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BYOB Weekend – Dec 18, 2009

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42 Responses to “BYOB Weekend – Dec 18, 2009”

  1. Josh Massey says:

    So in anticipation of the new year, I just watched 2010 for the first time since the ’80s. Gotta say, that’s a pretty solid flick.
    It reminded me of Psycho II – always in the shadow of an impossible-to-match original, but quite good on its own.
    Of course, a 1984 version of 2010 is high entertainment. We can fly to Jupiter, but our computer screens are still green text on black backgrounds.

  2. hcat says:

    I remember Lithgow being great in 2010, might have been the first time I saw him in a movie. And Schieder was always great, I’ve been meaning to rent Blue Thunder when I get the time, might revisit this one as well.

  3. christian says:

    For being a sequel almost guaranteed to fail, 2010 came out pretty good as another kind of 80’s film.
    I particularly like Keir Dullea’s appearance: “Something wonderful…”

  4. hcat says:

    Of all sequels that continue the story without the orginal cast or crew; Sting, Jaws, Butch and Sundance (there have got to be a few others right?). 2010 was easily the best follow-up.

  5. LexG says:

    Hcat: Amityville II: The Burt Young Years.
    BOW.

  6. storymark says:

    What, no love for the Hasslehoff’s “Ring of the Musketeers” or Chris Reeves’ “Great Escape 2”???

  7. LexG says:

    Scott Glenn and Sir Lawrence Olivier (instead of Roger Moore, Richard Harris, Richard Burton.)
    WILD GEESE II.
    These days, with franchises being every actor’s dream, where the “everybody’s back!” mentality extends to Andy Garcia’s secure knowledge that he’s got a gig in 2021 in “Ocean’s Sixteen,” kinda odd to think back in the day they’d bust out sequels where MAC DAVIS stood in for Robert Redford.

  8. MarkVH says:

    Jaws 2 had Scheider, Murray Hamilton, Lorraine Gary and the guy who played the deputy. Only actors from the first who were missing, if I recall, were Dreyfuss and Shaw (would’ve been tough to bring him back). This counts more or less as having the same cast, no?

  9. hcat says:

    Mark, Sorry, I meant Jaws3, which came out around the same time as 2010, I changed the sentance before I posted but forgot to clarify which sequel I was talking about. I also forgot to add the Airport series, and Beyond the Posieden Adventure

  10. Eric says:

    I think they could have worked in the ghost of Quint somehow.

  11. hcat says:

    and Force 10 from Naverone.
    almost all 78-84.

  12. LYT says:

    But 2010 does have the key original cast members: Keir Dullea and Douglas Rain as HAL. Only Dr. Floyd was recast.
    I’ll put in a vote for Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, which is easily weirder and more fun than the original (which I admit was more groundbreaking, just don’t enjoy as much).

  13. leahnz says:

    for ‘best sequel with no original cast’ i’ll say predator 2. it’s a rubbish movie compared to the mctiernan classic but i quite like it, it’s thoroughly obnoxious. and the chase at the end is bonza

  14. EOTW says:

    Just got back from seeing AVATAR at the first showing in my small town. the 3D was FANTASTIC. It wa a GREAT moviegoing experience. that being said (did I mention that Cameron is a genius?), the story is a little flat, but the presentation is historic. it is DANCES WITH WOLVES but ith more panache and style.

  15. Dr Wally says:

    “it is DANCES WITH WOLVES but ith more panache and style.”
    Oof, have to beg to differ with that one Sir. The sequence of Jake learning to ride the Banshee was a wow, for sure, but nothing in Avatar for me comes close to the majesty of the buffalo hunt or Pawnee raid in Dances. And give me the glory of John Barry over James Horner’s weedy Avatar score any day. Too bad that DWW has had to take shit from pissy Goodfellas fans for two decades now, and it’s time to see the balance readressed.

  16. leahnz says:

    i certainly get the ‘dances with wolves’ analogy (and i think both DWW, of which i am also a fan, and avatar are heartfelt in their own unique ways) but i also saw a great deal of ‘dune’ in ‘avatar’. is ‘dune’ being referenced much in the reviews? i guess i should wade thru a few more, i only checked out some of the early notices

  17. LYT says:

    Dune was referenced by Massawyrm at AICN, my favorite reviewer there.
    And hey, remember what I said before about how the religious right would absolutely NOT go for Avatar?
    Behold:
    http://www.movieguide.org/box-office/7/10075/avatar

  18. leahnz says:

    thanks LYT
    the ‘drill, baby, drill!’ crowd and ‘national association of logging conglomerates’ will be next in the line of ‘i hate avatards’

