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Saturday 2 LA

So we are in the middle on nowhere in Utah, nursing.

Sundance is near an end and OscarVille sings its siren song.

Box office, from the Blackberry, is neither great not horrible. The Oscar movies are strong, as The King’s Speech goes to the front of the pack this weekend, passing True Grit, though Grit still has a pretty unsurpassable $80m lead. Black Swan will probably pass $90m this weekend, just ahead of The Fighter on the day, but about $10m ahead domestically. By next weekend, Swan will pass The Social Network’s box office, the 4th film in the race to do so. Both The Fighter and The King’s Speech will probably get there by mid-Feb too.

And now, back to the Utah highways…

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79 Responses to “Saturday 2 LA”

  1. JKill says:

    So THE RITE was pretty fun…Hopkins seems to be having a blast, it’s quite classically filmed and surprisingly thoughtful, although the 3rd act gets a bit too generic, considering the rather subdued, even classy set-up. Not up to the director’s pretty awesome 1408, but good and worth seeing, in my opinion.

  2. Joe Leydon says:

    Actually, The Rite was indeed a pleasant surprise in many respects. I was a bit surprised by the vehement tone of some reviews. I can understand not liking the film, but sheesh.

  3. Joe Leydon says:

    Hello! Anyone out there?

  4. Foamy Squirrel says:


  5. anghus says:

    hooray. i finally get to see blue valentine and 127 hours this weekend. thank you academy screeners.

  6. IOv3 says:

    wow I can go see them… IN A THEATRE! Also, big ups to Sundance for rewarding SENNA with an audience prize. About time those folks rewarded a doc with some true beauty in it. That would be Senna’s driving in case you folks don’t know.

  7. Joe Leydon says:

    A few of my Hispanic students tell me they saw commercials for From Prada to Nada on Spanish-language TV. But I didn’t see any publicity for it, outside of some lobby posters. Wonder if they missed a chance to get crossover biz?

  8. LYT says:

    THE RITE is boring as shit. Nothing happens for 40 minutes. What does happen is EXORCIST lite. Then a reasonably interesting performance by Hopkins falls into his usual over-the-top rut.

    Plus the devil’s plan makes absolutely no sense. If he loves when people don’t believe in him, why expend so much effort to convince a skeptic, who will then be stronger in the faith Satan hates?

    See MR. FROST for a way to play that dilemma correctly.

  9. IOv3 says:

    Tom Hooper won the DGA. I am very fine with this but what we are looking at is what, The King’s Speech winning 8 or 9 awards? The fact that it’s so over the weekend after the noms came out, is just mind-boggling. Typical but still mind-boggling.

  10. Telemachos says:

    So is anyone excited about KING’S SPEECH (presumed) sweep? In a year where it seemed like a good opportunity to spread the wealth around, seems like one film is gonna clean up — and (IMHO) one of the weakest of the 10 nominees. DRIVING MISS DAISY revisited. Oh well.

  11. IOv3 says:

    It’s not Driving Miss Daisy revisited. The class between the men is not even that important and they use it to make like three jokes, culminating in Logue sitting in the throne. Seriously, outside of everything that came out last year, outside of my love of TL and SP, that’s my third fave movie. It’s just tremendous and it winning makes sense because as I stated before; IT’S THE PERFECT OSCAR FILM!

    Now, Tele M, how should the wealth be spread around? I am just curious.

  12. Telemachos says:

    You mean if I got to be dictator of the Oscars? Inception (Picture), Fincher (Director), Firth (Actor), Portman (Actress), Bale (Supporting), Steinfeld or Leo (Supporting), Sorkin (Adapted Script), Nolan (Original Script), Deakins (Cinematography, TRUE GRIT), Baxter/Walls (Editing, SOCIAL NETWORK)…. is that enough? I’d love to squeeze some 127 HOURS love in there somewhere, but it goes runner-up in a few categories for me.

    It’s not that I didn’t like KING’ SPEECH, I enjoyed it well enough. It’s a nice sweet little movie. It just — to me — was so less interesting than, well, most of the other nominees, for a variety of reasons… and most of them were also more daring/intriguing from an Oscar perspective as well. So KING’S SPEECH’s (presumed) pile of Oscars is a double-whammy: it’ll be a huge reward to a film that I think falls short of many others, and it virtually guarantees a greater flood of would-be Oscar-bait movies. I would’ve much rather the Academy continued its recent trend of rewarding “un-Oscar-y” movies as Best Picture. But eh, it’ll just be more of the same.

