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BYOB 1/24/12

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  1. JS Partisan says:

    Okay, Tree of Life and Extremely Loud sneaking in there is trippy as hell. Hugo really received more noms than The Artist, that’s tremendous, but it’s not as tremendous as MAN OR MUPPET GETTING A FREAKING SONG NOMINATION! COME ON ACADEMY! HONOR THE MUPPETS, GIVE RANGO AN OSCAR, AND HONOR BRAD PITT FOR FREAKING ONCE!

  2. Jarod says:

    So David Fincher received a DGA nomination, but TGWTDT couldn’t manage a Best Pic nomination with 9 nominated? That might be the biggest surprise. That and the relatively poorly reviewed ELAIC receiving a nomination.

  3. Paul D/Stella says:

    Sure seemed like Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close buzz was on life support at best. That’s a surprise. Disappointed that Tilda Swinton wasn’t nominated. Such an incredible performance. My favorite of 2011.

    Any Sundance goers catch V/H/S or Compliance? I had never heard of the latter until yesterday. The screening sounds like it was interesting. I remember the Dateline special that partially influenced the movie. Crazy.

  4. JS Partisan says:

    Fincher got Nolaned. It was bound to happen to him after two Best Director Noms in a row. I am just shocked that Tree of Life, after everyone writing it off, is nominated. Hopefully this nomination alone leads to even more discussions about that movie in here :D.

  5. Keil Shults says:

    There’s nothing surprising about ToL’s BP nomination. I got into this argument over at Awards Daily, saying it was far more likely than Dragon Tattoo getting a nom. But I will admit that Extremely Loud’s inclusion was a shock, and the way it broke up the nice symmetry of 8 titles on the screen during the live announcements was hilarious.

  6. Keil Shults says:

    Albert Brooks has to be feeling a bit weird right now though.

  7. sanj says:

    tree of life – super bad movie made it – the help – a tv movie made it . sucks for drive ..who does Gosling have to
    kill to finally get an oscar ?

    DP got around 50% of people for dp/30 – regular people
    will finally get around to watching these interviews .
    DP got everybody in the best documentary for dp/30

  8. JKill says:

    I’m very happy that Oldman got in for Best Actor, and Nolte in Supporting. I love that Malick and TREE OF LIFE are nominated. I am bummed, however, that Brooks wasn’t nominated for DRIVE.

    I really hope that Mara wins for Best Actress.

    I too am shocked about EXTREMELY LOUD. I can’t say I agree or disagree since I won’t be seeing it until the next week or so, but still.

  9. arisp says:

    Sanj – go away.

    Tintin not being in there for animated picture is a shock for me. Also Bridesmaids? Really? Is that really a BEST PICTURE? Also, no Leo for Hoover is a bit of a surprise.

    Would have loved it if Woody Harrelson snuck in for Rampart. One of the best performances of the year IMO.

  10. JS Partisan says:

    I will just throw it out there to throw it out there: nice of the Academy to never once acknowledge the achievements of the Harry Potter films. Seriously, Hobbits are okay, but 21st century wizards are bad. You make no sense Academy! NO SENSE!

  11. Martin S says:

    Re: SOPA/PIPA.

    As thought, numbers are bullshit.

    Blame piracy, establish legal precedent, then extend reach.

  12. Breedlove says:

    Fired up for Brad Pitt. He came on the scene when I was in high school and first really getting into movies and has easily been my favorite actor ever since. Best taste in town and always a must watch in the theater. Love the Best Actor nom and two Best Pic noms for him. I’d kill to see him win, does he have any chance at all?

    DRIVE, my favorite film of the year so far, was just too cool for the Academy.

    What’s the deal with this movie coming out that stars “active duty” navy seals or whatever? Did the military fund it as a recruiting tool or something?

  13. PR Sweets says:

    Just wanted to use this opportunity to say I never watch the DP/30s – do you folks? Who has the time? I guess DP tracks these things so it must be working.

    I miss the writing.

    Also, Bridesmaids not nominated for best pic, arisp.

  14. Paul D/Stella says:

    I would have been floored if Drive received a best pic nom (not because I didn’t love it). Also happy for Mara. She is really great. Would have liked to have seen Fincher get a nom, too.

    I could be wrong but my perception is that the critical response to the Potter movies is about as strong as it was for the Rings trilogy. Is it just that Potter is perceived as a kids movie? Are the Rings movies that much better (I’ve only seen the Rings trilogy and the first HP).

  15. JS Partisan says:

    I miss the writing as well PR. The dude can write so damn well, but this is what he wants to do. Nevertheless, I am shocked that Extremely Loud got in there, for a movie that barely has a fresh rating. I dug the hell out of it, but I can see how my fave old members of the Academy would like it as well.

    Paul, the HP films may indeed be treated like kid films compared to the LOTR series, but they are still an incredible achievement. 8 movies in 10 years, and the quality increased with each film. The Baftas at least got them all up on stage and gave them credit that way, and why the Academy doesn’t do the same is really quite annoying to me.

  16. MarkVH says:

    Really glad Drive got shut out. It’s a mediocre movie. The emperor has no clothes. Phew.

    Anybody else find it funny that the Best Director list includes Alexander Payne, Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese and Terence Malick, and none of them are the front-runner?

    Would love to have seen Forster sneak in for supporting actor, but I knew it was pretty much a long shot. Seriously bummed that Shailene didn’t make it.

    Extremely Loud and War Horse are surprises, but only if you forget that the Academy loves to throw bones to Spielberg and Daldry regardless of whether anybody actually likes the movies (see also: Munich and The Reader).

    Love the editing nod for Tent.

  17. Breedlove says:

    Have to chime in here and totally agree with PR and JS. I don’t want to come off like I’m complaining – I don’t pay DP a dime and he’s been keeping me entertained for years, which I appreciate. But, no, I’ve never watched a DP/30. They don’t interest me much. And yeah, it bums me out that he seems to be focusing on that so much and moving away from writing. DP is one of the best film writers I’ve come across, I’d love to see him write more columns, do more reviews…this just comes down to personal preference but I’d take a long review or article about, say, DRAGON TATTOO over, say, an interview with Fincher any day. I’m actually more interested in what DP has to stay about a given movie than I am in what the director or cast or whatever have to say about it. The latter is generally not nearly as interesting.

  18. Don R. Lewis says:

    I’m seeing COMPLIANCE today, can’t wait. Pissed that I missed the premiere which apparently had a lively Q&A, to say the least. I’m not going to be able to see V/H/S but am hearing great things.

    Been a pretty mediocre Sundance for me. I didn’t really choose any movies and got assigned 14 and most have been so-so. Still, the only thing I loved was I AM NOT A HIPSTER which is getting no attention at all which is lame. God forbid people cover a small indie film with no celebrities in it. I also loved THE COMEDY, Tim and Eric’s mumblecore movie. It had the fastest walk-out I’ve ever seen at 45 seconds in. The guys onscreen are in tidy-whiteys wrestling and dumping beer on one another, then they started pantsing each other….dude was gone. It’ll be interesting to see who picks it up, if anyone.

    Also- nice to see IO and I agree on something for once: I’m psyched THE MUPPETS got nominated!

  19. Paul D/Stella says:

    Don most of the Sundance coverage I’m reading indicates that people have by and large been underwhelmed. At least the critics. Let me know what you think of Compliance.

  20. Blackcloud says:

    I’d put either part of Deathly Hallows against Return of the King and give the advantage to Hogwarts over Middle Earth.

    Overall, the Academy seems to be becoming more and more reactionary. Two years ago they picked a movie twelve people saw over a movie that was probably the biggest technical achievement since Star Wars. Last year it was a movie about someone giving a speech on the radio over a movie about the web’s transformation of social relationships. This year they’re going to trump it all by picking an actual silent film. It doesn’t get more backwards than that. Forget embracing the future, AMPAS isn’t even clinging to the present.

  21. JS Partisan says:

    Blackcloud, right on about HP. Now, with the movies they have chosen, they have chosen movies that have similar stories oddly enough, but have put value on different things. This is why I can’t see The Artist winning with Hugo right there. Hugo gives tribute to the silent era in ways even a silent film cannot. Hugo is about a love of cinema, it plays four quadrants, and that should hopefully lead to it running away with the Oscars. If not, they will pick the story that is right for them and like in last couple of years, there will be a movie with a similar tone to the one that wins.

  22. cadavra says:

    Sofia Coppola Syndrome strikes again. BRIDESMAIDS, a largely improvised movie (200 hours of footage shot) wins a Screenplay nomination. Oh, well, at least we were spared the horror of a Best Pic nomination.

    Sucks for ARTHUR CHRISTMAS not getting an animation nod, but from what I hear from friends in ASIFA, Sony didn’t send out screeners, so it was a foregone conclusion.

    But overall, I’m very happy with the results, and best of all, this should prove a real B.O. boost for HUGO.

  23. yancyskancy says:

    Improv in comedy films goes back at least to Leo McCarey, doesn’t it? I’d say whatever makes it to the screen should be considered “screen writing.”

    Plus, of course, most improv is verbal, and there’s more to screenwriting than dialogue. I assume Wiig and Mumulo did a complete draft with all the characters and plot laid out, and that all the improv stemmed from that, probably with them tweaking and revising during the shoot.

  24. LexG says:

    Anyone who doesn’t like DRIVE should be executed.

    They should be shot.

    BE A MAN.

  25. sanj says:

    watched haywire – hated the way it was shot – hated the music – generic story,

    overall – decent tv movie

    the audience had no reaction throughout the entire film- i really wished the cast / director saw how bored everybody was.

  26. storymark says:

    To answer PR’s question – I come to this site several times a day. I have never watched a single DP/30.

  27. sanj says:

    to those who haven’t watched a dp/30 – would you watch
    it if it were on tv ?

    i’ve seen 90% of the dp/30 in 2011 …

    they only take 30 minutes or so . thats like 1 seinfeld rerun ..yeah yeah seinfeld is 100 times better.

  28. sanj says:

    nice joker makeup

    pop my culture podcast – 1 hour

    worst of 2011 – mostly they talk about reality shows
    and how some are worse than others .

    interesting how they defend some of these reality shows..

  29. Don R. Lewis says:

    Man, COMPLIANCE was something else! I’m a huge defender of people like DePalma and last year with THE WOMAN where people scream misogyny because they don’t know what else to say. About 1/2 way through COMPLIANCE I was actively offended by what I was seeing and that felt weird for me as a film lover and critic. I’ve seen the intent behind IRREVERSIBLE, THE WOMAN and countless other “provocative” movies but this one hit me in a weird way.

    Thing is, I know Zobel a little bit and more importantly, I know people who know him well so I know he’s not a misogynist but that film was as close as I’ve ever gotten in my life to thinking the director was a pig. I’m still questioning all sorts of things about the film but my initial filthy feeling has calmed down a bit.

    In any case, it’s an extremely uncomfortable and provocative movie that I hope people get to see. The more I think about it and have conversations, the more I think it might actually be a spectacular movie. Or, disgusting. Or, both. So…yeah.

    And I think people are “underwhelmed” this year because this is a VERY indie year without alot of familiar faces on the screen and I think alot of writers and bloggers, etc. have a hard time adjusting and parsing that. There’s a TON of new directors or directors with only one previous credit so the rah-rah paparazzi stuff isn’t here as much. Well, on Main Street it is, but not where the movies are. Plus I kind of run with the blogger group who are into genre and it hasn’t been a strong year for genre/midnight movies although Coscarelli’s film is tonight. People loved V/H/S though. Oh! I did see THE PACT and it’s simply terrible.

  30. Paul D/Stella says:

    Cool. Thanks Don. I can’t wait to see Compliance and V/H/S. Let me know what you think of John Dies at the End.

  31. cadavra says:

    Improv goes back to the very infancy of the movies; Chaplin and Keaton, for two, worked things out as they went along. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But–it is an utterly different art than actually writing a screenplay. If the Academy wants to create a category for Best Movie Made Up As They Went Along, I’m fine with it. But it should not be confused with the very special discipline of hunching over a keyboard and crafting a story, characters and dialogue. And I would say that even if I had liked BRIDESMAIDS.

  32. yancyskancy says:

    I should have specified that I was referring to the sound era only, since I think dialogue is where most of today’s improv is found.

    “But it should not be confused with the very special discipline of hunching over a keyboard and crafting a story, characters and dialogue.”

    As I said before, I think Wiig and Mumolo most likely DID hunch over a keyboard to create a story , characters and dialogue, and then much of the dialogue was reworked/invented on set. So maybe they should get two-thirds of a nomination. 🙂

    Even though I’m a screenwriter, I can’t help but think that what counts it what makes it to the screen (screenwriting = writing for the screen). Otherwise, the award would be given for Best Draft or something. I realize that’s problematic, especially in terms giving credit, but it’s the nature of the beast. I would guess that many (most?) film shoots deviate from the written dialogue to one degree or another.

    To go back a few years, do you think Ring Lardner, Jr. should’ve won for M*A*S*H?

  33. LYT says:

    Cadavra, are you as upset when Mike Leigh gets nominated for Best Screenplay?

  34. JKill says:

    As far as I can tell, the Apatow movies and others like them are not as heavily improved as the hype would suggest. Most of their screenplays are available on the internet, and it appears they are structurally identical, with the main difference being specific jokes and lines within scenes. My assumption is that they get the scripts to be as good as they can be, and then they utilize their great comedic actors (who are often also writers) to create great, spontaneous jokes in character and in context of the story. If you listen to the Creative Screenwriting podcast for Superbad with Rogen and Goldberg, they say that while there is improv, the movie is pretty close to what was originally on the page.

  35. jesse says:

    I’ll add to JKill that if you watch the excerpts of a table read of Superbad on the DVD that took place well before filming (with Rogen in the “Seth” role and I believe Jason Segel as “Evan”), not only is the story very similar in what you see, but some of the dialogue is word-for-word. I haven’t read it, but I get the impression from that feature and from the movie itself that the screenplay to Superbad is terrific, as silly as that seems.

    I do blanch a little at the Bridesmaids nomination since it smacks more of “funny movie, easy to reward the star without risking prestige” than admiration for the script. I’d tend to give awards attention more to Wiig herself, as I think the success of that movie rests largely on the performances (which includes improvising skills) moreso than with the story… but that’s not to discount the writing process at ALL; clearly it’s a good script. Just not necessarily what I’d select for awards recognition, given the movies that I just plain liked more overall and felt more like a writer’s achievement (Miranda July’s The Future, for example, is pretty much the opposite: the performances in it are fine and work perfectly for the movie, but if I were to give it awards recognition, I’d go straight to the writing and directing).

    It also means that Paul Feig’s direction of Bridesmaids was probably a lot stronger than a lot of people gave him credit for just because it had some cheesy establishing shots.

    But yeah, I’d be fine with any number of improv-heavy comedy scripts getting nominated; Funny People, for example, totally deserved it (except that it’s too dark/long/unlikable to be embraced by voters). I don’t think any of those Apatow-produced movies would work as well as they do if they were truly made up on the spot.

  36. The Big Perm says:

    Man, improv isn’t making up a movie on the spot. That’s just ridiculous. The structure is the thing. Once you break that, there’s a lot of leeway. Some of the best bits of Ghostbusters was improv…but they were working from a script. The most memorable part of Raiders of the Lost Ark was made up on the day.

  37. sanj says:

    i watched bellflower 2011 – cars . girls . blowing stuff up. i was really in it for the first hour but the last 30
    minutes ..story started to suck…by the end i just didn’t care what happened to these guys..

    Jessie Wiseman as the girl really worked – pretty good
    for firt time actor…

    also the movie was really good looking with the colors
    they used..

  38. sanj says:

    i’m giving up on alactraz on fox –

    this is another cop show with missing people .

    i expected higher quality stories from J.J Abrams .

    this show belongs on cbs right after csi or on nbc
    right after law and order …

  39. sanj says:

    lots of small cool stories – maybe 1 of them can
    be turned into a movie …

  40. sanj says:

    bored teen girl – a waste of 5 minutes.

    The Cannie Show season 2 episode 1

  41. Paul D/Stella says:

    Don (and anyone else interested), this is a 20/20 segment on the real-life case in Kentucky that I believe partially inspired Compliance.

    It is insane. They should have showed it prior to the movie. Might have changed how people felt about it since it seems like some critics contend that it contains unrealistic behaviors. What happens to that poor girl is hard to believe.

  42. sanj says:

    something that LexG would think up – not sure why
    celebrities do this to themselves …

    Miley Cyrus eats penis cake –

    this is just so weird …

    Matt Damon + my little pony pictures

    hangover 3 stars want 15 million each . DP get on this and ask your buddy Todd Phillips if its real.

  43. yancyskancy says:

    sanj: I’m just trying to figure out what it says about Liam Hemsworth that his friends got him a giant penis cake for his birthday.

  44. sanj says:

    i’m guessing it was a joke but then miley had to
    take some pictures with it ..

    this might matter if they were bigger stars and it was
    actually shocking.

    shocking to teens maybe but everybody else not so much.

    on another note – apple ipods / touch / ipad
    i see these on the bus all the time .
    if apple products are so amazing – why don’t random
    strangers talk to other random strangers on the bus
    and talk to each other. maybe share some music /’ videos or whatever.

  45. actionman says:

    sanj is MISREABLE…

  46. sanj says:

    from imdb. these all cost a lot to make – are fun
    summer blockbusters / popcorn movies –
    so i don’t expect any dp/30’s .

    also don’t expect too many oscars – except for
    tech / music

    you movie critics have access to all these movies
    and probably have seen these and can’t talk
    about them or some movie exec will yell at you.

    Top 10 Most Anticipated In-Production Movies*

    1. The Dark Knight Rises
    2. Men in Black III
    3. The Dictator
    4. G.I. Joe: Retaliation
    5. The Expendables 2
    6. Battleship
    7. The Avengers
    8. Rock of Ages
    9. The Hunger Games
    10. Prometheus

  47. cadavra says:

    Yancy: Yes, I’m sure there was an outline and perhaps some sort of broad scene description, but when you shoot (by Feig’s estimate) 200 hours of footage on a film with no second-unit action scenes or special effects, it’s pretty clear there hasn’t been a lot written down beforehand. Though I will admit that the gettng-the-last-word-in scene was probably written by Wiig as an SNL sketch that was rejected. And yes, Lardner deserved his win, because he was adapting a novel; the structure, characters and some dialogue were already in place.

    Luke: AFAIK, Leigh writes a fairly detailed script that only suggests possible dialogue, which he then works out with his actors. You might quibble that this is not a big difference, but as the cliche goes, the devil is in the details. A lot of directors–Scorsese, Eastwood, Lumet (RIP), Woody, even Tarantino–treat the script as The Bible, which they could not do if everything wasn’t right there on the page.

    And considering how many excellent original scripts could have been nominated in its place–THE GUARD, AMIGO, EVEN THE RAIN, ARTHUR CHRISTMAS, BURKE AND HARE, ATTACK THE BLOCK and WOMEN ON THE 6th FLOOR, to name a few off the top of my head–its inclusion is even more unfathomable.

  48. yancyskancy says:

    I only brought up Lardner because supposedly he was so pissed about all the improv in M*A*S*H, he didn’t want sole writing credit. He eventually took it under protest.

    I’ve read that Wiig and Mumolo worked on the BRIDESMAIDS script over several years, starting sometime around the production of KNOCKED UP, when Apatow asked them if they had any projects. They definitely presented him a completed first draft, then did rewrites based on his notes. He and Feig reportedly came up with the idea for the food poisoning and airplane scenes. And, yes, lots of improv during shooting. But isn’t improv basically writing on the fly? Those who are great at improv might not be great while hunched over a keyboard, but then a lot of desk jockeys probably suck at improv.

    I don’t know, I guess part of the reason their nomination doesn’t bother me (aside from liking the film) is that writing credits are often so misleading or incomplete. Finished films often contain the work of many uncredited writers, with only the credited writers eligible for Oscar consideration.

  49. sanj says:

    cool real scifi thing thats real

    kid can see in dark – he has cat eyes

    4 minute video

  50. Don R. Lewis says:

    Thanks for that link! I actually had seen that and followed that story pretty closely. It’s one of the craziest things I’ve EVER heard….guy got away with it over 70 times.

    My issues were more about the hotness of the girl being “investigated” and why Zobel chose a really cute girl. There’s also some weird issues (for me) in regards to how men act in the film -vs- women. However, I had a good discussion with Drew McWeeny who made some points I hadn’t thought of that were very smart. It’s a pretty brilliant film and, highly disturbing to me still.

  51. storymark says:

    ” I’m sure there was an outline and perhaps some sort of broad scene description, but when you shoot 200 hours of footage on a film with no second-unit action scenes or special effects, it’s pretty clear there hasn’t been a lot written down beforehand. ”

    That’s taking a hell of a lot on assumption.

    No, all it really tells us is they shot a lot – which in no way means they didn’t have a script – just that they allowed a lot of improv. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

  52. sanj says:

    anybody watch touch on fox . drama where kids sees future ,..good actors – nice directing – overall not bad ..

  53. storymark says:

    Skipped it. After the last Tim Kring superpower show, it’s hard to muster much interest.

  54. JS Partisan says:

    SM, damn right, especially given the way Tim Kring writes those shows by COMMITTEE! Only Tim Kring thinks you can write one these shows like a sitcom, and it shows.

  55. Paul D/Stella says:

    There’s so many shows and so little time, it just doesn’t look like something making time for.

    I never watched Heroes, but a media studies professor I had showed a clip of it in class once. One of the greatest examples of product placement ever. It revolved around a new car, like a Toyota Corolla (I can’t remember the exact vehicle). Characters kept saying stuff like “Let’s hop in the Toyota Corolla” and “We need to drive there in the Toyota Corolla.” It was hilarious.

  56. sanj says:

    > it just doesn’t look like something making time for

    come on … you guys watch bad movies that take up the same
    time .
    Francis Lawrence directed this – he makes movies.

    i gave alactraz 3 shots before i gave up.

    the tv series river is coming soon – its a found footage style paranormal activity thing .

  57. Paul D/Stella says:

    Got to pick and choose which bad movies and TV shows to watch. Not enough time for all of them. I’ve seen a ton of Touch TV spots. They have failed to grab me.

  58. cadavra says:

    TOUCH was so-so–reminded me too much of the Nic Cage movie KNOWING.

  59. JS Partisan says:

    Actually Paul, that was the Nissan Versa, and that pales in comparison to the car ads on other shows. Now, they put them at the beginning of the episode at least, but they have become more prevalent over the years. Oddly enough though, you still have a show like Psych that hypes the hell out of the Mazda they drive, but they never ever make it come across as a commercial.

  60. sanj says:

    subway pretty much saved chuck ,., fans bought subway and saved the show

    and now the show ends with 2 hours.

    i was a big fan of chuck – then it just became worse …

    the dp/30’s don’t have enough product placement.
    DP is not cashing in. just put something in the background for the entire interview without annoying
    people…a poster maybe. nothing that blinks or makes

    also the descendants banner ads on every major movie blog – they really want people to see this film…and
    win some awards. so instead of paying Clooney more
    milions- fox searchlight just put a huge dump truck
    full of cash and DP is raking it all in .

  61. Hallick says:

    The first season of Hawaii 5-O whored out the Chevy Cruze so much I thought I missed the pivotal episode where the team went in together on a Honolulu car dealership.

  62. sanj says:

    computers are the easiest thing to put on tv for product placement – apple computers are all over the tv .

    mostly the office. where they use computers ..

    what sort of money deal do these companies make ?

    also …

    The Fashion Design Council of Canada announced yesterday that World Mastercard will be the new title sponsor for Toronto Fashion Week.

    The credit card company will replace LG, the washing machine and household gadgets company which was the major sponsor for Toronto fashion week for several seasons.

  63. sanj says:

    watched the vow 2011 trailer – why does Rachel McAdams keep taking easy parts …this is pretty much notebook version 2.

    she needs to pick better parts … she could have had a few big oscar nominations by now.

    but she knows she has the look at her!!! factor and uses that for easy parts.

    Jessica Alba – also uses her look at her!!! for easy parts.

    not sure if Rooney Mara had the look at her!!! factor but all she did was put on some crazy makeup and bang = oscar nomination.

  64. The Big Perm says:

    I understand Fincher shot about 300 hours of footage for Social Network. Were they making up that movie as they went? Kubrick also would shoot hundreds of hours, and you know he liked to make things up on the spot, he hated planning things.

  65. yancyskancy says:

    To Whom: The home page link to the Robert Hegyes obit misspells his last name.

  66. Don R. Lewis says:

    Speaking of Kubrick…just watched the Sundance doc ROOM 237 and it’s by FAR the coolest movie from Sundance. It may be the most engrossing film about filmmaking ever.

  67. cadavra says:

    Kubrick shot hundreds of hours because he was a lunatic who made his actors do 60, 70, 80, even 90 takes until he got it just right. By contrast, Eastwood virtually never goes over three, and often films rehearsals and decides he likes one of them and never goes to an official take. That’s how he can wrap his movies in 37 days while Kubrick would take 337 days.

  68. LexG says:

    Sanj, Rooney definitely has the LOOK AT HER! factor.

  69. sanj says:

    hey LexG – when does the look at her factor go away for you?

    there’s a ton of look at her!!! without any real acting talent. once in awhile actresses just get lucky.

    i have some favorite actresses i want monthly dp/30’s …but DP just don’t do that.

    there’s already a dozen look at her!!! actresses who
    haven’t done a dp/30. DP is not chasing them in
    some sort of dp/30 van.

    this is still funny …

    DP/30 Sneak Peek: Is Carla Gugino A Sex Bomb?

  70. LexG says:

    The LOOK AT HER factor goes away at AGE 30, unless the actress has a Jolie Pass; Reese Witherspoon, Naomi Watts, Charlize, Natalie Zea from Justified, and a select few others have retained their LOOK AT HER factor into OLD AGE…

    But mostly women are only attractive from their late teens through 30. Then it’s over.

  71. sanj says:

    Emma Stone and bunch of guest actors in the best movie ever

    ‘Martin Luther King Day’ Movie (VIDEO)

    2 minutes

  72. yancyskancy says:

    Yeah, even though cad and I disagree on BRIDESMAIDS, I agree with him that the shooting methods of Kubrick (and Fincher) are irrelevant to the issue at hand, since their copious footage isn’t obtained via comic improv, but rather perfectionism. Eastwood does provide a good contrast to those guys (his methods have no bearing on the improv question, however, since he generally accepts only those scripts he deems ready to shoot, and then shoots them).

  73. sanj says:

    incredibly loud and extremely close tv trailers now have
    new voice over – nominated for best picture oscar ..

    other movies need to catch up – wake up the sound guy to do more voice overs ..

    then people will rush out and watch all these movies.

    voice over guy in movie commercials is more important than DP .

  74. Don R. Lewis says:

    Cadavra- ROOM 237 is a doc about 4-5 people who are convinced of hidden meanings in THE SHINING. To me it shows you can make any piece of art mean anything you want if you try hard enough. But on the flipside, there’s some very odd things in THE SHINING that make some of these arguments compelling, Great stuff!

  75. The Big Perm says:

    Obvously Kubrick and Fincher shot such a wide amount fo footage for different reasons than Bridesmaids…I’m such speaking to the fact that a large amount of footage doesn’t necessarily mean no one knows what’s going on and there’s no script and all of that horse hockey.

    However, for an esteemed director who is artistic and shoots tons of footage and figures out later what to do with it…Malick.

  76. yancyskancy says:

    Good points, Perm.

  77. Krillian says:

    Nicolas Cage’s The Hunger Rabbit Jumps has had its title changed to Seeking Justice. So I have no hope for it being good.

  78. sanj says:

    coming to dvd in march 2012

    didn’t find this funny at all – lots of new actors

    high road trailer – guys and drugs

  79. sanj says:

    come on DP – get LexG a dp/30 with K-Stew .

    it’ll be the highest rated dp/30 ever …

    it’ll get people to focus on the non twilight movies she’s done.

  80. yancyskancy says:

    I’d love to see K-Stew interviewed by Lex “in character,” but as he often reminds us, he’d probably choke and it would be like “The Chris Farley Show.” “Remember when you made that TWILIGHT movie…?” 🙂

  81. sanj says:

    a story worth checking out – 1 minute to read it.

  82. sanj says:

    check out this super low budget movie about gangsters doing a documentary …

    The Notorious Newman Brother – trailer

  83. sanj says:

    2 minute ad – movie parody thing … this could
    have been so much cooler .

    Honda CR-V Game Day Commercial – “Matthew’s Day Off” Extended Version

  84. sanj says:

    its time for some updates from DP – reviews and dp/30 which is what this whole site is about .

    DP – can you post 3 sundance dp/30 per day – finish them off in a whole week – get responses and stuff .

    plus the actors might be a bit upset your not posting these things faster…. they could have gone to other film people for interviews and they would have posted faster.

    if you have super exclusive interviews – maybe its a good idea to post them faster…

    also i’m pretty sure i’m the only one who wants the Sarah Polley dp/30 posted faster .

    i’m a nobody – the only people who can get a response is tmz … tmz needs to follow DP around and ask the hard questions about all the dp/30’s .

  85. sanj says:

    check out women of oscar ….

    they took look at her!!! actresses and made them average

    LexG – just search for vanity fair 2012 oscar into google or wait a week and hit the newstand.

  86. LexG says:

    I want to see that but I don’t trust that link.

    I only go to major web sites. I don’t know what Gossip Cop is.

  87. sanj says:

    3 minute video – Kristen Bell’s Sloth Meltdown

    awesome real reaction or really good acting.

  88. LexG says:

    I’m sick of KRISTEN BELL doing this thing where she thinks she’s funny… Why is she ALWAYS on Craig Ferguson? Are they banging or something?

    Bell is also becoming a charter HACK PACK member by doing eight TV shows and cameos and commercials in between movies. Can we go back to the old days where MOVIE ACTORS did movies, and TV ACTORS did TV? Like, why are WILL FERRELL and ZACH GALAFINIAKIS or KRISTEN WIIG still doing TV and Funny or Die or ANY of that cameo comedy bullshit? You don’t see ADAM SANDLER or EDDIE MURPHY doing guest runs on sitcoms. Neither should Kristen Bell or Seth Rogen.

  89. storymark says:

    Lex, with your track record and meteoric career trajectory, if you think they’re doing something wrong – they’re likely on the right path.

  90. LexG says:

    Right, they’re great. I should be OVER FUCKING JOYED to watch the same goddamn 20 hacks in every form of media (Wiig, Rudolph, Hamm, Bell, Zach, Ferrell, McBride, etc.)

  91. cadavra says:

    Note the time: I agree with Lex.

  92. yancyskancy says:

    In some of those cases, it’s not TV, it’s HBO.

  93. LexG says:

    Where is the LUCK discussion thread, speaking of HBO?

    HOLY SHIT is that NOT going to catch on. Mann all cranking up his old HEAT soundtrack cues… over shots of Kevin Dunn filling out racing slips and Nick Nolte TALKING TO A HORSE.

    Still haven’t decided if that’s a HUGE dud, or so perversely audience-punishing as to be kind of AWESOME. Amusing to watch the Milch fanboys acting like the pilot was some immortal masterpiece, when by its very nature it was sort of inaccessible and vague and only setting up a few minor things rather than any kind of self-contained deal worthy of outsize praise.

    Also Mann HAS to stop with that half-overheard, ass-backwards, intentionally vague, minutia-to-the-point of exclusion shtick he’s been doing since ALI, minus COLLATERAL.

  94. Paul D/Stella says:

    I liked Luck. I don’t know anything about horse racing so some of it was over my head, but the cast is excellent and overall I enjoyed dropping in on this world. I love seeing people like John Ortiz and Kevin Dunn and Ritchie Coster. I liked the Heat music cues, too. I’m not sure the pilot is a masterpiece, but it’s pretty damn good and all the reviews I’ve read suggest the show gets significantly better as the season progresses. It was on at least 6 different HBO channels last night and I also can’t imagine it’s going to be a hit. Probably closer to John From Cincinnati than The Sopranos in the ratings. I look forward to the rest of the season.

    Tried watching episode 2 of Alcatraz last night. Turned it off after about 35-40 minutes. I was bored senseless. Think I’m done with that one.

  95. LexG says:

    LUCK was not especially true to my experience of going to Santa Anita and betting 2 bucks to win on every single horse, and losing 16 bucks but making 4. GOOD PLAN.

  96. Paul D/Stella says:

    You never won $2 million-plus in the Pick 6?

  97. LexG says:

    Haha! Yeah, I’m kind of a dumb-ass about it all, so I didn’t get if Gedrick is some RAIN MAN savant at picking that shit, or just has a really good strategy; I have to say, that DINER scene where the GANG all meets up with Ian What’s His Name, I almost threw in the towel there, because I had NO IDEA what anyone was talking about.

    Didn’t understand Ortiz’s beef with the jockey. Didn’t understand Nolte talking to horses. Didn’t know who that Funkhouser looking dude in the ballcap was at the end who showed up to sit with Kind and who has a drinking problem. Didn’t understand which horse had the shitting problem. Didn’t understand if Ortiz’s horse was also Farina’s horse, or who Henessy was riding for, or why the SECURITY GUARD was doling out 50 GRAND for Gedrick to bet with. Didn’t understand why a SECURITY GUARD was also a bookie, or why he didn’t bet, or what the FUCK WAS GOING ON EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER at any any any single point in the show.

    I love Michael Mann, but sometimes I think he loses his head up his ass in VERISIMILITUDE, when no one else in the WORLD cares about that level of minutia; But it’s on MILCH even more. Then again, I don’t really know or care who David Milch is; Sounds like some TV hack writer everybody has a boner for, when we all know as movie people that writing is the least important part of anything.

  98. Paul D/Stella says:

    Milch wrote for Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue. Created and ran Deadwood. Maybe the much discussed feuds between Mann and Milch hurt the show a bit, each guy fighting for what they want. It reminded me of Game of Thrones. It throws you into this very specific world, and if you’re not familiar with it, you might be a little lost. I had some of the same problems you did and I’m hoping it becomes a little easier to follow as it goes along. I did read that Ortiz is pissed at the jockey because the latter is supposed to keep his trap shut and do whatever he’s told as far as racing strategy goes. I also find it interesting that trainers can bet on the races. I’m sure by the end of the season I’ll still be somewhat confused about the world of horse racing, but the cast is so good, with more cool actors like Michael Gambon and Joan Allen on the way, I’m happy to go along for the ride.

  99. LexG says:

    Since I’m bored and asking everything that runs through my mind this morning:

    What’s with all the big studio action movies (well, 2nd tier titles maybe) lately being all directed by some foreign nobody with minimal or NO credits?

    Safe House
    The Thing
    Man on a Ledge

    ALL directed by some obscure foreign dude with an unpronouncable name and no major credits, or credits that never had any crossover into the States– Did Hollywood get a discount on all these dudes? How do you just get a BLANK CHECK to make a big studio action movie doing a fairly solid Scott/Greengrass imitation? And in a country that is not your own?

    It’d be like if some BIG STUDIO in STOCKHOLM randomly picked Drew McWeeny and Don Lewis to go direct a 70 mil movie using an all Swiss crew in a country where they’re foreigners– it’s fucking SUPERNATURAL, how does this happen? How do foreign directors KNOW how to direct American crime shit and know the slang and even understand what’s going on in the plot, let alone DIRECT THE MOVIE?

  100. Paul D/Stella says:

    I’m bored too so I am going to respond to all of your posts.

    With Contraband, the same guy directed the original right? Not sure how a guy with only a few documentaries to his name ended up directing Man on a Ledge. Regarding The Thing, a lot of recent horror remakes have gone with foreign directors, like The Eye and One Missed Call. They probably come cheap, do what the studio says. Maybe some of them did commercials here, too. And another for your list Lex, The Cold Light of Day, from the director of JCVD.

  101. Don R. Lewis says:

    Completely agree with lex on LUCK…WTF was that first episode? My wife and I both looked at each other 20 mins in and said “can you understand what the fuck ANY of these people are talking about?!” Not just in terms of what they were talking ABOUT but I could not UNDERSTAND any of them. There’s like, 6 character arcs going and each person either has a heavy accent, slang, a stutter or a breathing apparatus over their mouth.

    It all felt like we were supposed to bow down because it’s Milch and Mann and Hoffman and Nolte but the result was crap. I’ll give it a few more tries but it clearly stumbled out of the gate (yes!).

    I am totally available for any Swiss remakes of American films.

  102. Paul D/Stella says:

    A little dense sure, but crap? If it’s crap then 95% of what’s on TV must be vile worthless garbage.

  103. LexG says:

    Wonder if having an imposing foreign name gives an up and coming filmmaker more gravitas than his American counterparts; the CONTRABAND guy’s name is Baltasar Kormakur. That sounds so authoritative– even if he’s some smirking Iceland jerkoff, I picture some Werner Herzog-looking bad-ass just not taking any shit. Maybe the choice comes down between guys with names like NICHOLAS REFN, ASGER LETH AND BALTASAR KORMAKUR… or some NYU kid named like Tommy Levy and Billy Smith, and they decide the foreign guy sounds more bad-ass.

    “…it clearly stumbled out of the gate”


  104. Mike says:

    Luck’s already gotten the green light for a season 2, so viewers will get a chance to see if it improves as most of the critics who have watched the entire season have said it does.

    I fucking love Milch’s Deadwood, but if you had asked me what was going on after watching the pilot, I wouldn’t have been able to tell you.

    I’m going to wait on Luck until I have five or six episodes to watch in a bunch.

  105. Paul D/Stella says:

    Despite not exactly stellar ratings for the first episode. 1.1 million viewers.

  106. Mike says:

    3.3 million viewers over the course of the night, though.

  107. Paul D/Stella says:

    Over the course of the night or combined with the December sneak preview? Or both?

    Mad Mel’s latest, Get the Gringo (formerly known as How I Spent My Summer Vacation), is premiering on DirecTV.

  108. sanj says:

    LexG – i like Bell on Fergusion – she’s funny over there.

    DP missed out on dp/30 with her when she on was veronica mars …

    DP is missing. maybe hes under some snow in sundance mountain and nobody can find him . better get those wolves from the grey to check that out.

    also saw luck – it sounded like a cop show really ..
    good directing – good actors – they need to dumb things down to sanj level a bit.

    30 rock is too good for nbc – they should kick that to fx ..give it no commercials and add 5 extra minutes .

    generaqlly nbc sitcoms are getting worse .

    also anybody watch last simpsons – not 1 laugh for me – entire episode was about moe’s dishrag and somehow they made a whole story about it .
    simpsons – cancel that.

  109. Mike says:

    Paul, I don’t know. I was just going on this from Sepinwall’s blog:

    “As a non-advertiser-supported channel, HBO doesn’t depend on ratings for its decisions (the “Luck” premiere, for what it’s worth, combined to get 3.3 million viewers over multiple airings, though the 9 p.m. airing only averaged 1.1 million)…”

    I assumed that meant over the course of the night, as I had forgotten that they had sneaked it a month or so ago.

  110. Paul D/Stella says:

    Just curious. Hollywood Reporter says that number includes the December preview. Doesn’t really matter now if season 2 is a go.

  111. Mike says:

    And HBO is the network that gave The Wire five seasons, despite lackluster ratings and zero Emmys. If critics continue to like Luck, it could be on for a while.

  112. Paul D/Stella says:

    Not to mention Treme, which will get at least 3 seasons right?

    Anyone watching House of Lies? I love Cheadle but haven’t checked it out yet.

  113. sanj says:

    i like fx shows right now than hbo .

    hbo is coke – fx is pepsi .

  114. LexG says:

    Kinda curious if heavy hitters like Hoffman and Nolte are now kind of cringing at the prospect of doing multiple seasons. Like, eh, sounded like a cool deal because it was HBO and a Mann pilot… Now they’re looking forward to three years as television actors working for Tim Van Patten. Who knows, maybe they want the stability and a cushy gig that films in LA instead of on the road…

    Just seems to me, if I were a TV actor, I’d be PRAYING for my show to be canceled after a year or two, ESPECIALLY some show that films elsewhere. Always feel bad for those actors stuck filming in Texas or North Carolina or Hawaii or Vancouver away from the action of Hollywood for most of the year. The worst part of being any kind of actor or filmmaker, to me, would be having to go to other cities and live in hotels and shoot on location. LA ONLY. Carpenter talks about that a lot in interviews, how he hated filming on the road and being away from his town and his kids, so he’d try to make movies he could film in L.A. GOOD IDEA.

  115. Mikkel says:

    Contraband is actually directed by the guy who played the lead in the original (which begs the question whether there is a precedent for that?).

    Certainly it’s remarkable to note that 3 movies in the current US top 20 are directed by Nordic directors (plus The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, and the 2 current movies featuring the leads from the Swedish original).

    As for strange trivia, Asger Leth becomes the 4th Danish director to direct a 10m grosser within the past 12 months, and the 6th since the opening of An Education in late 2009. Before that only 2 movies directed by Danish directors had ever made 10m dollar in the US. (I challenge everyone to guess what those movies were, and which 2011-release that now holds the record as the highest-grossing ‘Danish’ movie ever).

  116. Don R. Lewis says:

    HOUSE OF LIES is pretty fun and funny but I’m having a hard time seeing where it will go and how it will remain interesting. Cheadle’s great but Kristen Bell has been fairly useless characters wise thus far.

  117. Paul D/Stella says:

    It probably works well for Nolte and Hoffman because they can work close to home and the movie offers probably aren’t what they used to be. Steady work and a short commute. And there’s still prestige because it’s HBO and Mann/Milch.

    Ryan Murphy did mention that American Horror Story should appeal to big name stars because doing it will only require a season’s commitment, nothing beyond that.

  118. Paul D/Stella says:

    “Before that only 2 movies directed by Danish directors had ever made 10m dollar in the US.”

    Mikael Salomon’s Hard Rain ($19 million) and Bille August’s Les Miserables ($14 million)?

  119. Mikkel says:

    Holy crap, that was fast! And correct!

  120. Krillian says:

    I saw the first episode of House of Lies, and I have more on DVR, but I don’t find myself in a rush to see episode 2. I’m actually looking more forward to Season 2 of Episodes.

    But Justified is here, one of the best shows on TV.

    As to Nolte and Hoffman, when it’s only 10 episodes or whatever they’re doing, it’s less than half of what network stars commit to. I think that’s why Zack Galifianakis could have done another season or two of Bored to Death. Still has time to do a couple movies a year on top of it. And how many movies a year are Hoffman and Nolte making? Take away his animated voicework, Hoffman rarely does more than one movie a year. And Nolte… wow, a quick IMDB check shows he has six movies coming in the next year or two.

  121. sanj says:

    i’ve seen all episodes of house of lies – its kinda like entourage a bit …part of its crazy stuff LexG would do ..
    – an episode had 2 minutes on how to pick up girls like George Clooney – quite funny .

    overall its not bad.

  122. Joe Leydon says:

    I don’t understand why some people found Episode 1 of Luck hard to understand. Hey, think of it as Chapter 1 of a novel.

  123. LexG says:

    Yeah, a boring novel.

  124. LexG says:

    Sanj, you lie, the VF chicks all have the LOOK AT HER FACTOR.


  125. sanj says:

    LexG – you liked the dresses they wear in the vanity fair pictures ? me not so much.

  126. LexG says:


    Also SHAILENE made the inside cover YAAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY

    Only thing missing is that HOT-ASS chick on Modern Family who is 22 but looks about 15, Sarah Hyland, the Ultimate Woman.

    And that new Spanish chick from Man on a Ledge, who NEEDS A DP/5 from LexG. My balls almost exploded from the hotness GENESIS POWER.

  127. sanj says:

    another link to vanity fair photos – lots of comments

    every year vanity fair just screws up the oscar pictures.

    look at her!!! should go to maxim magazine .

  128. Joe Leydon says:

    But Lex: They’re all wearing shoes!

  129. christian says:
  130. Don R. Lewis says:

    “part of its crazy stuff LexG would do”

    Like what? Work a shitty dead-end job, get blackout drunk and post on movie blogs into the wee hours? Partaaaaaay!!!

  131. LexG says:

    No need to be a jerk, Don. I caught that too and was just sort of disarmed that sanj thinks I’m cool.

    You don’t have to ruin everything.

    Joe: Yes, it’s a step down from the one 2-3 years ago where Blake Lively and K-Stew showed their feet.

  132. leahnz says:

    the vanity fair cover shoot: pandering to the Aryan Nation since year dot


  133. LexG says:

    THREE WOMEN OF COLOR ON IT, so pipe down.

    Yeah, the chick from PARIAH is surely big with the Aryan Nation, dolt. Paula Patton is half black.


  134. LexG says:

    LEAH X.

  135. sanj says:

    i’m guessing 75% of these ladies on vanity fair will
    not be on the cover next year …

    enjoy your 15 minutes of high end fame.

    Brit Marling and Liz Olsen really made 1 picture and they get on the cover …

  136. LexG says:

    Actresses tend to fade within five years, because really, no one cares about their acting, just their hotness. Once they start Botoxing and having babies, the shine is off and it’s on to New Hotness, Wooderson style.

  137. leahnz says:

    by any means necessary, cracker mutherfucker

    (dictionary recommendations for the day: definition of the word ‘cover’ as it pertains to magazines; definition of the world ‘token’ as it pertains to non-whites. that should be enough of a strain, i’d think)

  138. LexG says:

    Leah, the United States is not 50% black and 50% white.

  139. sanj says:

    Time to Ask if Vanity Fair Is Racist (Again)

    new comedy on tv ..

    Key and Peele …. here’s a small preview

    2 minutes

  140. Krillian says:

    If you go by TV, America’s 88% white, 10% black, 1% Latino and 1% Asian.

    If you go by the movies, America’s 70% male and 30% female.

    If you go by books, America’s 25% in the present, 1% in the future, and 74% a long time ago.

  141. sanj says:

    anybody care about superbowl commercials .. i think its coming this weekend ..

  142. sanj says:

    hey movie critics – do you spend more time thinking about what other movie critics think about movie reviews or
    people on forums ? or is it the same thing at this point ?

  143. Don R. Lewis says:

    I was joking….tagging up on your personae. Didn’t mean to be mean, sorry!

  144. movieman says:

    Just got back from “Chronicle,” and was suitably impressed.
    It’s kind of like the “found footage” movie Spielberg might have produced (and Bob Zemeckis or Joe Dante could have directed) back in the mid-’80s ….if ff movies had existed back then.
    Very possibly a minor classic.
    “C” also proves what a world of difference it makes when you cast actual ACTORS in this type of movie.
    The kid from “In Treatment” and “Amigo” impressed me as a pre-“Titanic” era Leo DiCaprio; the black guy from “Friday Night Lights” and “Parenthood” comes across like a very young Denzel; and the third dude–the only one I don’t recall having seen before–is nearly as good.

  145. SamLowry says:

    As for Superbowl commercials, I thought the kerfuffle over the Honda ad is quite amusing, considering most of the “critics” writing about it are merely saying “Hated it” without giving any reasons why. Sorry, pathetic unpaid internet headline grabber–that’s not a review, that’s an opinion, and you know what they say about opinions and assholes….

    I wasn’t surprised in the least to see “Ferris” selling out because I’ve always considered him a soulless sociopath, if not a borderline psychopath. Consider how he treats his “friend”: he harasses Cameron to come along on this adventure just so he can lay his hands on The Car, which gets wrecked (no surprise there), and Ferris’ take is “Hey, maybe this will help you become a man” because what else can he do? What else can he say?

    “Oops, I made a mistake”?

    No way, not Ferris! Because he doesn’t really care about anyone else, because he merely uses other people to achieve his own ends, which will make him a great corporate executive or serial killer…same thing.

    Hughes was wise to create Cameron just as Fitzgerald was wise to create Nick, because without someone to empathize with the audience might grow frustrated with the lead’s infuriating behavior and walk out.

    Ed Rooney was right all along!

  146. sanj says:

    mostly for DP

    warner bros delays dvds / netflix rentals

    – over 200 comments

  147. anghus says:

    Sam, that is arguably the greatest take ever on Ferris Bueller i’ve ever read.

    I remember Ebert, or maybe it was Siskel, giving Ferris Bueller shit because he broke the fourth wall.

    Does anyone remember the short lived Ferris Bueller TV show? It featured Jennifer Aniston in the Jennifer Grey role. And it was just awful.

    I was always more partial to Parker Lewis Can’t Lose

  148. JS Partisan says:

    Wow, Sam, did someone take Doctor Insano’s review to heart? Yeah, it’s called satire man. Satire created via SCIENCE but satire all the same.

  149. Geoff says:

    Thank you, Sam – Ferris Bueller WAS a dick! Just goes to show that any movie from the ’80’s featuring that song by Yello had a lead character who was a smarmy sociopathic asshole who the audience had to root for because he was cast by a likeable actor:

    Matthew Broderick, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
    Michael J. Fox, The Secret of My Success

    (Seriously, Fox’ character fucks his own aunt in that movie)

  150. anghus says:

    Come on Geoff. Who here hasn’t tried to sleep with their Aunt.

    That’s the very secret of success the movie eludes to.

  151. JS Partisan says:

    Ferris is so not a dick or a socialpath. He’s trying to live his life to the fullest before the eventual slog of life washes over him, and what made him special in high school fades away.

    It’s this living for the moment before the moment is through, that Cameron takes the heat for the car, and why Janey saves his ass in the end. Why people over the years have started to turn on the character of Ferris and made him into some heinous asshole, is one of those mysteries that the net does not answer.

  152. yancyskancy says:

    Not that I condone cuckolding one’s own uncle, but the aunt wasn’t a blood relative, and Margaret Whitton was hot. What’s a go-go ’80s yuppie to do?

    Herbert Ross was an underrated director, I think, especially with this type of slick comedy. His choreography background served him well in moving things along.

  153. LexG says:

    Ferris Bueller is minor John Hughes.

    It wasn’t even a Universal release.

  154. jesse says:

    John Hughes is minor John Hughes. Say Anything and Heathers are both better than anything Hughes did.

  155. christian says:

    FERRIS BUELLER was Hughes’ biggest hit of the 80’s from low-rent Paramount.

  156. sanj says:

    am i the only one waiting for some new sundance dp/30’s ?

    DP could outsource this whole thing to china. let them take
    all the video…

    so i ended up watching the sundance coverage from hitfix.

    that Drew McWeeny guy did a dozen interviews . not bad.

    so now i’m a fan of hitfix – all cause DP was slow.

    i saw 5 minutes of black rock movie interview – i know DP did a dp/30 with the same cast and now i can compare …

    black rock – 5 minutes

    i checked out the reviews for this movie and they aren’t great ..but just based on the look at her!!! factor this could have been a 20 million dollar big budget popcorn movie.

  157. sanj says:

    look at her!!! …no wait don’t look at her.

    L’Oreal anti-wrinkle ad Banned For ‘Misleading’ The Public Into Thinking Rachel Weisz Is Attractive

  158. Triple Option says:

    Jesse, would Vacation count for you? Hughes only wrote that, not directed. I’d put that clearly above Say Anything. Though that’s a tough comparison. Even in comparing Breakfast Club to Heathers, the black comedy nature of Heathers gives it a bit of an advantage because it lends itself to be taken more seriously. I could see making an argument for either, though.

  159. christian says:

    Despite the fact that his films came off as Reagan-era Propaganda, John Hughes was one of the best American comedy screenwriters of the 80’s.

  160. SamLowry says:

    And to think it all started with a story about his (fictional) Dad shooting Walt Disney!

    So, Ferris is “trying to live his life to the fullest” by breaking several laws and screwing his “friend” over for eternity? I’ve heard of armed robberies that had better endings.

  161. sanj says:

    watched million dollar contractor on hgtv ..

    1 guy and his team fixes up million dollar places and makes them even better looking ..

    theres an episode where they showed how they made a 50,000 dollar door … a very big door.

    plus a&e has a few real estate fix up shows for some reason..

    there’s a dozen real estate fix up shows on tv ….
    they are all the same. just different people .

    its like having a dozen versions of american idol…

    some of these shows seem faker than others … but there’s like 500 episodes combined.

  162. SamLowry says:

    So Bobcat’s new movie is “unbearably dark”? Not at all. The red-band trailer gives us a solution that is desperately needed, something Wall Street would call a “correction”:

  163. sanj says:

    Bobcat dp/30 for his film – God Bless America

    he’s fun – its only 20 minutes – give a shot.

  164. SamLowry says:

    From the movie’s own website: “a scathing and hilarious attack on all that is sacred in the United States of America.”

    If anyone, let alone Magnet Films, thinks the Kardashians and American Idol are sacred, maybe there is no hope for us after all.

    Makes me kinda glad I haven’t had cable for six years now.

  165. jesse says:

    TripleOption, I haven’t actually seen Vacation; shameful, I know. But it’s unlikely I’d love it more than Say Anything, as that’s one of my personal favorites ever. But even discounting my personal bias, I feel like Crowe wrote better teenager characters (and funnier lines) in one movie than Hughes managed in several (although his movies are amusing enough).

  166. JS Partisan says:

    Sam, he’s didn’t screw Cameron over forever. The entire musical sting with Cameron is HOPEFUL and that is intended to tell you HE WILL BE ALRIGHT! Seriously, his dad could probably part that car, and make a profit. This means Cameron is not screwed for life.

  167. SamLowry says:

    I get the feeling that a guy who built a museum around The Car isn’t going to whistle “Zip A Dee Doo Dah” out of his ass over the cash bounty to be made by chopping it into parts.

    (And there’s another Hughes reference for ya.)

  168. JS Partisan says:

    You are ignoring a musical cue that is there to let you know, everything is going to be alright. Seriously, you can’t ignore that and make up what happens next. Hughes is basically telling you; “Cameron and his dad will work it out.” The end, happy ending, and the like.

  169. sanj says:

    ferris bueller – nobody from the cast got a dp/30 . DP has some catching up to do…if he gotten Jen Aniston back then – then there probaby would have been 8 dp/30 with her by now. also Sloan was way hot back then.

    ferris got everybody to sing twist and shout …which would
    be kinda hard to do in 2012 .

    also pbs has the interrupters documentary on feb 14.

  170. LexG says:

    Does anyone remember offhand if Mia Sara shows her feet in Ferris Bueller?

  171. SamLowry says:

    Well, she fingered herself in the hot tub then blew Cameron while Ferris did her from behind, but feet? Don’t think so.

  172. SamLowry says:

    And though it sucks to be the screenwriting duo who spent 15 years trying to describe a media circus like “Ace in the Hole” only to discover no one would finance the story of a whale rescue unless it was Christian-pleasing and heartwarming, it’s even more horrifying that the LA Times felt the need to describe “Free Willy” to its readers.,0,410528.story?

  173. sanj says:

    big miracle cost 40 million ? this is a tv movie at most.

    hoilywood has tons of cash lying around.

    DP finally got around to posting a few new dp/30’s .

    i still want to see clips of the oscar dp/30’s on tv anywhere…

  174. LexG says:


    This is a GOOD IDEA. SANJ would love it, JS would love it, even an asshole like STORYMARK would love it.

    I am not underselling the following: I AM IN LOVE WITH KRISTEN STEWART. I love her SO MUCH I like her better than my family, my friends, my exes, everyone I’ve ever known COMBINED. She is MY ABSOLUTE PERFECT WOMAN, for SEVEN YEARS I have been fascincated by her, and it NEVER goes away, I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE KRISTEN STEWART; She is ABSOLUTE BEAUTY AND PERFECTION TO ME, I think she is THE COOLEST THING THAT HAS EVER EXISTED ON THIS PLANET.


    So when that SNOW WHITE movie comes out, I SHOULD GET TO DO THE DP/30, aka the LEXG/5, just so we could all see how I’d react in a room with her– would I PASS OUT, would I choke like WELLS ON O’REILLY, or would I RISE to the occasion and be all CHARMING AND FUNNY and K-Stew would be all earnest and hesitant but AWWW HE’S FUNNY and I’d melt her emo armor and she would like YAY YAY YAY CUTE CUTE I AM CUTE, this guy is FUNNY and I’d make her legitimately smile with my awesomeness?

    DP/30 K-STEW AND LEX make it happen.

  175. sanj says:

    LexG – sure try with K-Stew but she’s done lots of interviews – you need new questions to ask her …

    better chance for interview if K-Stew can stop the interview any time she wants

    hard to tell what crazy things you would say..

    also big fan of i’m gonna risk it video you made

  176. LexG says:

    sanj, who else does KS usually interview with?

    Actually bothers me that she does interviews with no name movie bloggers and critics; I’ve been a Kristen fan for EVER, and I can’t believe people have actually MET HER.

    To me meeting KRISTEN would be like MEETING JESUS. Dakota would be second most unreal, and a few others… How do the interviewers not PASS OUT?

    I am totally serious– if I saw Kristen Stewart in person, I would LITERALLY FAINT. I couldn’t take it… it would be like seeing GOD in the same room with you; I would go lightheaded and do the LARRY DAVID FAINT at the sight of her.

  177. spassky says:

    “Seriously, his dad could probably part that car, and make a profit”

  178. Don R. Lewis says:

    That new Bobcat Goldthwait movie looks amaaaaazing. Who would have thought he would be the writer/director to call America on their mounting piles of bullshit? WORLD’S GREATEST DAD remains a recent favorite and I can’t wait for GOD BLESS AMERICA. Might be the only film I’m truly excited for at SXSW.

  179. yancyskancy says:

    Sam: “…it’s even more horrifying that the LA Times felt the need to describe “Free Willy” to its readers.”

    Seriously, this sentence ‘horrified’ you? — “‘What I kept telling myself was it had ‘Free Willy’ parallels,’ said Warner Bros. former president of production Kevin McCormick, referring to the 1993 family film that earned a surprising $77 million and spawned two sequels.”

    Heck, the only description in the whole sentence is the words “the 1993 family film.” Just seems like standard journalism to me. Not everyone will be familiar with an 18-year-old family film.

  180. Paul D/Stella says:

    Michael Madsen + Free Willy = awesome.

  181. Joe Leydon says:

    “To me meeting KRISTEN would be like MEETING JESUS. Dakota would be second most unreal, and a few others… How do the interviewers not PASS OUT?”

    I talked to both of them, Lex. At the same time. They were very sweet.

  182. sanj says:

    ad for shame movie

    also i watched are you there chelsea on nbc …its getting worse . even the background actors are bored.

    witney and cheleas = not funny , nbc is going downhill.

    there’s a new show called breakout kings . maybe it’ll be good.

    also i stopped watching alcatraz…….

  183. Krillian says:

    Breakout Kings came out last year. Watched one episode.

    Also watched one episode of Alcatraz. Wondering if I want to watch more.

    Mia Sara does show her feet in Ferris Bueller… Does this make Lady in the Water is your favorite Shyamalan flick, since Bryce D. Howard is barefoot the entire movie?

  184. Paul D/Stella says:

    Don’t bother with Alcatraz. The third episode is boring junk. Not worth your time.

  185. sanj says:

    how aware are actresses that people on the net are just searching for feet pictures ?

    its gonna be a big night for oscars when all those actresses go around showing feet ..with those super expensive shoes .

    also i’m getting bored with that descendants banner ads all over movie blogs. just give them the oscar already.
    they bought enough ads and should win.
    hugo also bought ads . so they should also win something,

  186. LexG says:

    I do like Lady in the Water, and Bryce Dallas Howard, but in general I don’t like redhead girl feet. But I did like how she was fragile and demure in that… why didn’t Giamatti try banging her? I can’t remember.

    Unfortunately the thing I remember most about LADY was how Freddy Rodriguez would only work out one arm… that was seriously off-putting. The rest of the movie I didn’t have a problem with.

  187. storymark says:

    Yes, even an asshole like myself would watch Lex interview K-Stew (and I don’t even watch the DP/30s).

    But with one worry – if the interview didn’t go well, I think that might be the last straw for ol’ Lex.

  188. sanj says:

    i think it would be in LexG interest not to screw up the K-Stew interview ..

    with millions of twilight fans there probably is 1000 super obsessed fans of K-Stew ..

    LeXG and K-Stew should play some xbox games …or sing some songs or something …

  189. storymark says:

    An interview at a kareoke bar would be kinda cool. Get her to sing some Joan Jett.

  190. JS Partisan says:

    Sorry Paul, but you’re recommendations about TV are almost all universally horrible. Alcatraz is awesome stuff right now. That’s right now. Paul could be right in the future, if the answers to the mysteries are rather hokey but right now, it’s worth it for Jorge Garcia alone.

    That aside, spassky, it’s a freaking Ferrari GT California. Cameron’s dad could probably sell that thing for PARTS as in PART IT OUT, and still make a tidy profit.

  191. yancyskancy says:

    Lex: I was Googling an actress the other day (for informational, not prurient, reasons) and learned of the existence of Wikifeet. I couldn’t resist taking a peek. Yep, it’s a site devoted to ranking female celebrity feet (maybe males, too; I didn’t look around much).

    I found it interesting that their number one pick is Emma Stone, yet I don’t recall you ever expressing any particular interest in her tootsies. Maybe you should take a closer look.

  192. movieman says:

    Now Hot Bloggers are giving Lex G tips on foot fetish websites and the best places to web-interview Kristen Stewart. (Not to mention Sabu pleading with him “not to screw up” a possible Stewart web-‘view.)
    No wonder America is obsessed with the Kardashians and “Jersey Shore.”
    Give Lex his own reality show on some LA-based public access station and call it a night, folks.

  193. sanj says:

    remember that guy perez hilton with his gossip site ? where he draws funny things on pictures ?

    he’s got a reality show called perez hilton superfan
    1 hour interviews

    LexG would have more freedom as interviewer cause he ain’t no movie critic .

    a LexG / K-Stew interview would be great on funnyordie…

    maybe crazy people like me actually find other crazy people like LexG funny.

    also this has over 1000 article on google news

    “Donald Trump endorses Mitt Romney in Las Vegas”

    kinda sucks how when people running for president
    drop out – they don’t get an automatic dp/30…

  194. Paul D/Stella says:

    I diss one show and my TV taste is universally horrible? You sure are special IO. I guess the other shows I’m currently watching and loving (Justified, Boardwalk Empire, Homeland, and Friday Night Lights) means I have terrible taste. No one likes those shows. Sorry man but Alcatraz is a dull show. I like Garcia too but the female lead is bland and the chasing a new inmate every episode formula grew tiresome quickly. I must have great taste if you think disliking Alcatraz means otherwise.

  195. JS Partisan says:

    Paul, you have dissed some shows in the past, and one of them being Broadwalk Empire. Nice of you to like it now. You sure are special, Stella’s Boy. Seriously, let the fucking IO shit go, because it’s such a stupid nickname. Is it as bad as STELLA’S BOY? Hell no, but much like STELLA’S BOY, it should be in the past.

    Now, you dissing Sarah Jones, is just some bullshit. She’s awesome. Look at her and what not. Nevertheless, it’s not a dull show, it has a very interesting premise, and I hope it pays off.

  196. LexG says:

    Yancy, huge fan — of that site, of Emma, and of her you-know-what; She’s top 5 for me in all departments (or at least was til that bastard JS told me he thinks she’s having work done, which I don’t believe at ALL.) Easy A and especially Crazy Stupid have scenes where she shows her feet.

  197. yancyskancy says:

    Shows how much of a foot man I am — I loooooove Emma Stone, have seen most of her films, and never noticed her feet.

    I can’t imagine she’s already having work done either.

  198. Hallick says:

    Didn’t the whole chasing down a new escapee every week do in “Reaper” a couple of seasons ago too?

  199. JS Partisan says:

    Hal, there appears to be someone in a room in 1963 Alcatraz, and that someone may have phased them into the future. There has to be a reason to all of this but the main feature about Alcatraz that I dig: they are repopulating a prison. The same actors are seen when they bring someone new in and people we’ve met in the past, or possibly just saw via a brief glance, could become important later. It’s nice little touches like that, which makes this a fun mystery show.

    My only hesitation, is that once the mystery of how they were transported from 63 to now is revealed. There seems to be only so many places they can go, and that’s not exactly a good place for a show like this to be.

  200. sanj says:

    nice audoi interview with comic actor Thomas Lennon …

    he talks about the ups and downs of making tv shows and
    movies’s just as good as any DP/30 .

  201. Paul D/Stella says:

    Monco started the rumor that I dislike Boardwalk Empire, but it’s BS. Never said it, because I’ve loved it from episode 1 and have always said as much. No idea where he got that. It’s one of my favorite shows. I did say that I didn’t like Game of Thrones at first, but after I got a little more familiar with the world & characters, I ended up really liking that show.

    Sarah Jones is easy on the eyes, but she’s not much of an actress. She’s just kind of blah. Not a ton of charisma or especially believable as a cop. I love the premise of the show. Alcatraz is a fascinating place, and I was really looking forward to it. The first two episodes were mildly intriguing, but after the third I wasn’t all that interested anymore. I was already tired of the chasing down one bay guy per episode thing. Didn’t feel like there was much forward momentum. Maybe I’ll give it another try someday, but I’m watching other, better shows at the moment.

  202. sanj says:

    look at fx network – they have 25 new actors who haven’t done any dp/30’s …DP must really hate fx network or not watch it at all. it’s hard cause i’m sure he’s addicted to HBO and everything on there is amazing.
    why aren’t fx execs yelling at DP to get their actors a dp/30 ?

    i’m liking the finder on fox . dude and his team have to find people and its more fun than alcatraz.

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