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Teaser Trailer: Man of Steel

Meh.

It looks like “Superman Begins,” aka Batman Begins on a Quaalude.

The only thing that seems apparent from this teaser is that Zack Snyder is not doing anything very Zack Snyder. On the other hand, that could just be a smokescreen. No idea.

So the kid has all the power in the world and has to go off deep sea fishing to find himself until a threat to the earth comes along? Is that it? Heavy hangs the crown.

Not sold. Not close.

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81 Responses to “Teaser Trailer: Man of Steel”

  1. anghus says:

    respectfully disagree. love the teaser.

    also loved the comic-con footage. I’m in.

    But i also thought Superman Returns looked like it was going to be awesome. And holy shit did that suck harder than a nuclear powered Dyson.

  2. Paul D/Stella says:

    Normally seeing “from the director of Watchmen and 300” would make me want to run in the other direction. But this teaser is pretty intriguing. I’m not sold either, but it’s a step in the right direction.

  3. LexG says:

    One of the world’s greatest directors takes on the king of all comic books that even I can’t deny.

    Looks awesome but… small. Off-kilter. Narrow. Crooked or something; And it’s in total Snyder Sheen, which is too defused and copper for The Man of Steel.

    Got the Crowe version yesterday, and nobody cheered after this.

  4. film fanatic says:

    But… But… Borys Kit reported this trailer made an audience member cry at Comic-Con. Ergo, it MUST be good!

  5. movieman says:

    I….like it.
    Didn’t think I would, but it’s really a darn good teaser.
    (Love the cloud shots.)
    One question: Does Henry shave his beard before donning the iconic cape and tights?

  6. LYT says:

    film fanatic – this wasn’t the trailer shown at Comic-Con.

  7. JKill says:

    I think this looks beautiful. I didn’t know of teaser’s existence until I saw it before DKR, and I found it genuinely exciting and enticing. I’m there, although I’m pretty blatantly pro-Snyder.

  8. Tuck Pendelton says:

    That last shot didn’t “wow” me or anything like that but it looks grounded less “old fashioned” as traditional Superman films – which is a good thing by my book.

    Still it’s a teaser. The only thing they can showcase is great advertising.

  9. leahnz says:

    the grass/clothesline/boy/bird/dog/dead butterfly shots look like snyder trying to get his meditative malick ‘tree of life’-ness on.

  10. Joe Leydon says:

    Leahnz: Welcome back, Sweet Britches.

  11. movieman says:

    You’ve been missed, Leah.
    Glad to see you back.
    Hope all is well in your corner of the world.

  12. bulldog68 says:

    My sista from another mista is back. Hi Leahnz. 🙂

  13. leahnz says:

    dudes. I didn’t really go anywhere – just been trying to keep up with reading the blog, busy and tired and trying to blog less – but everything’s ok here, feeling kind of stink for you guys with the latest shooting though, what a bummer.

  14. Joe Leydon says:

    OK, I have to ask: As much as I admired this teaser — the ad, not Leahnz — I couldn’t help thinking “Levi’s commercial.” Am I the only one?

  15. JS Partisan says:

    Joe, it’s very much like those “Go Forth” Levi commercials, but that’s not a bad thing. I liked those commercials. What intrigues me about this trailer, is Supes of all people waiting around for his life to happen. It’s a weird way to go with the character. It’s not horrible, but it’s very Earth One Supes; and that’s not my fave story.

  16. bulldog68 says:

    Way too early to tell, but for some reason I kept looking for a way that somehow, with the darker hues, whether Batman could fit into this world. This Superman reboot has to stand on its own of course, but you have to think that the WB is setting the groundwork for a Justice League, and going forward, they are creating their own template to make it possible.

    That Avengers money is just too good to pass up. Even if they only do 75% of it, it’s a huge win.

  17. JS Partisan says:

    BD, DC stated they aren’t doing anything for two years after “Man of Steel.” What that means, is anyone’s guess, because we are all going to have to discuss the ending of TDK-R, and what that means for the future of Nightwing.

  18. brack says:

    I think Superman as a franchise is doomed. I think we got lucky with a couple of Christopher Reeve films and that’s that, but I will probably check it out nonetheless.

  19. Joe Leydon says:

    OK, JSP, let’s take this very seriously for a minute. You’re an adopted child from another planet, and you know you have powers far beyond those of mortal men. What exactly do you do? Do you try to assimilate — to be like your adopted mom and dad, the people who found you in the space capsule and raised you as their own? Do you really want to be “different” — and know, by doing that, you will be forever and completely alone?

