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BYOB 1512

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  1. sanj says:

    huge debate if tmz went too far with personal info.. DP you got any thoughts on this ?

    Zooey Deschanel is worth millions – her lawyer attached Zooey’s income and expense declaration.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/04/zooey-deschanel-financial-net-worth-divorce/

    here’s 1 hour audio interview Zooey – she’s funny and nice.

    http://www.nerdist.com/2011/06/nerdist-podcast-97-zooey-deschanel/

  2. sanj says:

    i find this awesome duck and cover video – shows that
    people way back in the 50’s or 60’s couldn’t figure
    out basic science. if atomic bomb goes off your pretty
    much dead….

    duck and cover – 10 minutes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K_LZDXp0I

  3. LexG says:

    Why does George Lucas keep acting like RED TAILS is “his” movie? George, if you didn’t DIRECT IT, nobody gives a shit. It’s not yours. What’s he got better to do that he couldn’t have directed it? The director is the NAME THAT PAYS… I don’t care if he wrote, produced and served fucking doughnuts, he needs to stop acting like it’s HIS movie. It’s not.

  4. rszanto says:

    To be fair, he did take over the directing reins towards the latter part of the shoot.

    Added on to that fact that he’s been trying to get this film in the can for the better part of two decades, and you could easily say that the overwhelming majority of “Red Tails” is his.

    Which is probably also why it looks terrible. Now’s never been a better time for Lucas to return to his USC/”THX-1138″ roots (just likes he’s been promising to do for nearly thirty years now), but with each new film that route looks hazier and hazier.

  5. Paul D/Stella says:

    Red Tails will be lucky to make as much as Flyboys.

  6. Greg says:

    Finally got around to counting up my movie tickets from 2011. I saw 201 movies in the theatre. A new personal record.

    Some movies I did see more than once (a few more than twice).

  7. sanj says:

    went to the computer store to check out mp3 players …

    those ipod nano and shuffle’s are super tiny and somehow
    apple can charge 100 + bucks for these things that play music …

    why doesn’t apple just include 10 free movie rentals
    when you pay like 500 bucks for an ipad2 ..
    get people addicted the first week of use and they’ll be
    back….

    how do people not lose an apple product or break the screen ..

    apple’s got that facetime webcam thing – anybody use it ? shouldn’t that be perfect for DP to do dp/30’s with super mega rich actors ?

    i ended up getting a regular mp3 player …it works.

    somebody send me an ipad touch or ipad 2 .

  8. Bennett says:

    Now that Tin Tin and Darkest Hour is fading I wonder if Hugo will get back to more 3D screens for a Oscar push.

  9. Don R. Lewis says:

    It’s funny RED TAILS comes up here as JUST last night I saw the trailer and thought “man, that just looks….pointless and bad.” I almost feel bad for Lucas as that movie is going to bomb. Literally and figuratively.

  10. Keil Shults says:

    i don’t know much about Red Tails, but I hope it has a talking duck in it.

  11. Earlhofert says:

    A talking duck would have helped.

    Quiet around here. lex must have gotten his copy of the new Cosmo. . .

  12. anghus says:

    Lucas didn’t direct Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi.

    You don’t hear many people refer to Empire as an Irvin Kershner film now, do you.

  13. Keil Shults says:

    No, but he not only directed the first installment in the series, but he also created all the characters, locations, backstories, etc.

    Plus, I don’t think people even look at films like Empire or Jedi in terms of director. Even Star Wars, really. They just think of each film as “a Star Wars movie,” and they think of the entire series as “a George Lucas creation.”

  14. sanj says:

    red tails trailer – they pretty much show the entire movie in the trailer .

    this could have been a 2 hour movie for history channel

    also i want a dp/30 where actors talk about the technology they really like . do they run out and buy the latest products or are they too busy acting …. maybe some actors really hate facebook / twitter …

  15. JS Partisan says:

    Yeah, Red Tails is not exactly for you folks. It does look tremendous. The flying scenes alone make it worth seeing but again, nice way to overlook the audience for this film.