  19. CleanSteve says:

    LOL! Great link, LYT.
    I like that AVATAR is “”slow, shallow and abhorrent.”
    Kinda like the Bible.
    Cheap shot!
    The reviews and opinions on this movie make me hate mankind. People bitching that folks like it because it’s “pro-green and/or anti-war,” but it’s ok to not like it because it’s “pro-green and/or anti-war.”
    And of course there’s the “it sucks because I AM A STOUT BELIEVER IN GREAT STORY, PLOT AND LAYERED CHARACTERS FIRST AND FOREMOST!!”
    Yea..because every movie you like has those. EVERY single movie you like. HAS PERFECT PLOTTING, LANDMARK STORYTELLING AND REALISTIC CHARACTERS. Right. Fine if you don’t like the movie but get the fuck off your high horse (Beaks…Faraci…) and stop telling blatant lies.
    I will be the first human in history to admit that story and characters are NOT the most important thing for me in EVERY movie. Especially not a slice of genre storytelling.
    And you know what? I am a far happier, joyful human being because of it.
    It’s ok to simply enjoy the experience once and a while. But then again there are morons who really think that the Death Star exploding (SPOILER) was a shocking twist, or that Han Solo is more than just a well-acted genre cliche. Or that the dialogue in A NEW HOPE makes David Mamet look like a pile a poopy.
    Sometimes I hate being a movie lover, because other movie lover can be such utter embarrassments.
    Enjoy!

  20. CleanSteve says:

    Personally, I hate movies that DON’T show sex between partiall clad aliens and hints of bestiality with animals and sentient aliens
    establishing physical and mental connections that are like a spiritual,almost sexual

  21. leahnz says:

    bonza rant, cleansteve

  22. CleanSteve says:

    I went a bit overboard, I think. I don’t sound like a “joyful” person. Spent too much time today reading reviews.
    Thank god we have a Christmas party tonight to get my rear out of the house. Kahlua, here I come.

  23. leahnz says:

    crap, that was meant as a compliment, cleansteve! (i type fast and forget that my slang doesn’t always make sense in the northern hemi, my bad)

  24. SJRubinstein says:

    Consider me a convert to the church of “Crazy Heart.” Great fucking flick and yeah, Bridges for Best Actor.

  25. Joe Leydon says:

    At what point did we start using the word “Bonza” in here?

  26. Geoff says:

    Ok, I saw it, this afternoon – AMAZING, live up to the hype! Beautifully shot, exciting, immersive, and not nearly as hokey as I would have thought. Cameron yanks you into this world and does not let go – very nicely paced, true sense of danger throughout and true sense of beauty throughout.
    Sam Worthington was much better than I thought he would be – usually, voice-over narration can sink you, but he does it well. The performance capture was simply amazing, the actors made you buy it, too.
    Only real weakness I found was the score – James Horner is just too damn derivative of his own hits, at this point. Not only did I hear too many Titanic-like cues, but the guy was aping a lot of Glory, as well.
    Still a home run, four stars, one of the best of the year, no doubt. Just like with Precious, the political stuff has been WAY overstated – this story has been around for hundred’s of years and all of a sudden, it’s a left wing screed???? Give me a break – the Breitbart/Nolte crew has got to seriously lighten up, already. It’s ok to dwell for two hours of screentime on the stoning of Sonja-whatever her name is or focusing on a cat-of-nine-tails ripping apart Jesus, but having
    SPOILER ALERT
    one intense scene about the destruction of a tree and thousands of people around it is overdoing it???? It’s a good scene and makes a good point, but it’s not liberal propaganda. We’ve seen Alderaan get blown up, we’ve seen Vulcan get blown up, we’ve seen the White House get blown up – were those political? Seriously, Breitbart and Nolte and the rest of them should just lighten the fuck up, already.
    But back to the movie – yes, the story is derivative, but I can assure that you have never seen it like this. It moves, stays true to its own logic, and just dazzles – every one should be learning from Cameron, at this point.
    I also think the film is much more chick-friendly than any one is giving it credit for – hell, I want to take my wife now, because she loves Yoga, reads lots of books about spirituality and nature, and might even get the story more than I did.
    Stephen Lang was fantastic and gave his character all of the necessary charisma, Zoe Saldana does a great job portraying some one somewhat alien and feral yet relatable, and it’s nice to see Michelle Rodriguez playing the role she was always meant to play…..the tough Cameron heavy with a heart of gold.
    The film should do well, but I’m expecting numbers just above Star Trek-domestic – $300 million is going to be tough with the Sherlock Holmes buzzsaw coming, next week.

  27. Joe Leydon says:

    Just got back from seeing Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel. And I have to say: Wendie Malick is still one smokin’ hot chick.

  28. IOIOIOI says:

    Joe… GOOD TO KNOW!

  29. Joe, the moment “bonza” became an amazing work, which was a very long time ago (you probably just didn’t notice?)
    …bonza!

  30. LexG says:

    Strange that this awesome movie seems almost like old news or an Oscar afterthought before it’s even released in 99% of the country, but…
    LOVELY BONES. Really, REALLY liked this; It goes long stretches where it’s so beautiful, queasy, troubling, sad and tragic, it’s UNREAL to me that a smart filmmaker like Jackson can include occasional stretches so bad you can’t believe what you’re watching.
    SPOILER: One of the last scenes, the one involving Tucci and an icicle, is SO TERRIBLE it almost sinks the 125 minutes that preceded it. Not since Michael Corleone’s undignified, cheesy last scene in Godfather III on a lawnchair has something so awkward, clunky, and STUPID passed muster with its master filmmaker. I can only assume that was from the novel, but… everything about it was awkward and risible, from concept to execution.
    And that SARANDON MONTAGE? The first hour or so has this unnerving, sensitive, earnest-bordering-on-embarrassing tightrope act, we’re totally absorbed (IF we choose to go with it), unspeakable tragedy is occurring… Then Sarandon blowzes in in some “wacky,” vulgar montage that seems like it’s from a 1992 Brian Levant movie.
    Ironically, I could kind of take or leave the fantastical elements all around, from the Tarsemy netherworld to the Holly Golightly kid — the stuff with Wahlberg, Weisz, Tucci, Imperioli and the surviving sister was breathtaking enough that the netherworld stuff seemed like garish (if interesting enough) window dressing.
    But another gripe: a hundred years of cinema, all the CGI in the world, Cameron can invent the NA’VI…
    And Jackson and all his millions can’t buy Tucci a more believable “bad hair” wig than some obvious, stringy monstrosity that looks like it’s from a 12:53 skit on 1982 SNL?

  31. LexG says:

    LOVELY BONES.
    I will continue bumping dead threads until someone chimes in about its awesomeness. It has a few sections that are astonishingly wrong-headed, but at least 75% of it is the most interesting, weird, creepy and uncomfortable movie of 2009. Wahlberg’s and especially Ronan’s performances are heartbreaking and real…
    This looks like an INVICTUS-level fast fader in the Oscar talks, but I wish it weren’t so…
    Aside from that wretched Sarandon stretch and Tucci’s embarrassing last scene, this deserves a LOT more respect than it’s getting.
    I wish leahnz was fighting tooth and nail to talk this one up in every thread instead of AVATAR; Love it or hate it, I think it’s a more interesting and troublesome movie.

  32. leahnz says:

    hey lex, i’m stoked you (anybody for that matter!) like ‘the bones’, bit of a sore subject; i think it’s a little gem of a flick – touching, challenging, heart-wrenching, beautiful, tragic, trippy – but apparently it put most critics off like week-old garbage (tho i guess some liked it); it’s not an easy film to define and put in a certain box as ‘this’ or ‘this’ so it will be interesting to see what happens if it gets a wide release, how movie-goers at large will respond to it as opposed to critics
    (it’s hard to stick up for a movie in the threads that nobody is talking about, i’d seem like more of a weirdo than i already do)

  33. leahnz says:

    lex, further to the above, i’ve never looked at this dealio on imdb before as i put little stock in such things but i was curious about any audience reaction to the bones to date:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0380510/ratings
    not bad fwiw

  34. The Big Perm says:

    I like Peter Jackson well enough, but the man cheeses everything up too much for my taste. There is ZERO subtlety in the man, and it seems like this is a story that needs it. I’ll catch this one on video, I guess.
    And I see Mark Wahlberg in that hairdo and I think it’s probably kind of painful to watch (maybe not in the way Jackson intended).

  35. leahnz says:

    well thanks for that perm, being snide about a film you haven’t seen is so rare on this blog!

  36. The Big Perm says:

    Sorry for having an opinion. I guess we should only say nice things or not say anything at all. Because those make for interesting discussions.
    Seriously, I saw that trailer and then the reviews seemed to back up what I thought…so why would I pay to see it?
    And having seen all of Jacksons other films, I can safely say he DOES cheese everything up and he doesn’t know what subtlety means. I don’t want to see a cartoon about child murder.

  37. The Big Perm says:

    However I will concede…I was wrong about Wahlberg’s hair. It looks wonderful!

  38. leahnz says:

    “Seriously, I saw that trailer and then the reviews seemed to back up what I thought”
    perm, you don’t REALLY think you can judge a film by the trailer, do you? come on now
    “I don’t want to see a cartoon about child murder”
    well, so long as you’ve made no assumptions about the movie…’the bones’ may be many things but ‘cartoon’ isn’t one of them

  39. christian says:

    Big Perm makes movies and doesn’t have to think. ALIENS is just a monster movie and AVATAR is about big blue people and THE LOVELY BONES is a sad cartoon and…

  40. The Big Perm says:

    Well gee leahnz, isn’t that what trailers are for? To give you a taste of the movie? Knowing Peter Jackson and seeing that trailer gives me a pretty decent idea what to expect.
    And christian…I may be dumb, but as I recall you’re the guy who kept crying that if Obama wasn’t elected you were moving out of the country. So I don’t peg you as some great thinker either. Since we all know you were full of shit. Guess you got lucky.

  41. christian says:

    Except I would have moved. No problem. Not sure how you know otherwise. But yeah, we all got lucky.

  42. The Big Perm says:

    Ha ha, well I guess we’ll have to take your word for it.
    But of course my thesis would extend to Aliens since you want to bring it up again, is that the guy who would abandon his country because of a right-winger winning the presidency, is probably also a guy who sees neocon boogerbears in the movies he watches.

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