  13. sanj says:

    there really is no way to spread the wealth around with wins. The noms are for that.

    Anghus— get ready to be fucked up for days after watching “Blue Valentine”… meaning this in the best most macchhio “i kiiiillled him” sort of way.

    i really like how the movies this year are fascinated with seeing their main characters unravel— whether it be portmans psychosexual nuclear falldown, Mattie experiencing what will be her last definable story/moment and losing her narrative necessity, or the Zuck losing all human characteristics/friends. Perhaps that is why the King’s Speech will win: because it shows the main character pulling himself together. people like to feel good and shit

    yall emo out tonight and watch a lot of miley cyrus

    dave— how many women interviewees have you slept with? How many women have you slept with in your ENTIRE LIFE? Is it true that you have slept with everyone included?… AND WHAT IS THIS I HEAR ABOUT YOU AND ERTHA KITT?!?!?

    we need answers…

    PS— will you be releasing dvds of DP/30? I think you should release them around awards season to influence people

  14. Al says:

    What happened to you Sann? You were a one or two sentence post type of guy. Then shortly around the time YEP YEP left you went all ShKespeare on our asses!

    (is DP30 a gateway drug?)

  15. IOv3 says:

    Tele M (yes, I see you as a sentai character!), that would work for me and it would be cool if Oscar could spread the wealth around, but that seems to be the point of the noms. It is an HONOR to be NOMINATED after all.

    That aside; King’s Speech is just an Oscar movie though. It’s not the greatest film ever made nor does it have to be, to appeal to those folks. Yes they are old and not with it but TKS speaks to what movies are to them: very accessible stories, about people helping people, but on a staggering level. Again, the profundity of this movie cannot be brushed aside simply because King George rallied his country with those speeches. The work those two men did, mattered, and that means a lot to the Academy. The fact that an actor helped a King learn how to speak properly, doesn’t hurt either.

    All of that stated, the Academy has to change, and we really need to live in a world where something like Inception can have a legitimate shot at Best Picture. It has less to do with Nolan but more with this ridiculous absurdity that the Academy seems to have held since THE BLOCKBUSTER, that BIG FILMS lack profundity. I have no clue how to explain the LOTR series in all of this but outside of those films, something like Inception apparently has little correlation to the human condition, and rewarding it with an Oscar would be going against the whole TKS spiel above. This of course would be ignoring that at the heart of Inception, it’s about catharsis, and one person helping another, but it made too much so that doesn’t matter.

    The Top 10 works, because it lets the Academy acknowledge that one big film a year, and that’s the point. The really good BIG FILM just needs to win at some point, and that will probably have very little chance of happening until the median age of the Academy gets slightly young.

    Seriously though, how in the hell did Gladiator and the LOTR movies get rewarded like they did? That still blows my mind that we live in a world, were LOTR films are seen as these mind blowing epics, but the Harry Potter movies are not. This makes me wonder if the Academy will throw them a bone with Pt. 2? Doubtful but it would be cool if it happened.

    ETA: It’s good to know that Zuckerberg could buy and sell me 145,000 times, but I AM TALL ENOUGH TO BLOCK OUT THE SUN IF IS STOOD BEHIND HIM! KNEEL! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

  16. leahnz says:

    i wasn’t sure before but now it’s clear, sanj has been lex all along. sybil.

  17. IOv3 says:

    Yeah, I am not sure if you folks have noticed, but Lex isn’t a schtick of himself anymore. He’s just a guy and that guy would most likely not be a woman on this board.

  18. leahnz says:

    what does that mean, io? that you think sanj is female and not lex? (don’t want to dwell on it off topic, just wondering, i didn’t understand your comment above. i know scoot already called it in the other thread and i think he got it right re: lex/sanj. i’d bet $ on it cuz i’m psychic friends network)

  19. IOv3 says:

    Leah, it’s not him.

    That aside; THEY CAST A BRIT AS SUPERMAN! A FREAKIN BRIT! Nolan and Co. have to be the world’s biggest xenophobic Brits and are pretty much guaranteeing their Superman films will be brushed aside, because casting a Brit is pretty much an affront to Truth, Justice, and THE BRITIS… Oh I am sorry, it’s the AMERICAN WAY. Only an asshole like Nolan could forget that!