    Also, Ang, you aren’t around enough Empire fans because they always go on about Irvin Kershner. Of course they ignore that Lucas views directors like an Executive Producer would on a TV show, but they are Empire fans. They are a bit… different.

  16. RP says:

    Why did everyone get all pissed off about Denby reviewed ‘TGWTDT’ early, but paid no attention to his review of ‘War Horse’. He spends 90% of the review reminding the reader that the movie is indeed about the life of a horse, and then dismisses it entirely with this: ”
    We never ask why the production is devoted to an animal while ten million men are dying, but when Spielberg does the story realistically, it seems trivial, even a little daft.

    We never ask why the production is devoted to an animal while ten million men are dying, but when Spielberg does the story realistically, it seems trivial, even a little daft.

    “We never ask why the production is devoted to an animal while ten million men are dying, but when Spielberg does the story realistically, it seems trivial, even a little daft.”

    Hmmm…So does your review David. No wonder film criticism is dying.

  17. hcat says:

    I know its a little snobbish but what the hell is a daily 3 hour block of CSI: Miami doing on AMC. First announcing that they are greenlighting reality shows, then they program a cheesy police procedural every day. The seem to be moving away from the model of high end originals supported by pure and guilty pleasures from the past few decades.

  18. storymark says:

    I came across CSI on AMC last night myself, and was rather irritated to see it there.

  19. Don R. Lewis says:

    hcat- the same thing MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE is doing on IFC. I have no fucking clue.

    When’s someone going to wise up and make a “Channel Z” for the cable crowd?

  20. sanj says:

    fun use for twilight book

    http://i.imgur.com/O9kot.jpg

    csi + law and order = 500 + episodes. they gotta put
    all that content somewhere ..

    The FreekShow – The Real Reason Why G4 TV Sucks Ass Now..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCxznNRoRrc

  21. hcat says:

    IFC felt like they gave up awhile ago, adding commercials, putting on reality shows, hell Hunt for Red October was on it a few nights ago, hardly the paragon of indie cinema.

    Now I don’t get the Sundance Channel so perhaps they switched all the actual indie programming over there. But you would think that since IFC films now has a catalog of something over 200 films, and dozens more direct to video, not to mention all the older SPC Searchlight Focus movies that don’t get play on other channels, they would have some actual content to air.

    But the more that IFC and AMC begin to look like A&E (remember when that was considered high end? or Bravo?) it feels like an encroachment, that even with a hundred channels, there is not even a tiny place taht can survive without cheap reality or procrdural reruns.

  22. berg says:

    there was a Red TAILS junket in houston yestersday but when the publicist said they wouldn’t screen the film before hand I backed out …. talked to somebody who didn’t back out this morning and they told me the publicists told them to tell the talent that they had seen the film … first question Terence Howard asked? “What did you think of the film?”
    they did screen the film however last night to a crowd that included Bush I …. and evidently RT is sneaking everywhere tonight

  23. hcat says:

    Now I am suprised by the link that Dberg placed in, Warners is increasing the rental black out window from four to eight weeks. Seems like quite an excessive fuck you to Netflix and Redbox, but hey, its not like Warners doesn’t give you plenty of oppurtunity to see their stuff, just if you want it cheaply you have to wait. Plus the video window has gotten so shrunk that waiting 6 months to get it through netflix is no great hassle, and I doubt that Fox, Universal and Disney will follow suit.

    This might actually save me money since it means that copies will likely be available to me free at the local library before they take up space in the Netflix account.

  24. Bennett says:

    I just think that there is so much content out there via streaming,DVR, and other studios that I would be surprised if warner see’s any increase of their DVD sales by making the public wait an extra month. If you really want to see the movie then you will find a way to see it theatrically, if not another month won’t make any difference.

