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  1. Stella's Boy says:

    Two things:
    1) Superb trailer for The Social Network. I was a little iffy on this one (The Accidental Billionaires isn’t very good) at first but I am officially very excited for it now.
    2) Though I am not much of a horse racing fan, I can’t wait to see HBO’s Luck. Pilot directed by Michael Mann, created and written by David Milch, starring Dustin Hoffman, John Ortiz, Dennis Farina, and Nick Nolte. Awesome.

  2. Peter Guber just bought my GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS!!

  3. Shillfor Alanhorn says:

    Reposting this because it got lost in the shuffle of a pissing match in the middle of the Inception thread:
    So P. Goldstein is at it again, milking the INCEPTION controversy for his THIRD such column in as many days. After giving a shoutout to the film’s “freshness and originality,” calling it “vivid and outrageously new,” then making comparisons to CITIZEN KANE, 2001, Dylan going electric and Nirvana’s NEVERMIND, he casually adds “I’m eager to see the movie for myself.” Which means HE’S MAKING THESE BOLD PROCLAMATIONS AND CRITICIZING CRITICS OF THE FILM WITHOUT EVEN HAVING SEEN THE F-ING THING YET!!!! Which begs the question: what happens if he sees it and ends up agreeing with Edelstein? How could he back away from his a priori position? Or would he even bother trying?

  4. JPK says:

    Today is the start of the Nobody Gives a Shit Film Festival..sorry, I mean, today is the start of the Indianapolis International Film Festival.

  5. Sam says:

    Lots of movie fans like to disparage the Oscars and say that they’re out of touch. Others disparage the public instead. Both camps argue over the kinds of movies that will be remembered in time.
    I decided to do a quickie analysis to see whether the Oscars or the box office was more predictive of which movies will eventually stand the test of time.
    This is quick and dirty, no doubt with room for improvement. I’m open to suggestions.
    Scroll down if you want to skip straight to the pretty graphs.

  6. MAGGA says:

    Interesting grraphs. Having not read the article (heading out), is imdb a good barometer? Not everyone uses it as a forum for evaluating films

  7. hcat says:

    I try not to get agitated over the mere exisitance of certain films, I realize not everything needs to be made to my sensibilities, but the more I see of Dinner for Schmucks the more I feel personally insulted. The original was not a masterpiece but it was at least grounded in reality. Did they have to infantize it so much for American audiences? Are we that stupid?

  8. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    RAISING ARIZONA remains at the very apex of human achievement. I’d reckon it’s more important than the polio vaccine.
    Every single goddamn line is perfect, memorable, quotable, and/or funny. And I still sit here and laugh. I saw it in ’87 (I believe) in the majestic yet almost empty Wintergarden Theater in Jamestown, NY (just recently, sadly, tragically torn down). And I remember almost suffering spasms during the Huggies sequence.
    My god. It’s still the bees knees.
    “Balloons! These blow up into funny shapes and stuff?”
    “No. Unless round is funny.”

  9. Hopscotch says:

    WillRiel, I also have the greatest admiration for that movie. One of the true original gems of the 1980’s.
    perfect example of a non-Award winner, non-box office hit that EVERYONE I know could quote endlessly and is beloved. The Big Lebowski is the same.

  10. christian says:

    RAISING ARIZONA is the Coen’s best film. THE BIG LEBOWSKI is their worst cult film.

  11. BrandonS says:

    Raising Arizona makes me happier than any other movie I can think of. There are movies I like and admire more (even other Coen movies – I’d say Fargo is a better overall package), but nothing that brings that level of pure joy.

  12. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    Christian, it took me over 10 years to get anything out of Lebowski. I hated it upon first viewing. It just felt like it collapsed in on itself from too-muchness, where as R.A. is light on it’s feet every step of the way.
    But I love it now. It just kind of clicked one day, like when a manager talks about a football player by saying “the light came on for him.”
    Don’t love it as much as Raising Arizona. Very few filmmakers come out of the box as confidently and fully-realized as the Coens did. R.A. and Blood Simple just freaking roll, top to bottom.
    Spending some of this 95 degree day watching it almost makes me sorry I swore like a sailor at you and Movieman about what I considered a spoiler in the most recent Inception thread. In fact….aw hell!! I’m sorry, dude.

