the “paging Dr. Faggot” scene there, lazarus. Sometimes the forest gets lost among the P.C. trees.
“Fascinating Lex.”
That needs a comma, dumb-ass.
See? I’m smarter than Christian.
Dumbass is one word.
Of course you are. You have three degrees.
Hey, Lex. It’s a beautiful afternoon. You should go take a walk or maybe drive down to the beach. Or maybe sign up for a yoga class. Not only will taking yoga help you get in shape and center you, but the class is full of hot quim.
“Dumbass” is not in Webster’s dictionary in any form, much less as one word. As such, the Chicago style manual (accepted by all newspapers, magazines, and proofreading companies) suggests it should be hyphenated.
Yeah, it’s a beautiful day but I have to work later. And Yoga is for New Age idiots who also believe anyone on this planet is actually psychic. In other words… yes, dumb, hot L.A. chicks. Always plenty of hot gash going in and out of every yoga studio I’ve ever seen with their MATS, but I’m busy today.
You are so totally not busy doing anything more strenuous than buying microwave dinners and exercising new synonyms for female body parts.
Get new schtick, loser.
Jeff, I am busy. I REALLY AM!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I have to call home for Father’s day, then I have plans to see a movie with a friend, then at 9pm I have to come back to the office to finish a project. I’ll get home at midnight and start drinking solo.
See? I’m BUSY. Wanna check my car’s fucking mileage while we’re at it? Want a xeroxed copy of my ticket stubs or phone bills?
Also, you’re a douche. Fuck off.
Excuses, excuses.
hi vince!
Sham Wow!
Slap Chop!
thanks, jeff, lmao
(yes, i did ‘get’ the ‘paging dr. faggot’ joke and realise why it’s meant to be funny. laz, i agree the movie is indeed poking fun at men who use the word ‘faggot’ in an immature, off-hand way; but in making fun of it the way they choose to, the film-makers are in a larger sense merely mirroring the same casual off-hand use of the word they are supposedly making fun of – perpetuating the ‘straight male myth’ wherein ‘the taunter’ is somehow funny and cool and ‘the tauntee’ is the imasculated weenie – so i see the humour as far less subversive than you do, if that makes any sense at all)
Leah, I didn’t mean to imply that the humor was subversive in any way. But I don’t think the guys in the car are supposed to be thought of as “funny and cool”, at least not for that joke. Again, the point is that Helms just said his friends were mature guys, and that joke reveals them to be childish. And while Helms isn’t made cooler by being on the receiving end, he does manage to stand up to his girlfriend at the end of the film and tell her to fuck off, while the remaining two guys are a slob in arrested development, and another with a family life he apparently feels trapped in.
It fucking RULES when Helms tells that shrew to fuck off, hellz yeah, Heather Graham RULES and it’s FUNNY AS FUCK when Bradley Cooper steals those kids’ field trip money.
GOOD MOVIE. Along with OBSERVE AND REPORT, funniest movie in like ever, at least since that DANE COOK MY BEST FRIEND’S GIRL MOVIE. Basically MOVIES WITH BALLS where GUYS COME OUT ON TOP instead of getting TREATED LIKE SHIT like they always do.
HEATHER GRAHAM COMMANDS YOU LIKE THE MIGHTY ZOD.
Also, I got three SIMPLE LETTERS for Ed Helms’ character in that movie, comin at you LEYKIS STYLE:
D.T.B., BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY!
“Words of wisdom, Lloyd, m’man. WORDS OF WISDOM.”
laz, i don’t see how what you’ve said above contradicts my position (i do think the boys in the car are at least meant to appear childishly silly and witty and fun, and certainly in the greater context of the story this is true of phil and alan), but tbh i’m knackered and not really thinking straight and i can barely remember what my original point was!
Boring as fuck here right now. Poland’s Twitter experiment killed this shit dead like fucking Orkin.
Be a God and watch VAN-HUDGE in her little cute outfits and sneakers YAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRqOjhNN4hQ
I HAVE A GIANT BONER FOR VANESSA HUDGENS and if I could ever bang her I’d ask her to be naked except for her SEXY HAT IN THE SNEAKERNIGHT VIDEO and a pair of NEON SNEAKERS.
HAHAHAHAHA FUNNY SHIT, LEXG FUNNIEST MAN IN AMERICA.