  25. sanj says:

    american stuffers – reality show about stuffing dead pets … only on animal planet

    check the quick video

    http://animal.discovery.com/tv/american-stuffers/

  26. LexG says:

    Who is everybody’s favorite Fanning: Dakota or Elle?

    I can never decide! They’re so cute! CUTE, CUTE! I love their BLONDE milkiness and how demure they are. I wish all women looked like the Fannings.

    Saw WE BOUGHT A ZOO last week with a couple female friends. Any scene where Elle would do her SMILE, my face was like Wahlberg in the drug scene in Boogie Nights.

  27. Krillian says:

    Let me guess. When Warners loses money next year it’ll all be the fault of . . . “PIRACY! Pass SOPA now!”

  28. hcat says:

    Don’t see why Warners would lose money, they certainly can’t make that much on Redbox and Netflix rentals and probably more than make up the difference in increased sales.
    Their endgame might be to drop sell-through and video on demand four months after release and push low cost rentals back to coincide with the films HBO premiere. Thereby increasing the revenue from earlier sales and higher cost rentals and using their content to increase the value of their cable channel.

  29. LexG says:

    As an off topic aside since no one but Earl cares about the Fannings:

    What the hell is the with the spam on here lately? Day and night it’s these old threads getting hit by these sinister gaming console accounts? That shit freaks me out, it’s like cold and evil and makes me scared that I’ll accidentally click on some ill-advised link as my cursor runs over their name.

    Why the recent uptick?

  30. JS Partisan says:

    The reason why CSI: Miami is on AMC is because people watch those damn shows in the afternoon. They just do. It’s a three hour block each week day, where AMC can do nothing but promote their shows. Sure, it’s weird, but they might as well try something to make themselves more USA Network like.

    Also, Comic Book Men, aside from the fact that title is sexist due to it being another example of white comic nerds excluding women, isn’t that much of a reality show. It’s more of a capturing of the nerdiness that happens in comic book stores on a daily basis. It also gives Walt Flannigan a pay check, and that seems to have some sort of priority in Kevin Smith’s life.

  31. I have to disagree Lex. Fanning was great in Super 8, Elsewhere, and even good in that bat-shit crazy Nutcracker 3D from late 2010, but I found her to be incredibly grating and obnoxious, the worst thing in a pretty mediocre movie. Hell, since she’s usually pretty good, I’m half-convinced that someone paid the editor (or Crowe?) to choose the worst takes for each of her scenes as some kind of professional sabotage. Damon’s strong performance aside, I wasn’t crazy about the film (just disconnected enough from reality to annoy me), but Fanning (and her singular function as the token love interest) was the lowlight of the picture. So to answer your question, I’m still on Team Dakota.

  32. LexG says:

    Elle Fanning is a RAY OF SUNSHINE in We Bought a Zoo.

    She is delightful. Also glad somebody else saw that INSANE Nutcracker movie, with Turturro hamming like a rancid Louis Rich as a motorcyle-driving half-Hitler-half-RAT MAN, and Nathan Lane and GIANT TANKS and bombed out Soviet landscapes… The weird thing is, that Lily Collins-Tarsem Snow White movie looks almost exactly like that.

  33. arisp says:

    210 movies this year? In actual theaters? You must be a masochist. Curious how old a person is when he stops going to the movies like that? I saw 1 film at the theater this year – twice – and it was Tree of Life. The rest can wait for my flat screen. (Getting screeners helps). Next year it will probably be 4-5 – Dark Knight, that Cuaron Scifi thing, Prometheus, WWZ. Probably it.

  34. JS Partisan says:

    I get to at least 80 to a 100 a year and have to ask arisp, how can you not go to the theatre more? Flat screen or not, nothing beats seeing things at a movie theatre but I now realize I live in a town free of shit movie theatres, so that may be why you stay home. Still, if you love films, then why not go out more?