  20. cadavra says:

    Well, since they got a Welsh guy playing Batman, it’s at least consistent. 🙂

  21. IOv3 says:

    Cad, BATMAN IS NOT SUPERMAN! BATMAN IS A FUCKING VIGILANTE! SUPERMAN IS TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY! Seriously, I used to support Snyder and Nolan, but fuck them. The sooner that Xenophobic Brit gets away from the DC movies. The better off the DC movies will be.

    Again, you have to be a grand fucking asshole, of epic proportions, to think casting a BRIT, a SHORT FUCKING BRIT, as Superman would be received with opening arms. I hate this so much that if people decide to protest in any way, I am right there in a second.

    Seriously, it didn’t work for Jude Law, and I can’t see it working with this guy either. Nolan just kicked up a shit storm and I am glad the Academy decided to give the Best Director Noms TO AMERICANS! (Yes, Hooper is a Brit, but ROLL WITH IT DAMN IT! RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION BE DAMNED :D!)

  22. Joe Leydon says:

    Oh, I don’t know: They didn’t do badly casting a Brit as Scarlett O’Hara. (Ducks while IO throws Encyclopedia of DC Comics in my direction.)

  23. yancyskancy says:

    We’re getting a Brit Spider-Man, too, y’know. They couldn’t even find an unknown American kid for Kick-Ass. At least Captain America isn’t going to be Orlando Bloom or somebody.

  24. christian says:

    “dave— how many women interviewees have you slept with? How many women have you slept with in your ENTIRE LIFE? Is it true that you have slept with everyone included?… AND WHAT IS THIS I HEAR ABOUT YOU AND ERTHA KITT?!?!?”

    and sanj snaps.

  25. IOv3 says:

    Christian, it’s not him. I don’t know what you get.

    Joe, Yancy: IT’S SUPERMAN! There is no character in all of America as AMERICAN as SUPERMAN! What Snyder, Nolan, and Warners have done with this casting is about as UNAMERICAN as individuals or a corporation can get.

    The fact that an Australian in George Miller, realized casting an American as SUPERMAN was important, shows you just how out of touch WB, Nolan, and Snyder are with casting this short… Brit.

  26. cadavra says:

    By God, IO’s right! This is an outrage! Why, the next thing you know, they’ll be casting Brits as Professor Xavier and Magneto…oh, wait a minute…

  27. IOv3 says:

    Cad, I could give a shit about the X-Men. Seriously, unlike you, I buy comics and the X-men comics are all pretty much ABOMINATIONS. Making another X-Men movie, especially one set in the fuck 60s, means jack fucking all to me and most folks. Again, in discussing the Captain America casting, Feige brought up how important it was to cast an American. The fact that Warners has seemingly gone out of their way to not cast Americans, shows how mercenary this casting is, and how little they give a shit about American box office. They just want to sell their films internationally and do not believe a super-hero movie can be sold with an AMERICAN in the lead, and that’s just anti-American sentiment that the evil fucks at FOX NEWS should call them out on.

  28. cadavra says:

    You’re absolutely right. I just thank God they didn’t cast an American as Inspector Clouseau…

  29. IOv3 says:

    Cad, again, you keep forgetting that SUPERMAN IS AN AMERICAN ICON! HE’S NOT A BRITISH ICON! Casting a Brit again, is nothing more than a way to sell it internationally because apparently people forgot they had a fucking EMPIRE 60 years ago. Seriously, I am taller than this guy, and I should not be TALLER THAN SUPERMAN!

  30. cadavra says:

    Relax, IO, I was just yanking your chain. It’s a rainy Sunday and I needed something to amuse me.

    The serious answer is that at the end of the day, it really shouldn’t matter. If the guy is convincing in the role, that’s the only thing that should count. Yul Brynner wasn’t Siamese, most Othellos were played by white guys, and the best Charlie Chan was a Swede. So a Brit playing–wait a minute–a guy from THE PLANET KRYPTON!!!–doesn’t really bother me very much.

  31. IOv3 says:

    He’s an alien that chose us. He was written by two people who loved this country so much that they created a SUPERMAN, that picked the US as his home and what he chose to represent to the world. That’s a big deal and ignoring it to put some limey dude in that role. Seriously, it’s disgusting. It’s absolutely disgusting to me.

