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Marvel Goes Mickey Chat on AOTS

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38 Responses to “Marvel Goes Mickey Chat on AOTS”

  1. SJRubinstein says:

    Hey – great appearance! Ad if they kill “Thor,” look for the fans to go nuts claiming Disney will be the end of Marvel when, well, I don’t think you’re wrong in your assertions.

  2. scooterzz says:

    funny, i’m always inclined to type ‘atos’ too….

  3. David Poland says:

    Thanks, Scoot… it’s true… my next appearance is on Law & Order: SUV.

  4. martin says:

    I don’t really follow comics at all, but I think Corey Feldman would be great to play that eye-patch guy.

  5. Zac Bertschy says:

    I liked the juxtaposition of the reasonable, informed and intelligent discussion of the acquisition between you and Hardwick versus the scrolling line of tired, predictable and retarded “nerd rage” Twitter comments they had running at the bottom of the screen.

  6. IOIOIOI says:

    1) They already killed Thor. He just came back. I already blame Disney for… House of M, The Civil War, the Skrull Invasion, and Dark Reign. It’s all their fault.
    2) Zac, those two know jack and shit about comics. Dave is more theatre now than man. He sold in his geek card years ago. So here’s to the twitter rage. It’s at least… current.

  7. LexG says:

    Hardwick used to go to one of my open mikes which makes him officially THE most famous person I’ve met in 14 years in L.A., along with David Poland, Greg Behrendt, Brian Austin Green, The Diceman, and Ron Jeremy.

  8. LYT says:

    Good Appearance.
    I think Captain America is a good idea, and a very marketable one, if done with any competence.
    Thor has always seemed like a bit of a minefield, but with Branagh I have hope.
    ScarJo in a Black Widow movie also seems like money.

  9. LexG says:

    “ScarJo in a Black Widow movie also seems like money.”
    In other words, Megan or Scarlett as hot window dressing in some OTHER dude’s superhero story? Geeks are down. JUST Megan or Scarlett wearing tights and spitting cutting camp lines? Guys get a little embarrassed and won’t go EN MASSE to see that shit.
    Wait and watch Jennifer’s Body make 11 dollars flat in two weeks, and see this theory writ large.

  10. LYT says:

    Where do the Angelina Jolie Tomb Raider movies fit into that theory…or all three Resident Evil flicks with Milla?

  11. jeffmcm says:

    Or the Underworld movies.

  12. jeffmcm says:

    Actually, I’m confused – Lex, shouldn’t Jennifer’s Body be one of your stupid ‘one hundred million dollar opening day’ annoyances?

  13. LexG says:

    Lou: You’re cool.
    Jeff: I never had any real animosity toward you, thought it was all theater, but tonight you’ve put me over the top: You’re a fucking PIECE OF SHIT AS A HUMAN BEING and you will be thanked, a la Leydon, NEVER to address me again, ever. Limp-dick scrawny fuck.

  14. christian says:

    And women despised THE MATRIX.

  15. LexG says:

    Hey… Hey Christian!
    You’re a pussy. Suck my balls, motherfucker.

  16. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

    The eye patch man actually looks like Liam Neeson.

  17. mysteryperfecta says:

    Nice job, DP. You’re a natural on-screen.

  18. The Big Perm says:

    That was a good show. I’ve never watched G4 but that was funny!
    LYT is right, Captain America could do really well if they make it work. Thor…I don’t know, is there any way to make that non-silly?

  19. storymark says:

    This, is the new well-bahaved Lex? People have the audacity to cite several (very obviouse) exceptions to one of his rules, so they all get called names? How is that new?

  20. Martin S says:

    Odin, the dude with the eyepatch, is supposedly Brian Blessed – Prince Voltan of Flash Gordon fame – since he’s a Branagh stock player.

  21. Martin S says:

    …and the FF bumrush by Fox is totally a play to keep the rights. I hope to god in heaven Disney muddies the F out of those waters and kills the re-launch in its crib.

  22. christian says:

    Lex: The Creature From David’s ID!

  23. yancyskancy says:

    Martin: The “eye patch guy” the others are referring to is Nick Fury, as seen in the screen shot up top.

  24. storymark says:

    Yancy – wrong “eye patch guy”. Both Odin and Fury have a spare socket.