  13. christian says:

    I adore Bridges and Tutuuro and a few scenes, but Goodman and Busecmi are unbearable. I guess I find the fans more overbearing than the film;]

  14. A. E. Ase says:

    For a generation the original Dinner for Schmucks (french: le diner de cons) is a comedy classic. It may arguably not be a masterpiece but the humor is so intrinsically rooted in french culture that I can’t imagine most of the film’s genius not being lost in translation. It is without a doubt a fantastic comedy that was quite a success in it’s day an retains a cult reputation.
    Dinner for Schmucks should be treated as a different animal and not compared to the original on any grounds. It’s got potential in an A-cast that could do something fun with the concept. Not likely (sacharine anyone?) but still possible.

  15. christian says:

    No worries. Seriously, there is nothing to spoil in INCEPTION. Still best to go watch it with a clean slate though.

  16. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    For me RAISING is as close to a perfect movie as you can get. I was a huge fan when it came out but moreso now when I realised that it hasn’t aged (remember when you thought STRIPES was good?) and that everything in it still seems as fresh as in 87. I find it a great litmus test to weed out people you won’t ever get along with. If they dislike RAISING then their internal wiring is screwed up. MILLER’s and RAISING I feel are the Coen’s crowning achievements, everything else appear to be lesser tangents from these two towering works.

  17. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    I like Busecmi in Lebowski. He underplays it and genuinely feels like the sort of under appreciated third-wheel buddy we all have (unless we are the third wheel….) But I like the guy’s face. He’s sort of a harry Dean Stanton type where he makes everything better just by showing his mug (nowhere near the heights of HDS, but who is?). Busecmi made the last half hour of Grown Ups watchable.
    I always wanted to start a punk band called Unpainted Huffheimers. Never happened.

  18. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    It that has that going for it. I think it looks like a silly time and will see it.
    FOCKERS….man, I like Stiller even though a lot of people don’t. Tropic Thunder is cracking. And I like the way he and DeNiro play off each other. But I don’t think I need to see anything that movie has to offer until it’s on TBS 3 times in a row in about 2 years.

  19. LexG says:

    You know if they did Raising Arizona today, instead of Cage being awesome and hilarious, we’d get Clooney shucking and jiving and working up a sweat on triple-overtime trying to convince us how ZANY he is.
    It would also be shot through brown and beige filters with nary a primary color in sight.
    But… But… Great movie and all, but you guys really like it better than Blood Simple? Isn’t violent suspense ALWAYS inherently better than comedy, which is the lowest of the low as film genres go? And don’t you get at least a LITTLE embarrassed watching Holly Hunter in it?
    Women should never try to be funny, and ticky comedy character women always feel gross and like bad camp. When Cage, Goodman and Forsythe are buffooning around, it’s funny. When Hunter is talking fast or making those stupid faces, it gets kind of embarrassing, because no woman should ever act that way. It’s undignified.
    Where’s Jerry Lewis to back me up on this. Women can’t be funny. Ever.

  20. leahnz says:

    so you’re actually a woman? who knew

  21. LexG says:

    That doesn’t even make sense, lesbnz.

  22. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    I get reminded at how good Holly Hunter could be.
    And I will admit the ending of RAISING ARIZONA never ever ever fails to move me. I think it’s one of the most genuinely heartfelt, hopeful and sweet endings I’ve ever seen. And it does it without fully resolving itself, which is probably why I find it so powerful. The lack of irony makes it astounding when looking at the Coen’s body of work.
    You’re probably right Lex, and that ending would be replaced with a sitcom happy-ending montage set to “Baby Got Back.”
    Blood Simple is the shit, too. But nothing beats those dogs gathering, for no other reason than they are dogs, to chase down H.I.

  23. IOv2 says:

    The Curmudgeon bashing on Lebowski. Shocking. Absolutely shocking.