  35. hcat says:

    I agree with IO that nothing beats the theater, just the hum of the projecter makes it worthwhile, but like Arisp I never get to the theater more than twice a year anymore. Work keeps you busy all day, kids keep you up all night (if I were to sit in a dark theater after 5 I would be out before the opening credits), wife not an avid movie lover, makes it tough to carve out a couple hours to get to the theater (much less twice a week).

    Now back before kids I used to work up the street from the AFI theater in Silver Spring and would often make up some excuse to duck out early to catch a matinee. And the first tuesday in may I would always take a personal day to catch whatever was first out of the gate down at the Uptown. Ten year tradition before moving out to the sticks.

  36. actionman says:

    don’t have kids!

  37. sanj says:

    why are ipads so expensive …500 bucks. i think they are worth 200 bucks.

    if they mass produce these things the costs should come down.

    its not the software people like – its the hours and hours of the touchscreen action they like . apple got that down good.

    apple products are made for super rich people …
    maybe be 2020 ipads will be down to 99 dollars or something.

    i want new dp/30 backgrounds – i want people to show up
    where they shouldn’t be. i want Jessica Biel dp/30 in a mcdonalds for 30 minutes … have the ceo of netlifx do a dp/30 inside a real blockbuster ..

    the movie theatre experience means nothing to me – i rather watch movies at a best buy with random people.
    they got so many tv’s and they aren’t using them to
    make money by playing movies. i’m the only one who thinks this .

  38. christian says:

    “the movie theatre experience means nothing to me – i rather watch movies at a best buy with random people.”

    Now THAT’s performance art.

  39. sanj says:

    performance art – nah …best buy has tons of tvs ..put 10 people per tv – start a movie – charge money.
    they could do this now.

    forget weekend box office numbers. check out best buy weekend tv theatres per store.

    best buy theatres will save the movie industry.
    i said it first.

    the movie studios could screen movies at best buy for movie critics – 5 people coming – no problem.
    they could do this all day and it wouldn’t cost much.
    they should try this in la and nyc …if it works then everybody gets access.

  40. Gus says:

    Lex, did you post your top 10 of the year? I’d like to hear what someone who sees literally everything made of 2011.

    Mine:

    1. Margaret
    2. Tree of LIfe
    3. Drive
    4. Higher Ground
    5. Cave of Forgotten Dreams
    6. Bellflower
    7. Young Adult
    8. 3 Backyards
    9. Your Highness

    I’ll reserve the last spot for one of the ones I still haven’t seen: A Dangerous Method, The Future, A Separation, Nostalgia for the Light, or Poetry. I caught pretty much every other major release in America. Didn’t count Certified Copy because I saw it last year.

  41. arisp says:

    People talking, cell phone lights, people texting, people walking in late, talking to screen, noise, distractions, etc etc. I don’t care for any of it anymore.

  42. JS Partisan says:

    Yeah we used to have theatres with less leg space, more people cranked into one room, and smoking. It really used to be worse but to each their own, even if they do seem a bit nitpicky.

  43. sanj says:

    watched pricing the pricesless – tv show on national geographic

    some dude spends an hour trying to figure out what
    the biggest tourist attractions are worth.

    he did the effiel tower ..that tower in paris .

    effiel tower brings in 100 million in tourist dollars with
    all the tshirts and food.

    but then he wanted to cut all that down and bring it
    to times square. that would cost 400 million bucks.
    shipping + install.

    he also went to the vegas effiel tower and that would
    cost 60 million to make.

    a cool little tv series…

    http://natgeotv.com.au/tv/pricing-the-priceless/

  44. LexG says:

    For Gus:

    1: WAR HORSE
    2: TAKE SHELTER
    3: MELANCHOLIA
    4: DRIVE
    5: THE ARTIST
    6: J. EDGAR
    7: SHAME
    8: YOUNG ADULT
    9: THE DESCENDANTS
    10: MONEYBALL

    11-20ish honorary mention would be some mix of 50/50, MI4, We Bought a Zoo, Warrior, Bellflower, One Day, Fast Five, The Thing, Sucker Punch, Margin Call, Art of Getting By, Beginners, and Dragon Tattoo.