  25. Martin S says:

    I thought the discussion was Thor. My bad if not.
    Fury should have been Kurt Russell, Willis or Berenger.

  26. Hallick says:

    “LYT is right, Captain America could do really well if they make it work. Thor…I don’t know, is there any way to make that non-silly?”
    I would have thought the situation was reversed. I can easily picture somebody pulling off a non-silly “Thor” movie if done in the same vein as “Lord of the Rings”, “Beowulf and Grendel”, “The Navigator”, etc: grimy, tough, mystical, and so on.
    Captain America though…the name sounds silly and dated if you step back and look at it objectively. He actually feels more like he’d belong in the first generation “Watchmen” universe than his own. Sort of like The Comedian, except with a purity streak bordering on reactionary as he got older and lived through the me decades. Start him off now, in the modern era, and you’re looking at a character maybe Dick Cheney would love.

  27. yancyskancy says:

    storymark: I’m pretty sure that (lower case) martin and Kami were referring to the above pic of Nick Fury, which does kinda resemble both Corey Feldman and Liam Neeson (even if that seems impossible in theory).

  28. storymark says:

    yancy – Yeah, I missed the big-M / small-m difference.
    Hallick – “He actually feels more like he’d belong in the first generation “Watchmen” universe than his own.”
    Well, it will be set primarily during WWII, so it’s not far off.

  29. jeffmcm says:

    If somebody could pull of a modern-day Captain America, and have it actually resonate, it would be the pop-culture phenomena of the decade. To appeal to a mass audience across the political spectrum? You’ve got a hit as big as The Dark Knight. I have no idea how it could happen, but if I was Marvel, I’d wait to make that movie until I had the right director/producer who could knock it out of the park. Setting the movie in WWII is taking the easy route.

  30. storymark says:

    But WWII is the character’s roots. You may think it’s the easy route, but it’s also the most logical.
    Besides, we’ve been inundated with modern superhero flicks. I rather like the idea of a period film.

  31. jeffmcm says:

    A WWII setting makes sense for the first 15 minutes of the movie. Then he gets stuck in ice and wakes up in the modern era.
    Mind you, I’m not talking about the version of the movie that will actually get made, or that most people are going to want to see.

  32. Martin S says:

    Marvel won’t do modern, as in Cap created today. They’ve pushed the movie back since 9/11 for a myriad of reasons, but it’s all PC bullshit. Arad was a pussy about it because the analogy of Hydra and Al-Qaeda scared him and Feige’s shown to be as much of a wuss with allusions to how disliked we were internationally.
    It’s been all about the foreign markets for nearly a decade and that’s why on its current trajectory, it’s bound to a Superman Returns fate. They want to introduce the concept of The Invaders but as an international team of Captain America equals, which leads to him forming the Avengers to battle a new threat in that film. But like Singer didn’t understand, once you start down the path of diluting something purely Americana to appease foreign markets, you kill the point of the character and end up with nothing bold to market.
    If they were smart – and they haven’t been with Cap – they’d take the opposite approach. Make him a cross between Audie Murphy, John Wayne and Indiana Jones in WW2, then force him to deal with the complexities of today’s enemies which requires a team.

  33. jeffmcm says:

    Martin, your last point is what I’m hoping, albeit with probably a little less Sands of Iwo Jima John Wayne and a little more The Searchers/ Rio Bravo John Wayne.

  34. Martin S says:

    Jeff – I agree, but anything Wayne would be a step in the right direction.

  35. leahnz says:

    speak of CAP-AM, i’ve been meaning to ask: who is that cheeky-looking wee tyke character next to him on the marvel banner above, wearing what appears to be a pink doggy/bunny-eared-type hat? he’s not ringing any bells for me

  36. Triple Option says:

    Martin S wrote: But like Singer didn’t understand, once you start down the path of diluting something purely Americana to appease foreign markets, you kill the point of the character and end up with nothing bold to market.”
    Bit of a sidestep but would say that was the biggest element or cause for Superman’s failure, either filmatically or financially? (If we can separate that bad movies can be financially successful in spite of poor quality).

  37. jeffmcm says:

    Good point, Triple. I’d say that the lack of Americana in Superman Returns was one of the least of its’ problems.

  38. LexG says:


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