  24. christian says:

    Boo yah to leah.
    Yeah, watching all those SCTV discs, I was struck how much better it would have been minus Catherine O’Hara and Andrea Martin. Same with SNL.
    And as I recall, there’s a giant burly demon biker in RA who supplies lots of violence suspense.

  25. christian says:

    Hey IO, is everything binary in your world?
    A simple YES or NO will suffice.

  26. LexG says:

    If anyone wants to be reminded of how BAD Holly Hunter can be, tune in to see her mannered hambone mugging and harrumphing in any given episode of her godawful TV show.
    Women aren’t funny. Christian the Sensitive Man and Lesbnz can get pissed at me for being the messenger on this, but this is a UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED FACT that every guy I’ve ever known (and I did standup for YEARS) will admit behind closed doors. No men think women are funny. Ever. Except for gay men. Hence, Christian.

  27. christian says:

    You did failed-up stand-up for years and gained Universally Accepted Facts about comedy?
    Shouldn’t you get back to Wells frat-site now so you can get your happy endings there?

  28. leahnz says:

    they’re paging the manager of ‘assholes R’US’, lex, you’re needed on isle 8 for an anal leakage clean-up

  29. christian says:

    Right after he’s done stalking some little girls in the TWILIGHT section.

  30. jeffmcm says:

    Raising Arizona > Blood Simple.
    I’ll take a good comedy any day over a good ‘violent suspense’ movie.
    Lex sucks.

  31. LexG says:

    Jeff: Why would you say that? The comedy over suspense thing. Especially since you’re an EDITOR, no? I’d think anyone who’s cinematically inclined would prefer suspense, action, intensity over “comedy,” which all too often is just SITCOM bland.
    Yes, Raising Arizona or Lewbowski are auteurist works with a lot going on visually, so they’re not really what anyone thinks of as standard “comedies.”
    But “I’ll take a good comedy”? You don’t find dramatic filmmaking more inherently exciting than Adam Sandler and Kevin James sitting around on lawnchairs drinking beer? Or Jason Lee and Ben Affleck bickering in a cramped room? Other than the Coens, what other comedy directors have any filmmaking chops whatsoever, that you would ever want to revisit the movies? Maybe early John Landis? Todd Phillips’s movies aren’t total eyesores, Jason Reitman has a good look… But really, you don’t find comedy to be the single most boring– cinematically– genre of film ever?

  32. christian says:

    Yeah, Woody Allen sucks.

  33. LexG says:

    Woody Allen is a genius. And one of my all-time idols.
    But shouldn’t anyone on earth ever, ever, get more excited about New Scorsese than New Woody?

  34. christian says:

    No, bi-polar boy.

  35. LexG says:

    And, really, Christian, shouldn’t you be peddling your Schwinn like a Fisher Stevens-haired, Patchouli-stinking version of Danny Noonan down to some Greenpeace march to protect the endangered seals of the Baltic Sea, then setting flame to all your money as you huddle around your Westside Zapatista campfire (naturally funded by your wealthy parents!)

  36. christian says:

    How could your stand up career have fizzled with Rush Limbaugh circa 1993 zingers like that?

  37. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    Women aren’t funny?
    Exhibit A: Julie Hagerty in AIRPLANE. Try and imagine that movie being so good without her. If they gave awards for that type of thing, she’d be among the first. An all-time great female performance in a comedy. She stands toe to toe with Leslie Neilson, and sucks-off a balloon, and she pulls it all of pitch-fucking-perfect. That is a legendary and underrated performance.
    I hate GLEE, but just seeing Jane Lynch’s mug appear cracks me up. She steals Role Models like freaking master thief.
    “Know what I had for breakfast? COCAINE!”
    And I know she is a divisive, love/hate personality but Sarah Silverman kills me. I’m a devotee. The 3rd (final) season of the Comedy Central program was mostly crap, aside from the Patton Oswalt episode, and the one where her imaginary childhood friend reappears. But I think the woman is funny, and is good for at least 2 laughs a day on Twitter.
    Also, Silverman has tremendous boobs.
    Anna Farris? Underrated comic actress.
    And Lex, bad comedy is WAY worse than bad suspense. Using Grown Ups as your example above wasn’t well thought out. Nobody would disagree that they’d rather watch a bad action or suspense movie over a bad comedy.
    But great comedies are so rare that they are almost like miracles. There is no solid formula for a good comedy like there is for action or horror.

  38. IOv2 says:

    Christian, there’s ways to avoid the hammer. If you go; “Raising Arizona is the best and I like Lebowski the least”, that screams you are not being a jerk. The way you posted it, comes across as so jerkish, that it’s amazing to me that it came from a rainbow of joy and sunshine such as yourself.
    Lex rules, Jeff is JD Harmeyer, and that’s that.

  39. christian says:

    I just posted my opine. You have no street cred when it comes to expressing yourself civilly IO, and your props to Lex just highlight that.
    Oh, and AVATAR was a HUGE HIT you old hater.

  40. Nicol D says:

    Catherine O’Hara, Andrea Martin, Lucille Ball, Katherine Hepburn, Marisa Tomei, Shelley Long, Anna Farris, Goldie Hawn, Meg Ryan, Diane Keaton, Geena Davis, Meryl Streep, Gilda Radner, Sally Field, Kathleen Turner, Kaitlin Olsen, Lily Tomlin, Whoopi Goldberg, Gracie Allen, Carol Burnett, Jane Curtin and Imogene Cocoa all disagree with you.
    And let’s not forget Bea Arthur who had more acerbic edge than most men on a bitter day.

  41. IOv2 says:

    Christina I have been more civil over the months than you have. You also once again, like the tiresome old yenta that you are, hold a grudge over stuff that happened months ago. Seriously, get over hurt and move on. I got over it but I will lay the hammer down when anyone is being a jerk and you sir are a jerk, Leah is epically angry on this board about anything that makes her butt itch, and Jeff is an intolerant piece of trash. If it’s you three or Lex. I will always go with Lex.

  42. leahnz says:

    jane lynch is classic in ‘role models’. and mcdormand is terrif in ‘blood simple’, just fresh-faced and cute as a button with a glint in her eye. she and hadeya sizzle it up. what a bloodbath, gotta love those c brothers and their criminal minds

  43. leahnz says:

    oh and io, piss off, twizzle stick

  44. leahnz says:

    or is is a swizzle stick? whatever. EPICALLY ANGRY, ARRRGGGGGG!!!!! LEAH SMASH!!!!

  45. christian says:

    No IO, you haven’t. I don’t insult everybody because they don’t agree with my opine. And you give props to a hateful stalker solely because you both have delusions of persecution…

  46. LexG says:

    Set em up and I’ll knock em back:
    Catherine O’Hara: Not funny. Campy.
    Andrea Martin: Not funny. Campy.
    Lucille Ball: NEVER funny; That chocolate conveyor shit is REPULSIVE
    Marisa Tomei: Not a comedienne; Hot
    Shelley Long: Not funny; Mannered
    Anna Farris; HOT. Gets a pass. Okay.
    Goldie Hawn: Cool. Gets a pass.
    Meg Ryan: Not funny.
    Diane Keaton: Wears bad clothes.
    Meryl Streep: HORRRIBLE. EMBARRASSING when trying to be funny. CAMP. If you like Meryl Streep, you are 100000000000000% homosexual.
    Gilda Radner: Love Gene Wilder and SNL, so gets a pass.
    Sally Field: Campy. Annoying. PUNCHLINE = worst movie ever made.
    Kathleen Turner: GAY CAMP. Also fat and blowsy.
    Kaitlin Olsen: I prefer Mary-Kate.
    Lily Tomlin: Moment by Moment is funny.
    Whoopi Goldberg: Did Nicol really include this name?
    Gracie Allen: Who?
    Carol Burnett: Eh, Conway and Korman FUNNIER.
    Jane Curtin: Eh.
    Imogene Cocoa: VAUDEVILLE.

  47. christian says:

    Sandra Bernhard ruined THE KING OF COMEDY too.

  48. LexG says:

    Christian, what, is it National Gay Day or something? Go interview for a job or something, man. Christ knows you need the work, you need the money, and your parents would enjoy NOT bankrolling your deadbeat, unemployable hippie ass for the 24th consecutive years in Los Angeles.

  49. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    I don’t agree with Christian on Lebowski. I don’t recall (by choice) any e-drama between he and other posters, the rivalries, alliances. I don’t remember Christian hitting Joe Leydon with a steal chair and then forming a tag-team with Hopscotch to battle Lex and IO in a steel cage at HotBlogamania V. I went Rowdy Roddy Clean Steve on The Million Dollar Movieman a few threads back, but that’s what the script told me to do.
    I do know Leahnz and Lex will not be having cake together anytime soon, but I like them both for different reasons.
    My point, finally: isn’t jumping on Christian because he said he doesn’t like Lebowski the same as…oh….maybe…the subject of about 57 blogs lately?? Armond on Toy Story. The Inception thing with Goldstein.
    Hell, I said Raising Arizona was “the apex of human achievement” or something, and was expecting a Tweet from Poland about how this rave had him worried about seeing the movie again (good-natured rib there, David).
    Saying he liked TBL the least might not fit what he feels. What if he doesn’t like something at all?? If there are 5 guys, and I get prison-raped by one of them, I’m not going to say “i like the guy that raped me the least.”
    I know it’s not unique to bring the movie up but I never say “of all Robin Williams movies I like PATCH ADAMS the least.” I FUCKING hate it. Yes, it’s Patch Adams. And yes, it’s Big Lebowski. But I’d wager there millions out there who like Patch, maybe more than Lebowski.
    I get as irritated by hyperbole, or statements that are just black and white. But we all do it, and in some cases it means less than you make it out to be. Like this one.

  50. christian says:

    Lex, you just posted a laundry list of “unfunny” women and you j’accuse me of needing work?

  51. LexG says:

    Christian, seriously, fuck off.
    And you use “j’accuse” too much. And for someone who CLAIMS to be a professional writer of some sort, you might wanna brush up on your punctuation skillz.

  52. christian says:

    Lex, don’t you have somebody else to stalk?

  53. LexG says:

    What is this “stalk” shit, bitch? Where does that even come from? Some pretty irresponsible and hateful crap to be throwing out for no reason. But keep taking the high road, just like Obama would do, right? Keep true to your pacifist liberal sensitivies and keep bringing the class, C.D.

  54. leahnz says:

    aw, who’s angry now? i’m accused of being ‘angry’ when i’m just having a laugh, and the boys on here who are ALWAYS angry get a free pass. hmmm…

  55. christian says:

    I never mentioned your name until you showed up to attack me as is your sad style. Of course you’re a stalker. Here’s some of the bon mots you left at my blog (in case you need them back):
    Fuck it, this fucking blog sucks dick anyway.
    Fucking total shithole run by a closeted eunech and probably 44-year-old virgin.
    Fuck this place, fuck you. BITCH.
    DO IT

  56. LexG says:

    Hahahahahaha! Those are some great lines. #4 however should absolutely filed under NON-FICTION, in describing your blog.
    I know you think that’s some great GOTCHA! moment or something, but, really, since you moderate your lousy blog worse than Big Hollywood, it only tells one side of the story, and cleverly omits the dozens of times you’ve been a condescending ass or deleted my posts, allowing you to present yourself as some West Hollywood Gandhi.

  57. christian says:

    So I made you post? Wow. You really are a victim.