    On on the leahnz tip about everybody picking mostly the same bullshit Oscar bait movies, she kind of has a point, and except for maybe DRIVE, YOUNG ADULT and SHAME, my top ten looking at it now is mostly shit I’ll NEVER rewatch despite how much I loved them, and my 10-11 is mostly shit I’ll watch on Cinemax or TNT like a dozen times.

  45. Triple Option says:

    I don’t know if I’ve topped 50 movies in a theater in one year. There’s no way I could get to four a week, unless it was my job. I suppose if I didn’t have a day job and money wasn’t an object, I’d be able to see more movies at like loser:thirty on a Tues afternoon. Right now I think I’d feel antsy or guilty I guess would be a better word for spending so much time doing that. Although, if I could watch a movie at like midnight every night on my couch, I wouldn’t feel like I was cheating myself or being lazy. I’m sure I’ve topped 100 movies in one year with home viewing included. Maybe this year I’ll keep a running total. I don’t know if there are 200 movies released each year that I’d want to see. I guess that makes it all the more impressive. I think I’ll make 125 movies seen my total this year, (theater/home). So far, I’m at none!

  46. hcat says:

    Gus, The Future is absolutly worth a look. I wasn’t a huge fan of July’s previous effort, but this one was pretty captivating. But Your Highness tsk tsk. Even if you have a weakness for broad comedy, Paul or Bridesmaids are far superior.

    Lex, glad someone else enjoyed One Day, felt it was a strong movie missing just something that would make it truly exceptional. Perhaps a stronger male lead or more time of the two of them interacting, even just different editing interspercing that first day throughout the entire movie instead of all at the end might have given it more of an emotional kick.

    Actionman, too late, once you name them you get all attached.

  47. Gus says:

    Thanks for the list. Just do not understand the love for Take Shelter but of course you are far from the only one. I suppose I will give War Horse a look but was planning on giving it a pass.

    Dragon Tattoo was definitely my favorite from a craft point of view but I had such a hard time engaging it in any real way. Was unfamiliar with the source material going in and was racing to keep up with the narrative all the way through.

  48. LexG says:

    I don’t know if this is a minority opinion, but of the two DGG comedies, I liked THE SITTER a little better. I wasn’t huge on YOUR HIGHNESS, but it’s visually BEAUTIFUL and of course Portman is an eternal LOOK AT HER and was at her sexiest, and I am a pretty big McBride fan…

    But the laughs just weren’t there for me; It’s weird, because as a 1983 foresty action movie, I think it looks top notch and it flies by and I looooove Portman in it… I just didn’t laugh very much (that Malick-esque montage of stoned McBride frolicking with the sheep did bring down the house though…)

    Conversely, I think THE SITTER is probably his dullest LOOKING movie, in 1.85 and mostly flat and underlit except for those crazy-ass scenes in Rockwell’s gay gym, which had a surreal flair to them… But that one I laughed I lot, even though it’s ultimately pretty minor and NO WAY is that gorgeous black chick fawning all over Jonah Hill.

    I still haven’t seen MARGARET. I’ve been dying to, but it played ONE WEEK at the Landmark and my car overheats in 405 traffic, then one week in Culver City which is even father… It’s vaguely annoying, this TEAM MARGARET MEME, because you’d think the goal would be to get the movie A BETTER RELEASE… But mostly it just seems like a bunch of pleased-with-self critics pining for extra CRITICS SCREENINGS and FREE SCREENERS.

    Weird that it played for a month (allegedly) in Boston, but was IMPOSSIBLE to see here in LA, and they’ve made zero effort to release to, you know, the ACTUAL PUBLIC.

    One Day was devastating. I cried so hard I was still bawling all the way through the end credits and was actually shaking from crying so hard. I can’t understand why it WASN’T a kick in the gut to any other critic or viewer. It was one of the saddest movies I’ve ever seen in my life. The end of that, and the JGL/Huston scene in 50/50 had me practically on the floor.

  49. LexG says:

    Hey, shot in the dark, but I think I’ve seen Yancy and some other Stowe fans mention it:

    This show REVENGE, a friend is telling me I need to start watching it, that there’s an element that’s right up my alley. Can anyone theorize what that might be and elaborate on it?

    Speaking of TV: Sunday night the return of SHAMELESS, one of my absolute favorite shows. ROSSUM POWER. Anyone know if the other HOT chick is (troubled daughter who Macy accidentally banged) is gonna be back, or is she too busy with her ABC show?

  50. sanj says:

    DP – i officially request Jenna Marbles for dp/30 . watch 10 different videos before you decide. she’s a funny
    comic.

    Creeps on the Internet – Jenna Marbles – 4 minutes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb42A5m-lw4

  51. yancyskancy says:

    Lex: REVENGE, after a pretty slow start, has become a favorite of mine. It’s got that soapy melodrama thing going without being a camp-fest. The last few episodes have been packed with fun twists.

    As for the element that’s up your alley: since it’s set in a beach community, I guess there are a lot of naked feet (not my thing, so I can’t say I particularly notice it). Also, there’s a cute 20-year-old actress named Christ B. Allen, who plays a frequently bikini-clad character who’s about 17. Maybe that’s it.

  52. sanj says:

    so nobody has ipad 2 / itouch they want to spend hours and hours talking about how super amazing it is ? if you pay 500 bucks you should be.

    also i want all the dp/30’s in 3d – DP should get James Cameron to turn them into 3d … sure it’ll cost a few million dollars but its totally worth it.

  53. Bennett says:

    Whoever cut the devil inside trailer should get a substantial bonus. All my friends who have seen it said it was one of the worst films they have ever seen.

  54. lazarus says:

    Is it possible for DP/30 to get a restraining order against Sanj?

  55. spassky says:

    RE: Bellflower.

    I don’t get it. My sister and I laughed through it about a month ago and I was totally confused as to why it would get a landmark screening this summer. Seriously, lex– how can you of all people enjoy a movie where the object of our protagonist’s affection is an ugly, cock-roach eating cow who is not interesting in anyway. It just struck me as like the broham school for avant garde film. don’t get me wrong– really liked the flame throwers and cinematography, but otherwise, the acting was lousy and the ending was so worthless.

  56. sanj says:

    reviews on the run on g4 – worst movies 2011 –

    20 minutes video – some users might be blocked ..

    worst movies –
    season of the witch – pirates 4 – the dilema – hobo with a shotgun – in time – the thing – the roommate

    http://video.citytv.com/video/detail/1371148535001.000000/reviews-on-the-run–january-6-2012/g4/

  57. cadavra says:

    “When’s someone going to wise up and make a “Channel Z” for the cable crowd?”

    Mr. Lewis, Turner Classic Movies. Turner Classic Movies, Mr. Lewis.

  58. dberg says:

    Can anyone explain why Lionsgate wants Summit…. is it to utilize Summit’s foreign side…. maybe I am missing something… what is the synergy?

  59. sanj says:

    if warhorse gets a 4some dp/30 – i want a Adam Sandler
    4 some with his directors and Kevin James / Rob Schneider

    its only fair ….

  60. sanj says:

    hey DP – whats up with all the british actors doing dp/30’s – they really want an oscar ….they all tell the same stories about how amazing shakespeare and theatre is…

    its great how rhys ifans does an entire movie about shakespeare but then spends time talking about football.

    how many times can the same actors tell the same stories over and over again during interviews.

    my guess if your an actor in asia and you have a movie thats good – you ain’t flying for 18 hours just for a few
    interviews …but somehow british actors will fly over
    and do interviews cause they are used to it ..

    there’s so many british actors that never got a dp/30 cause they never got lucky to be in a film that was
    award worthy…and thats the only time they get a dp/30.

    regular british tv actor who’s been doing that for 10 years = no dp/30 … but some british actor who just
    got lucky in a film = instant dp/30

    am i wrong? do you see a bias against international actors ?