    I will never see it in a theatre, I will constantly bash it on this blog having never seen it, and Snyder and Nolan will get it as well. You don’t cast a Brit for Superman like you would not cast an American Harry Potter. Superman is a character attached to the FLAG. It’s OFFENSIVE, IT’S FUCKING OFFENSIVE, that Warners, Nolan, and Snyder would cast a BRIT as character so synonymous with the STARS AND STRIPES, and that speaks volumes about them as men and as a company. The Warner Brothers are probably rolling in their graves with this casting.

    The fact that the scumbags who now own Warners dumped this news on a Sunday, pretty much shows you that they knew they would cast hell. It’s a shit move and remember my new montra: FUCK SNYDER, FUCK NOLAN, AND FUCK THIS MOVIE!

  32. Joe Leydon says:

    IO: You are a bigot. Seriously. In fact, your ranting reminds me of Rod Steiger’s line in In the Heat of the Night — “Man, you’re just like the rest of us, ain’t ya?”

  33. sanj says:

    sanj says:
    January 30, 2011 at 12:59 am

    yeah i didn’t write that ….also i haven’t seen the kings speech ..

  34. cadavra says:

    The Warner Brothers? You mean the guys who gave us Errol Flynn as Custer, Humphrey Bogart and Paul Muni as Mexicans and Edward G. Robinson and Loretta Young as Chinese, not to mention half a dozen movies with Al Jolson in blackface? AH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!

  35. IOv3 says:

    Joe, HE’S AN AMERICAN ICON! HE’S NOT A BRITISH ICON! The fact that you don’t get that is sort of mind-boggling. It’s funny that you think the Brits are an ethnicity. I am fine with the Brits but how dare Nolan think you can cast one as Superman? He’s just not another character. He’s Superman and making him a Brit is an insult to every fucking American, rather they get it or not. You don’t get it but you at least aren’t selling out the American dream for international box office.

    cad: they still wouldn’t have made SUPERMAN A BRIT!

  36. Joe Leydon says:

    Er, IO: You do know that Mary Pickford, “America’s Sweetheart,” was born in Canada, right? And that Frank Capra, the man who celebrated Americana, was a Sicilian immigrant, right?

  37. IOv3 says:

    Joe, you are such a fucking wuss of a Liberal sometimes. Yeah, two Jewish immigrants decided to make him an AMERICAN for a reason. There is a reason why he represents TRUTH, JUSTICE, and THE AMERICAN WAY. It’s not some bullshit, it’s the reasoning behind Superman’s existence. Go read All-Star Superman, written by a Brit that understands Superman in ways Nolan and Co. never will.

    Again, the fact that you think being pissed about this has something to do with RACISM or PREJUDICE, when it has to do with what the character at his core fundamentally means, makes you a gigantic asshole on this matter. Also, Canada is at least NORTH AMERICAN, and seeing as I come from Sicilian immigrants. You are lucky that I do not throw down on you verbally right this second.

    The fact that they think a BRIT can drape himself in the flag and that everyone should just take, is such a profound bunch of shit, that it pisses me off on a nuclear level. Superman is not a BRIT. FUCK THIS MOVIE, FUCK SNYDER, AND FUCK NOLAN!

  38. Telemachos says:

    I imagine some alternate reality where the internet existed in 1950 and some Mongolian version of IO is screaming bloody murder that John Wayne’s gonna play Genghis Khan.

  39. IOv3 says:

    Tele M, that movie cost the Duke an amazing amounts of pain and suffering before his death. It also killed countless other members of the cast and crew because of where they filmed it, so screaming about it would probably be a good thing, seeing as that movie not existing would have been better for all involved.

  40. Joe Leydon says:

    IO: So what’s next? Your passionate diatribe against Sharia Law? LOL.

  41. IOv3 says:

    Joe, stop being a wuss. He stands for truth, justice, and the American way and these assholes want to give that honor to a BRIT! A BRIT! A country who, when asked in polling, go on about how much they think the US is full of fat assholes. You really want a Brit representing the AMERICAN WAY on screen? Really? Good for you but Supes is not a Brit, fuck this movie, and I really hope the devil hounds of FOX NEWS go after Warners for this decision. It’s so anti-American on Warners part, that it makes one understand why they dumped it on a Sunday morning.

  42. Joe Leydon says:

    Actually, I don’t think the “American way” business was emphasized in the last Superman flick. Wasn’t that something that got our favorite right-wing Canadian poster’s panties in a bunch?