  58. WillRiel (aka CleanSteve) says:

    If anyone doubts Lex is just taking the piss, look at this again:
    “Katherine Hepburn: REPULSIVE, HORRIBLE ACTRESS”
    Maybe he truly believes that. I don’t know. But what I did get from that list was remembering how badly I had a teen hard-on for Geena Davis. Could we call her role in The Accidental Tourist “the original Pixie Girl role? Or has somebody already made that observation.
    Lex did say one thing I was interested in regarding comedy filmmaking chops. Looking back, I agree on Landis and Reitman. Not everything, but I’ll take 3 AMIGOS over most anything (“It’s…..A SWEATER!!”). Z.A.Z up to and including the first Naked Gun. Although I gotta admit Zucker’s BASEketball has become a personal cult favorite.
    But what modern filmmakers are the type to bring you out for their comedy chops? Apatow, of course, is probably the big name. Not everyone likes him. Fine. I personally offer Wes Anderson, but might get punched or called a Fisher Stevens looking hipster, and I’m not. I’m a Bruce Willis looking hipster. Fantastic Mr. Fox made me laugh more than any movie last year.
    Comedy auteur are few and far between. Woody being the biggest, notwithstanding recent failures. Adam McKay, maybe, but he’s just the guy standing behind Will Ferrell to 99% of the country. Kevin Smith, not even close but I admit to liking a few of his movies.
    Anyway…I just got a direct Tweet back from Kathryn Calder of The New Pornographers, thanking me for calling her new solo album beautiful. I need to go masturbate.

  59. IOv2 says:

    “No IO, you haven’t. I don’t insult everybody because they don’t agree with my opine. And you give props to a hateful stalker solely because you both have delusions of persecution…”
    Christian, again, you are just flat out wrong. No one has ever been treated worse on this blog than me and that gives me every single god given right to unleash hell on this blog and everyone who post here. Do I? Nah because I am not a vindicative ass like you people, who get your feelings hurt, and never stop crying about.
    Sure, you can hold onto the hate and the misinformation if you want Christian, but it only makes you look like a genuine ignoramus. If that’s who you want to be represented as on this blog then good for you, but excuse me for being repulsed by it.
    Oh Leah, you couldn’t handle me on your best day. Apparently you have a Santa fetish. Hope that works out for you. You are also ALWAYS ANGRY and you are NEVER GIVEN A PASS. Not only do you butcher everyone’s eyes with your god awful way of posting on this board but you also act like jerk to everyone. That’s how you are and David even had to remind you of that the other day.
    Seriously, what do you add Leah? Nothing. What does Christian add? NOTHING. Two zero point zero posters with zero point zero personalties that add zero point zero to post counts unlike Lex and I, who can produce triple numbers unlike anyone on this board.
    Oh yeah, AVATAR STILL SUCKS CHRISTIAN! Yeah that reads right. Who would not love a seven foot cat fellating them? Most people but we have to exclude Leah and Chris from that discussion because they would love those usb tails shoved where the sun certainly does not shine.

  60. leahnz says:

    io…never go full retard

  61. IOv2 says:

    Leah, never lose that charm. Oh wait, if you did you might find a man. Oh who are we kidding, Chaz Bono is the one you have you heart set on. Never stop believing you cold withered wench. NEVER STOP!

  62. leahnz says:

    gasp! the sexism!
    io, y-y-y-you m-m-m-make me s-s-sad

  63. IOv2 says:

    What sexism? You are an ass that just happens to have a vagina. Much like Jeff, you think using RETARD is funny, when it’s not. You also think that the way you post is clever, when it’s not.

  64. Joe Straat says:

    Good to know that I’m gone on a week’s vacation and missed absolutely nothing.

  65. LexG says:

    At the risk of unleashing an all-lowercase eyesore of fury, I’m gonna suggest Leahnz has gotten angrier over time.
    I’ve been on here four years, and can distinctly remember the old days where I’d be on super late, usually insulting McDouche, but Leah was always on and seemed like this cool, salty, fun chick who it was enjoyable to spar with but mostly just talk about old movies or cool actors or mullets. Hard to believe it now, but there certainly wasn’t any animosity back then… I’d look forward to refreshing and seeing her latest screed. She even had kind of a calming effect on the many laughable fever-pitched, lame squabbles between me and Jeff, me and Perm, IO and everybody, etc.
    To the degree to which I care, I sometimes wonder what went wrong and where. I could be absolutely delusional in saying this, but I think I have gotten NICER or less crazy on the Hot Blog as time has gone on. Go back and look up my 2007-2008 ALL-CAPS idiocy, and it’s a fucking miracle Poland ever extended a hand. IO always just kind of did his enthusiastic good-cheer thing, and it set people off, and he’d return in kind… But he’s mellowed somewhat with time.
    But somewhere around AVATAR time, Leah went into full BIG JIM EXPRESS! mode and the fervor and intensity were startling. But, hey, she says it’s all a big laugh, so yeah, sometimes tone can be taken all wrong. Anyway, no point to that, other than ask of Leah at what point this animosity got out of control… You used to be somewhat bemused and even semi-supportive, saying nice things and all… somehow it went from that to “tiny weenie! blubber! moonface!” and making it out like I’m some jerk, instead of how INCREDIBLY AWESOME and likeable I am.