  61. Don R. Lewis says:

    Yeah, TCM is undoubtedly the best movie channel, maybe ever. And they’re getting riskier with schlocky stuff too. I just wish they had that Channel Z sense of “cool.”

  62. sanj says:

    watched Bringing Up Bobby – Milla Jovovich has a bad
    kid – they pull of scams on people ..

    not a good family movie – didn’t care what happened by the first hour – – everybody is wasted – Milla has
    a bad accent.

    trailer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1MfReTtHew

  63. sanj says:

    big night for fx tv – shameless – house of lies and californation – a dozen actors that have no dp/30 .

    why so hard to get ? arggggghhh….

  64. David Poland says:

    Bill Macy, Emmy Rossum, and David Duchovney have all been in the process of being scheduled over the years and never happened. Oddly.

  65. sanj says:

    shameless has too many people – too many stories –
    how are the teen actors even allowed to watch that show ..

    Duchovney was over exposed with x-files – everybody knew
    everything about that dude

    have you seen Emmy’s video – slow me down –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiLcw4juIMk

  66. LexG says:

    Watched first 10 seconds of House of Lies: Shocker, Don Cheadle getting laid. (Shocker, she’s white.) I’m out. My heart condition can’t take the Showtime “watch people have sex” trifecta.

  67. hcat says:

    Had Showtime for free this weekend so checked out Shameless, looked alright but seemed like they were trying too hard with all the salicious material. Though this is an impression I have of most of the showtime series (though I admit I have only checked out a few so i might easily be mistaken), it seems like they set up a narrative that showcases what they can get away with as a premuim cable series, while HBO uses what they can get away with as a cable series to serve the narrative. Since I have seen a minimal amount of Showtime shows is there anyone else who finds this accurate?

    And as far as TV goes Downton Abbey started again last night and was as good as ever. Between that Justified and Archer coming back my television viewing is going to triple each week.

  68. Mike says:

    My wife and I really fell in love with Shameless during season 1. It’s not high drama, but it is a lot of fun and the characters (well except William H. Macy) are compelling. I haven’t felt like the narrative has been driven by attempts to show sex and nudity, but I think part of Shameless’s sense of humor is to gleefully put as much of it in your face as it can. I think that makes more sense than the random sex/nudity on something like The Big C.

    But I don’t think Shameless’s use of it is all that different from how Boardwalk Empire uses its sex scenes, which don’t always feel particularly organic and necessary.

  69. Paul D/Stella says:

    Overall I enjoyed season 1 of Shameless. It made me laugh and I was consistently entertained. I especially liked the performances of Cameron Monaghan (Ian) and Jeremy Allen White (Lip). Very believable and sympathetic teenagers. And yeah I don’t think Showtime can be singled out for its use of nudity/sex considering Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, etc.

  70. hcat says:

    I probably should have also pointed out that I do not have HBO and rent few tv series on disc so don’t have a current reference for HBO either, just going from the older series I have checked out over the years. Just wondering how they compared since I always read about how premium cable is the promised land for original television but a lot of the stuff like Tudors, Shameless, and Spartacus looks extremely pulpy. Not that there’s a problem with pulp, just want to know what I am missing out on.

  71. JS Partisan says:

    HC, HBO has two shows with True Blood and Game of Thrones that are as bad with the unnecessary sexual content as anything on Showtime. Who, really, started this shit trend with the Tudors. The funny thing with Shameless though, is that it’s based off of an English that is in no way as shameless. The English made those characters seem like people, while the Showtime show has a bunch of middle class caricatures.

  72. Paul D/Stella says:

    Middle class caricatures? The family in Shameless is quite poor and nowhere near middle class.

  73. sanj says:

    vince that shamwow guy is back with new product

    Schticky commercial

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAQjF5RPgbg&feature=player_embedded

  74. JS Partisan says:

    Wow you don’t get pissed off at the caricatures part, but the MIDDLE CLASS part sets you off? Really? Still, that show is not as good as the UK version which you should check out.

  75. Paul D/Stella says:

    I didn’t exactly get pissed off. And it’s kind of a big difference IO. Their poverty is a central part of the show. What makes you say they are all caricatures? I’d say most of the main characters (Lip, Ian, Fiona) are anything but. I’d like to check out the UK version, but so many shows, so little time, you know.

  76. chris says:

    Did anyone notice the unintentionally hilarious sentence in the story (linked on the main MCN page) about January no longer being a wasteland. The one about how the last few years have produced more $20 million January openings than the previous nine decades combined? Yeah, who can forget Frank Borzage racking up one $20 million opening after another in the 1920s?

  77. leahnz says:

    wondering does it make anyone else wince when just random people blithely refer to martin scorsese as ‘marty’ in passing conversation? i can imagine calling scorsese ‘marty’ if he looked me dead in the eye and said, “please, call me marty.’ ok then. otherwise…’hey marty you funny old four-eyed fucker, how the hell are ya?!’ i don’t know

    no spielberg for DGA, could it be a case of best pic nom w/out director? dun dun dun, the suspense is killing me

  78. sanj says:

    girl with light saber / star wars

    http://dailybooth.com/sandwa/18169753

  79. yancyskancy says:

    leah: I hear ya. I can’t even bear to refer to him as “Marty” in a blog post or a conversation among friends. Maybe it’s because so few people seem to know the correct pronunciation of Scorsese.

  80. Don R. Lewis says:

    Nothing beats the time Jeff Wells referred to Phillip Seymore Hoffman as “Philly”…while talking to him.

  81. Mike says:

    I don’t really think of the characters on Shameless (US) as charicatures, but they are awful broad. But referring to them in that way does negate some good characters Paul mentioned.

    Then again, I’ve been on the other side of the “British did it better” debate, and usually it’s not worth arguing.

  82. leahnz says:

    glad it’s not just me then re: ‘marty’ (on blogs is the worst)

    “Nothing beats the time Jeff Wells referred to Phillip Seymore Hoffman as “Philly”…while talking to him.”

    no way

  83. JKill says:

    I think I’ve written “Marty” before, to be honest, but it’s only because I’ve screwed up spelling his name and didn’t feel like a google search. In real life conversation, of course, I would never refer to him as that, and if introduced to him, I would have trouble speaking and wouldn’t dare being so grossly and inappropriately chummy and embarrassing.

  84. sanj says:

    watched a seperation dp/30 …last 5 minutes was the best part.

    then i rewatched DP/30 2010: Easy A, actor Emma Stone, director Will Gluck

    Emma Stone is really funny in the first minute.

    too bad she’s too famous for another dp/30.

    i kinda like it how some actors do 1 dp/30 – get famous and never do anymore.

  85. cadavra says:

    When I first met Scorsese some 25 years ago, almost the first thing he said to me was, “Call me Marty.” So unless something has happened in the interim, he’s fine with it.

  86. JS Partisan says:

    Chris, go back to the 90s and early to mid oughts, and notice how little came out in January. Seriously, I think the reason why the Oscar films are going to get slaughtered this year is because January is unusually strong. If this keeps up, god forbid, they are going to have to open the Oscar movies in EARLY DECEMBER AROUND THE COUNTRY. Seriously, that would be rather logical madness.

  87. hcat says:

    The new January onslaught is most likely a result of how frontloaded films are nowadays. Traditionally people would still be checking out the Christmas blockbusters and the occasional Oscar movie, but now that these things have such huge openings and smaller legs, all the intense interest moves to something new.

    I doubt that its that the Oscar films are weak, The Devil Inside audience didn’t sit at the box office and choose it over My Week with Marilyn.

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So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

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“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

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