  43. I happen to think that the Lord of the Rings movies represent the best, most exciting, most entertaining, etc bit of filmmaking in the just-finished decade. Felt that way in 2001, 2002, and 2003 and, slight issues with Two Towers aside, I still do today, both as a spectacle and a human drama. Harry Potter struggled under the shadow of Lord of the Rings for the first few films, before being respected as its own supremely accomplished franchise around film five (where they took the worst book and made one of the best, if not the best, movie out of it). I’d say that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part I is the first truly GREAT Harry Potter film, but I’ll gladly place the series next to Star Wars and Lord of the Rings for its sheer consistent quality over the last decade. And of all the big-budget fantasy franchises, Harry Potter was the one that most favored character development and acting to action spectacle, which is something to be admired. To be at-least very good for eight (we hope) straight films, to keep the same cast (minus Richard Harris) intact and sane for this long, to keep the visual consistency while playing director musical chairs… Harry Potter is indeed worthy of every accolade you could throw at it, and I do hope that the finale (assuming it’s as good as part 7) gets some Oscar recognition. On that, IOv3 and I agree. As for a Brit as Clark Kent, well he wasn’t an American per-se to begin with, so we’ll see…

  44. IOv3 says:

    Scott, he wasn’t a Kryptonian either. He comes from Krypton but he’s all-American. Good to know there is a critic out there that has some respect for the HP franchise.

    Joe, Warners seems to just have a problem with selling AMERICA overseas and that’s why that line was cut in Supes Returns. Disagree with me all you want but if they cast an African American, Asian American, or Hispanic American today, I would not be pissed. I would state that it was a different take but that’s it. Why? THEY ARE AMERICANS!

    Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Obviously Nolan and Snyder are not making a Superman movie about the American Way and thus cast a Brit in the role, and that really makes me nauseous.

  45. Joe Leydon says:

    Does this mean Brandon Routh will now be known as the George Lazenby of Supermen?

  46. IOv3 says:

    Nah. I have a feeling, more of a hope really, that Routh will get another shot at the cape… one day.

  47. Considering how many were gunning for Cavill to get the role back in 2005-ish, I’d imagine that Brandon Routh is the Timothy Dalton of the series, who took the role (quite successfully in my opinion) in a darker, moodier place when everyone was really hoping Pierce Brosnan would get it, only to quickly lose it (through no real fault of his own) and have the original choice, Brosnan, get the part years down the line. I kinda hate Superman Returns (“How dare that bitch Lois Lane move on with her life after I take off for five years without even a note! Woe is ME!”), but its not Routh’s fault that he was forced to basically mimic Christopher Reeve. His one scene that is his own, his speech at (SPOILER’S) bedside, is terrific.

  48. Joe Leydon says:

    As I have said elsewhere: I know I’m in a very small minority on this, but I think Timothy Dalton is the greatest James Bond ever.

  49. Let me also add that The Living Daylights is the best pure spy adventure in the 007 cannon outside of From Russia With Love. It’s so complicated that the only way not to be a little confused is if you happen to recognize the actors (“Oh, it’s Sallah/Gimli/Macbeth! Oh, it’s the guy who hired the other guy to kill Richard Kimble’s wife!”). The last desert-adventure reel, where Bond teams up with the future-Taliban (like Rambo a year later) is a bit out of place, but the rest of the movie is pure espionage gold. And yes, Licence to Kill still kicks all sorts of butt. I’m not going to bag on Brosnan, as Goldeneye is my favorite 007 movie period, and I love most of The World is Not Enough and the first half of Tomorrow Never Dies, but the two-film Dalton run is an almost accidental hiccup of brilliance.

  50. IOv3 says:

    Joe, on that, we agree.

  51. Hallick says:

    If there is some kind of “Superman” curse, wouldn’t it please you IO to see it befall a British actor rather than an American one? Or is that the risk an American should be taking?

    Are you really willing to put more American lives in danger in the name of on-the-nose casting! I say, HOW DARE YOU SIR!


  52. christian says:

    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS is easily, unarguably one of the best Bond films, and in many ways the truest to Ian Fleming’s character, particularly the opening assassination scene.

  53. Joe Straatmann says:

    If you imagine IO’s current temper tantrum in this voice, it’s a lot more entertaining:

  54. IOv3 says:

    Oh yeah, modern Supes was technically born here via the birthing matrix. That’s another point about this stupid fucking casting that can be thrown out the window.

    ETA: Wow Joe, that’s some epic level NERD BULLSHIT you pulled there. I have no idea if I should face palm or applaud you.