  66. Joe Leydon says:

    Anything interesting going on in this thread? No? Didn’t think so. Back to Keith Olbermann. He’s really got Glenn Beck in the crosshairs tonight. “The Jews killed Christ…” Right, Glenn.

  67. hcat says:

    Olbermann’s show might actually be calming after reading this thread.
    Raising Arizona remains one of the best theater experiences I ever had and I was only there for half the movie. I was in middle school and went with a bunch of friends to see a movie and I was outvoted, we went to see My Demon Lover of all things, I convinced them to sneak into RA after ours was done and I immediatly fell in love.
    After watching No Country I couldn’t help but think of Barden and Cobbs characters as some distant cousins.

  68. hcat says:

    Steve – I was watching the Little Fockers trailer and got a small amount of satisfaction in that it was obvious that Stiller and DeNiro were as bored making it as I was watching it.

  69. hcat says:

    and just as a point of reference to an above post (and because I am bored) my ‘religious’ movie experiences have been:
    Star Wars
    Raising Arizona
    Pulp Fiction (this hasn’t aged as well as the others for me, but really had an advantage due to when it was released. Hollywood has never seemed as Hollywood to me than the Summer of 94. Some great movies but they were all so polished. After Speed, Lion King, and Gump, pulp was like a colonic)
    And I just realized after posting that I mispelled Bardim’s name. I have got to either type or drink slower.

  70. chris says:

    Sorry, hcat. Wrong again.

  71. IOv2 says:

    I remember seeing Pulp Fiction when it finally came to Memphis and there being all of eight people in theatre. The same thing, oddly enough, happened when I saw The Big Lebowski.

  72. hcat says:

    I was a projectionist at a theater in the fall of 96 and we got the English Patient after it had gotten rave reviews and was touted as an Oscar front runner. It played for two weeks to empty theaters. Three Months later the oscar nominations were announced and I can’t tell you how many indignent customers would come up and complain that we weren’t showing EP.

  73. Anghus Houvouras says:

    i remember seeing English Patient in a near empty theater with a couple of friends. i was wretching while i watched it. i loathed every melodramatic moment. the two girls that went with me wouldnt stop crying as the credits rolled.

  74. A. E. Ase says:

    There are few things more agreable on a weekday morning than reading the Hotblog wars with breakfast
    What’s amazing is that after all these years some of you guys still aren’t bored of being at each others throats
    This thread is prbly dead but i’d like to offer up Tina Fey’s Palin impersonation as proof of female funny. Palin is funny as well I guess. Well not haha funny but still

  75. BrandonS says:

    Tina Fey herself is the only proof necessary of female funny. She knows how to write for herself, which is not as obvious as it probably sounds.

  76. Triple Option says:

    Joan Rivers. Cheryl Underwood. Paula Poundstone. Marsha Warfield. Laura Kightlinger.

  77. Cadavra says:

    Lex, you’re very fortunate I’m on the East Coast right now or I’d have to pound you into chicken broth for disrespecting my woman, the one and only true goddess, HRH Miss Holly Hunter. On your knees and beg forgiveness, boy!

  78. Cadavra says:

    Lex, you’re very fortunate I’m on the East Coast right now or I’d have to pound you into chicken broth for disrespecting my woman, the one and only true goddess, HRH Miss Holly Hunter. On your knees and beg forgiveness, boy!

  79. Cadavra says:

    Apologies for the double post; I’m at my hotel and am unfamiliar with a Mac.

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon