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By David Poland poland@moviecitynews.com

It's The SAGgies!

What is there to say?
If you think you can determine anything about The Oscars by looking at the SAG nominations, you are on crack.
The idea of Best Ensemble as an important reflection of where The Academy will go with Best Picture is mythology made even less real by 10 BP nominees.
And let’s not forget 2007… No Country for Old Men, 3:10 to Yuma, American Gangster, Hairspray, Into the Wild. Well… that didn’t work out so well.
The acting nods could go a lot like this. Diane Kruger isn’t happening. I would bet that at least one actor in each of the male acting categories here will be disappointed on Oscar nomination morning.
Bring on the “shouldn’t this award stand on its own” chatter if you must. But SAG is another group that desperately wants to be seen as a precursor. Yes, every honor is a good thing. Yes, I am pleased that a few of the dumb choices not to nom at HFPA are showing up here, if only because hyperactive Oscar analysts would make too much hay of the names being in or out.
So now we can enjoy the holidays before announcements from WGA (Jan 11), DGA (Jan 7) and PGA (Jan 5), which will make everyone’s life harder by going to 10 nominees to mirror The Academy.

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5 Responses to “It's The SAGgies!”

  1. Dave says:

    While I agree with the notion that the SAGs aren’t that important for Oscar nominations, don’t you think all five Ensemble nominees are heading for BP nominations anyway? If the field was five strong, then I’d say at two if not three were in danger, but with 10 all five were among my predictions anyway.
    Who do you think will get left out for Best Actor? Seems like that lineup is a pretty strong possibility right now. I don’t think Damon will get in for Supporting Actor, and Kruger definitely not. Not 100% sold on Mirren, Bullock and Plummer either. The rest however look good to go – at least at this point, but that could easily change.

  2. Joe Leydon says:

    Damn. Once again: No love for Hal Holbrook. Bummer.

  3. Hopscotch says:

    I agree that Mirren and Plummer probably won’t make it through, and I’m surprised that Cotillard got left off. Bullock I can see going through because people have actually seen that movie.
    The supporting actor is the most in flux. Clearly Waltz will get in there, but the rest I’m fairly curious about. who will be the Michael Shannon this year? I hope it’s Alfred Molina who was just wonderful in that role.

  4. yancyskancy says:

    Even though I liked Kruger in Basterds (a bit to my surprise), if they were gonna nominate someone from that film for Supporting Actress, it should’ve been Melanie Laurent.

  5. Laurant was submitted into the lead category. Unlike Oscar, SAG voters can’t pick and choose they vote for somebody in. Same goes for Cotillard, submitted as lead but getting both lead and supporting buzz with Oscar (ala Kate Winslet last year for The Reader).
    Remember when the SAG ensemble category used to actually be about rewarding ensembles and not a default best picture category. 2007 was glorious in that regard, but then they negated that by giving the prize to Slumdog last year, which was just absurdity of the highest order.
    Mirren is the only best actress contender I’m not too sure about, but the other four look solid as rocks. There are plenty of people who have received Golden Globe and SAG nominations but failed to get Oscars so it’s not out of the realm of possibility.

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