    Nevertheless, DC’s utter anti-American stance with their comic book movies, really makes me appreciate the 619 that much more. Seriously, every character in a Marvel movie that’s supposed to be an American is played by an American, and they even turned down Emily Blunt! Even though technically she is an American now because of her husband! MAKE MINE MARVEL!

  55. IOv3 says:

    Always stirring shit as always sir but, Superman is just the nicer version of the original Superman created by Siegel and Shuster in 1933. Cracked isn’t exactly known for their journalism.

  56. Foamy Squirrel says:

    How dare you impugn Cracked’s good name. HOW DARE YOU?!?!?

    (and, for the record, this time I am indeed just yanking said chains)

  57. Joe Straatmann says:

    I get called on NERD BULLSHIT by someone who’s been bitching about the casting of Superman for the past 12 hours and damning the director they’ve spent the past 2 years worshipping.

    *Pot walks in and sees kettle at the party* HOLY SHIT, YOU’RE BLACK!

  58. IOv3 says:


    Seriously, nerd, you referenced Yu Gi Oh. Embrace your nerdiness already, NERD!

    ETA: If… Cavill… his name disgusts me, didn’t get the role. It would have gone to Matthew Goode. FUCK YOU TOO, SNYDER!

  59. Martin S says:

    IO, I get the hostility, but you where were you when Singer and his…writing partners…gutted Superman and openly admitted to it. They explained in HR they didn’t want him to be represent America, but to be seen as an international symbol, and Metropolis could stand-in for any large cosmopolitan. Singer’s identification to Superman was so personalized it had no connection to Siegel and Shuster. The same with Burton’s scuttled interpretation.

    As for Marvel, Fiege is just as guilty if not moreso of selling Captain America out to pander to the international audience. When the word of the Invaders first leaked, it was apparent the motivation; to make Cap just one in an iHOP super soldier coalition. When Fiege got called out on it, Johnston copped to it during shooting. Now, they’ve dropped the pretense by changing the overseas title. All that’s left is an overseas re-edit.

    The thing is, I hate it when it occurs in reverse.

    “Americans won’t understand Oldboy! Get Will Smith!”.

    “Japanese horror? What about screaming white chicks?!”

  60. Joe Straatmann says:

    Oh, I embrace the nerdiness. I’ve written articles for the now-defunct Wizard magazine and its sister magazine Anime Insider (I was just an intern and a fairly crappy one at that. It was before I had a decent work ethic down). It’s a miracle I’ve ever gotten laid.

  61. anghus says:

    i used to be on the “fuck the oldboy remake” bandwagon.

    but after reading all 8 volumes of Oldboy, you could do an American version and make it completely different. A lot of the more dark turns of the story aren’t in the original manga.

    The manga is fantastic. a much slower burn.

    i love the movie. but i love the manga too. they are very different. An American version wouldn’t be a terrible idea if they did a faithful adaptation of the manga.

  62. IOv3 says:

    Joe, I commend you on getting laid, and what do you think about the Wizard situation?

    M-S: They were responding to mid-oughties America and you get why they did that right? Superman is so American that they didn’t want to have a Superman associated with Dubya and the country at that point. Now, the world is different and Americans are in a different place, and how do they respond to where Americans are now? With a British Superman. Thanks for not thinking us worthy of starring as are own ICON, SNYDER (Fucking Wisconsin people) and NOLAN (Obviously he’s the scumbag everyone has proclaimed him to be, yay)!

    Seriously, this casting is so damn disgusting that it has taken me all day to get over being angry from it, but I sure as hell look forward to ignoring the shit out of this movie’s existence. I also look forward to the comic-con panel. THERE WILL BE… JUSTICE!

  63. Martin S says:

    Anghus, I’m with you on Oldboy…but you know that’s not the motivation.

    Maybe the Host is a better example. Like Ringu, you really can’t improve on it, just translate it, and even then, you lose something. Like John Woo. His style made sense when it was produced in Hong Kong because the cultural differences added a unique dimension. But bring him to the states, and it’s crappy Peckinpah.

    The latest example is that Bolly film, Robot. It has some crazy sci-fi approaches floating throughout but it works because Bolly films are choreography to begin with, and the battle sequences are mostly an extension of that thought process. So if you strip the Indian film culture for a remake, all you’re left with is some visual non-sequiturs that will make an American audience mentally checklist Terminator, Matrix and Transformers… but I’m sure we’ll be reading about someone buying the remake rights soon enough.

  64. Martin S says:

    IO…If you’re concerned with what the character is supposed to represent, politics of the day shouldn’t matter.

    I’m fully irked by Marvel’s bedwetting over having to produced a movie with the word “America” in the title, but I’ve been pissed about their approach to Cap for close to a decade. Avi Arad held off on Cap, for years, because he was afraid of conflating Hydra with modern-day terrorism. Now, after they’ve gone all in, they’re still afraid the South Koreans(!) won’t show up.

    Look at Iron Man. They’ve been sphincter-locked over The Mandarin since day one, which is why they’ve perpetually gone with evil corporate white Americans who exploit ill-advantaged foreigners into their villains. The odds of the Mandarin on film being Asian-American and not actually Chinese, is 2-1. Look no further than Julian McMahon’s Dr. Doom. They hired an Australian actor to play an Eastern Euro gypsie-tyrant, but as an American.

    Cowards, my man. They are all cowards.

  65. IOv3 says:

    Martin, you are full of shit, but that was a good rant anyway :D!

  66. Joe Straatmann says:

    IO, my thoughts are about the same as about anyone you’ll find who worked there. Despite a few loose nuts, the editorial staff were great and talented people, and the management was poor. Their editorial policy was also a little too “blow sunshine up everyone’s asses and hide it by using pictures with snarky captions” for me, and I was surprised it lasted as long as it did.

  67. IOv3 says:

    Joe, thanks for sharing. Seriously.

  68. Al says:

    So just so I understand IO does this mean you retroactively hate Inception an will boycott Bat3 as well as Supes?

  69. IOv3 says:

    I am boycotting Supes and this is not retroactive to anything. Think of me as Ed Asner discovering that I am working with a Republican. I have turned my back on Snyder and Nolan and from here on out, they better knock it out of the park, or out come the knives! Seriously, Nolan and the fucking Cheesehead obviously do not get Superman. If they did, they would have never cast this guy.

  70. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    Snyder may be a hack but there is nothing wrong with being a Cheesehead.

  71. IOv3 says:

    Paul, are you a fucking cheesehead :D?

  72. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    I don’t live in WI now but I was born there and lived in WI most of my life.

  73. IOv3 says:

    Interesting. Being a Cubs fan and a Vikings fan, I have a love/hate relationship with the state of Wisconsin. Luckily though, the Cheeseheads are not as bad as Stealer fans, so here’s to the PACK BRING FORTH PAIN TO MR. LOW-LOAD BIG BEN!

  74. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    I also have a love/hate relationship with Wisconsin. I’m not a Packers fan but I do hope they clobber the Steelers.

  75. cadavra says:

    Anyone wonder how IO feels about Sherlock Holmes being played by Robert Downey Jr.?

  76. Al says:

    I just can’t wait to see when Bat3 begins releasing images and gushing IO battles negaIO for domination. Picture a Gollumish back and forth (i loves it! / but I hates it!) in front of a computer screen, fingers pounding frenetically on a keyboard.

    To be honest IO (and I don’t mean this in an insulting way) but it is fairly comical (hehe) that you feel this much outrage. Over a Suerman film.

  77. christian says:

    And the fact they hired a BRITISH director to over see the originals with Reeve is bad enough. Terence STamp as a KRYPTON SUPERVILLAIN? And I do not know how Susannah York made it to KRYPTON. The SALKINDS fucked up and we are THROUGH. CAPE SCOWL.

  78. IOv3 says:

    Christian, that makes no sense but that’s you, and KNEEL! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD! Again, in the current Superman storytelling, Superman is born here. He is an American, from Kansas, because of the birthing matrix. Take that response outside and suck it :P!

    Cad, are there pictures of Sherlock Holmes draped in the Union Jack? No. Again, HE’S AMERICAN AS APPLE PIE AND THEY CAST A BRIT IN THE ROLE? Shameful.

    Al: you don’t get how fucking pissed off I am by the fucking Cheesehead and Captain fucking Britain. There will be no gushing or praise. Only anger like the millions of Superman fans all over this country, who piss on Henry Cavill, and recognize Tom Welling as the true Superman. Fuck Nolan, Fuck Snyder, and FUCK THIS MOVIE.

    Oh yeah, he’s Superman, Al. You don’t fuck with Supes and Captain Britain and The Fucking Cheesehead did and that will not be shrugged off.

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon