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It’s A Commercial… But It’s Fun To Remember Those HP7 Kids As Kids

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8 Responses to “It’s A Commercial… But It’s Fun To Remember Those HP7 Kids As Kids”

  1. anghus says:

    2 movies? Seriously? Had they not wrung enough cash out of this franchise?

  2. IOv3 says:

    Anghus, read the last book. The last book demanded to be made into two movies. The fans (Hello, ME!) also demanded it be made into two books unlike Breaking Dawn, which needs to be a 30 min film involving only sex and vampire fighting.

  3. leahnz says:

    i’m excited for the grand finale(s). i’ve read every HP book out loud to my boy starting when he was just a wee nipper, he’s grown up with harry, hermione, ron and the gang – both the novel and film versions – and it feels like our grand adventure together is now coming to a bitter-sweet end.

    and as much as there have been times i’d like to throttle JK rowling for her difficult-to-read-out-loud stilted prose and long-windedness in need of pruning by a stern editor with a sharp scalpel (getting thru the incredibly thick and at times excruciatingly dull ‘order of the phoenix’ out loud nearly killed me), i’ve found myself more than once sitting on the boy’s bed in that little pool of lamplight with a tear in my eye for a beloved character having died in our imaginations, our hearts having been so drawn into that wondrous wizarding world and the epic but very personal, difficult and selfless battle to save it from the ravages of evil totalitarianism in the name of love, family and freedom.

    in my eyes the HP films have varied in degrees of excellence from competent to brilliant, but overall they’ve grown in stature as consistently decent adaptations and compelling family entertainment, having taken on a life of their own and destined to go down in cinema history as one of the most successful and beloved fantasy film franchises/series, surely. i do hope they really wrap it all up with a compelling bang for the gang, anticipation is setting in.

    —– spoilers ———
    speaking of bang, i have no idea where the production has split the story, but there’s a certain point about half-way thru the novel after the trinity – back together again – escapes the set-up/attack of the death eaters at the lovegood residence in a rather spectacular fashion that seems like a natural place for an ‘intermission’, as the story changes tack a bit from that point on. i wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the spot, but of course i don’t know how the story has been adapted for the screen so i could be totally wrong there. i think one thing is certain re: ‘deathly H’ part 1: be prepared to spend a good deal of time in a tent.

  4. IOv3 says:

    I always figured they would end part one when they find Luna in the basement.

  5. Michael. says:

    SPOILER
    They’re ending it with Voldemort taking the elder wand from Dumbledore.

    Okay, I’m a geek. Whatever.

  6. anghus says:

    never read the books. loathed the first 2 movies. loved azkaban. loved goblet of fire. order of the phoenix and half blood prince were remarkably average.

    i know people who have explained why the final book deserves 2 pictures, but i also know the same people told me they have cut so many large chunks and subplots from the series already that giving them time to wrap everything up seems kind of unnecessary.

  7. IOv3 says:

    Anghus, some book fans are a bit ridiculous when it comes to what is cut and not cut in these films. I have had discussions with them and they want the most mundane stuff in there and the conversations with these people always leave me wondering why some folks lack the ability to learn the word; “ADAPTATION.”

    Nevertheless, The Deathly Hallows, unlike Goblet, OotP, and The Half-Blood Prince, is not a book with a lot of padding. This leaves use with one long book that’s super economical with it’s story, even if it’s long, and that’s why you need two movies. Without the two movies, a lot of story would be cut out, and that would just ruin one amazing story.

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