  20. bulldog68 says:

    Clearly speculation on my part, and I have no way near the knowledge and history of comics as you do JS, however why not just go very simple and start introducing characters into your main hero movies. Couldn’t Cyborg be introduced in Man of Steel, (my vote is for Idris Elba. He’s Heimdall I know, but if it can work for Chris Evans..), and give him a grounded origin story a two years later.

    Wonder Woman can be a bit cheezy, but the thing that was successful about both Batman and Iron Man is that they were so grounded in reality, so good writing can overcome anything.

    Comic book enthusiasts will scream about faithfulness to the cannon, but most people just want a kick ass movie, and the comic book movies have gotten better as stand alone movies without any knowledge of the lore required.

    Once the characters are familiar and handled well, people will show up.

  21. JS Partisan says:

    Joe, even those without powers beyond the realm of possibilities, feel different and alone. What makes Supes special, is that he embraces it, because it’s what’s the world needs him to do. He’s Superman. He takes the hit. No matter how painful it might be, but he does have Lois Lane. I am sure that helps… a lot.

  22. Joe Leydon says:

    But what if this Superman is different?

  23. JS Partisan says:

    No, this Superman is not different. This is Earth One Superman, and it’s goofy. It’s goofy, contrived, and not really in sync with the character. Hopefully like that book, the movie will have a very strong third act. Superman not being assertive, is just weird. Very very weird.

  24. Joe Leydon says:

    JSP: You seem to want movie characters to behave like comic book characters. Not like real human beings.

  25. JS Partisan says:

    Joe, what you fail to get, is that they are written more human in comics. Seeing as this movie, is very similar to a comic (more of a graphic novel… kinda sorta), you should know more before stating such silliness. . You really really really should go to your comic book shop, and get yourself an education. You can do that after you pick up your complimentary gun, at the “Rick Perry FREE GUN EMPORIUM!” Off of route 9, right next to the Stuckey’s!

  26. Joe Leydon says:

    JSP: You disappoint me. You should know by now that I was reading comic books long before you were an itch in your dad’s pants. And, worse, you pull out the silly Texas stereotypes to deride me, even though you know I am not a native Texas, but am in fact a 504 Boy. I really thought you were smarter than that. I guess I was wrong.

  27. film fanatic says:

    JS:comic book canon :: Sarah Palin:Book of Revelations

  28. JS Partisan says:

    Joe, that’s your comeback? All of your years on the streets, and that’s your comeback? Really? You know who else has horrible comebacks like yours? MY MOM!

  29. SamLowry says:

    Crab boat? I assumed there was a Discovery Channel tie-in.

    And I wonder if we’ll get a clarification of why it’s okay for Superman to hear every conversation taking place on Earth, but bad for Batman to eavesdrop on phone calls across Gotham.

  30. Joe Leydon says:

    JSP: No, I refuse to do it. I refuse to insult your mom. OK. Now reboot and give me another insulting answer to which I can respond. I will be goddamned if I insult your mom or anyone else’s mom.

  31. Yancy Skancy says:

    I’m worried it might be a little like that awful Five for Fighting song:

    I can’t stand to fly
    I’m not that naive
    Men weren’t meant to ride
    With clouds between their knees

    I’m only a man in a silly red sheet
    Digging for kryptonite on this one way street
    Only a man in a funny red sheet
    Looking for special things inside of me

  32. SamLowry says:

    “Looking for special things inside of me”

    Prometheus tie-in?

  33. JS Partisan says:

    You know who else refuses to do it? MY MOM!

    Seriously Joe, you get snippy at me, then you are wide open for Texas jokes. You also ignored what I wrote, to carry out some agenda. If you want to carry on an agenda, that’s fine, but read what I wrote dude. This is Earth One Supes and while I dislike a Superman whose not assertive, that book made up for it with a good ending. Which I am going to assume, this movie will do as well. They have to finally have Supes beating the shit out of someone and the damage that would cause, so this movie will probably redeem it’s opening weirdness.

    Yancy is on point though. Also, Sam, you mean Trash Boat!

  34. Joe Leydon says:

    JSP: I have no idea what “Earth One” Superman is all about. And you know what? This movie almost certainly will be pitched to folks like me. And younger. Much younger.

  35. JS Partisan says:

    Joe, then why are you freaking out? Do you use chrome? Can you not highlight text to start a search? Seriously, I get you are upset, but don’t jump down my throat over your inability to google a reference, or to condemn me over stating why something bothers me.

  36. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Joe – the DC system (which was codified during “Crisis On Infinite Earths”) is that each version of Superman throughout the years (the one that got married, the one that came with the Krypton records from his father Jor El, the one that landed in Soviet Russia instead of USA etc.) all happened on different Earths. This was basically to explain all the continuity errors from all the writers who never bothered to do the research.

    At one point there were infinite Earths, then one, then two, now I think there are 52. So saying “it’s Earth X Superman” is defining which background and setting that particular superman supposedly belongs to. Considering there are only about 4 we know anything about, that leaves a lot of creative leeway.

    (Amusingly enough, the same framework also applies to Batman – which makes JSP’s “Oh, it’s just Earth One Superman” all the more ironic given his “That’s not Batman!” posts)

  37. Joe Leydon says:

    And on “Earth One,” the Supernan is reluctant?

  38. Joe Leydon says:

    And does this “multiple earths” dodge apply in other areas as well? Like, on another earth, is Sean Connery still James Bond… and drawing a pension?

  39. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Yup.

    Crisis On Infinite Earths was an attempt to say “All the ‘other stuff’ that happened like Superman meeting Sean Connery Bond? Happened on another Earth. Which got destroyed”. So following that event, writers were supposed to keep to the same single continuity/history which was the amalgam of what they thought was the ‘definitive’ history of any given character.

    …except eventually the pull of writing “What if Batman DID use guns?” stories became too great, so the multiple Earths thing came back in. The “52” number (apparently) came because they wanted to release comics telling that story every week for a year.

    I don’t actually read the comics, I mainly pick it up from other discussions, but I believe Earth One is the more mopey version. Earth Two is the “classic” golden-age stoic one who married Lois Lane, and apparently Earth Prime (which got destroyed) is insane and the other two have to keep beating him up. Or something.

  40. Superman is, with Captain America, the superhero most associated with the United States. I think it’s not the most popular subject right now around the world. But then again, Captain American performed well worldwide. But don’t expect “Truth, Justice and the American Way” as a tagline.

  41. etguild2 says:

    I’m in. This isn’t TOTALLY different for Snyder, saying that as a big fan of “Legend of the Guardians,” the most meditative animated movie I’ve seen.

  42. Krillian says:

    This trailer did it for me and did not for my wife. She was very underwhelmed. The first half felt like it was Terence Malick’s Cloudy Day.

    Joe has learned his lesson.

  43. Glamourboy says:

    I don’t care what revisionary comic book the movie is based on….but why do we always have to start back at the origins in the movies…that is why Superman movies don’t work for me….the backstory of how Superman became Superman is just kinda…dull…and we’ve seen it. And Lex Luthor as the villain is just tedious..

  44. Amblynman says:

    Eh, who cares. It’s the same old Superman stuff. HOW DOES A GOD WHO WANTS TO BE A MAN LIVE AMONG MEN WHILE BEING A GOD AND STILL A MAN WHO ISN’T QUITE SURE THAT BEING A GOD IS WHAT THIS MAN NEEDS BUT THE PLANET NEEDS HIM TO BE A GOD AND OH GOD THIS IS ALREADY BORING.

    TDKR kind of depressed me in that we’re unlikely to see a great superhero film again for a long time now that this one is done. Maybe Trank can make chicken salad out of chicken shit with the Fantastic Four. Although, yay, another origin story!

  45. anghus says:

    Js citing comic book canon for any film is once again fanboy armchair posturing. Please, Js, tell us the ‘right’ version of Superman.

    Dark Knight Rises is a perfect example of using the comics but putting your own spin on it. In DKR you have elements from the following Batman stories:

    Year One
    The Dark Knight Returns
    Son of the Demon
    Knightfall
    No Man’s Land

    and there’s more that im sure im missing. I think the best thing a filmmaker can do is take the stories and extract elements from the history of the comics and do your own thing with them.

    If Nolan’s trilogy and Raimi’s Spiderman trilogy aren’t textbook examples of how to adapt comics to film, i don’t know what is.

    And neither series was without flaws. We don’t need to spend any time revisiting the creative disaster that was Spiderman 3. And i liked Dark Knight Rises a lot, but there were gaping flaws in logic there and it was rough around the edges.

    But i think most people walked away from Raimi’s Spiderman films and Nolan’s Batman films thinking they got more right than they did wrong. I’m very much in that camp.

    I don’t know with comic books if there is such a thing as a ‘perfect’ adaptation. Because no doubt you have a lot of JS Partisan style fanboys who believe they know the ‘right’ incarnation of the character. So you have to go for pleasing the vast majority.

    I for one think Nolan’s take on the character was fantastic. I want to watch all 3 back to back to see how they all fit together. But i think the lesson for people tackling film adaptations is draw from the stories that came before but put your own spin on it.

  46. etguild2 says:

    @Amblynman, maybe it won’t be up to Batman levels, but “X:Men First Class 2” sounds fantastic. And even though Aronofsky bailed, it will take a lot to fuck up the fantastic script for “The Wolverine.”

  47. christian says:

    Even when I was teen and the “Alternate Earth” comics started popping up my first thought was, “Oh cash grab!”

  48. JS Partisan says:

    Anghus, keep writing about fanboy armchair posturing, and I will keep bringing up you supporting the Phantom Edit. If you are going to carry on, as if this ridiculous argument has any validity, then you need to address your support of real fanboy armchair posturing. Now, what’s the best Superman? The one from the Animated Series is up there, and I really love All-Star Superman. Why they decided to make a very Earth One Superman film, when they could have made a trilogy around All-Star Superman will always be a mystery. Also, Action Comics right now, features a really awesome and dynamic take on the character. Look! Examples!

    Now onto your love of Nolan’s Bats: phhhhhhhhhhhhhhttt. TDK-R is a fine film, but it’s way too contrivance heavy. Everything in that film is a contrivance, the villains are ridiculous, and the revolution is nothing more than white noise. If the film focused more on Bats, Nightwing, and Cats, then it would have worked better. Bane’s “Sean Connery Doing Scooby Doo” voice is overly silly, and Alfred is absolutely ridiculous in this movie.

    I also love your fanboy armchair posturing, because not everyone is going to walk away from these trilogies feeling that way. The Raimi Trilogy has been under attack for years now, but Nolan at least produced two quality films before going a bit off the rails in the third. Still, only a fanboy assumes that everyone agrees with his take on things, and only a fanboy gets pissy when someone states they disagree. Look at the mirror, before you cast your ill-timed aspersions. I’ve never demanded things be the way that I want to be, because that’s silly. Unfortunately, you love demanding everyone fall in line with your way of thinking, and this entire argument from you is fucking silly.

  49. anghus says:

    One the best comments i read through all these discussions about Batman was the assertion that Batman doesn’t believe in killing because his creators realized they couldn’t have told 70 years of Joker stories if Batman had killed him back in the 1940’s.

    The reason our comic book heroes are so righteous is because there’s money in keeping their villains around.

  50. Joe Leydon says:

    Er, JSP: You do realize you’ve given a spoiler in your last post, right?

  51. JS Partisan says:

    They actually did intend to kill the Joker off. They even intended to kill Robin off. These things change, and it’s not all about money. Seriously, it maybe a consideration for the people pulling the strings, but the people who pay money have certain feelings about these characters rather Mr. Anghus wants to accept this, or not. Batman doesn’t kill, Superman doesn’t waffle, and if the Flash is involved in a big event… shit is going to change!

    Joe, I changed it to who he dresses like the entire movie. If people haven’t picked up on it already, then that’s different.

  52. Joe Leydon says:

    JSP: Seriously: Even that is too much. The final “reveal” actually came as a (pleasant) surprise to me, and judging by the response of the folks sitting around me, they weren’t expecting it, either.

  53. JS Partisan says:

    Joe, if we are ever going to discuss the future of this franchise, then we are going to have to discuss this character.

  54. Joe Leydon says:

    Actually, no, we don’t. At least, not yet. And that’s why I think you made a clown move here: On this opening weekend especially, it’s not yet widely known how this flick turns out. You’ve revealed the existence of a plot element that people who haven’t seen the film aren’t supposed to know about yet.

  55. anghus says:

    While i was watching Dark Knight Rises on Friday, when one of the twists was revealed, someone actually yelled TWIST! at the top of their lungs.

    It was the best 30 Rock reference ever.

    Oh, and we need a spoiler zone. I have a list of unanswered questions i wanted to take to the room.

  56. Joe Leydon says:

    Anghus: Sounds like you saw Dark Knight with an audience similar to the one I saw the original Terminator with back in the day. Remember when Linda Hamilton was in the police station, and she was told that she didn’t have to worry because there were something like two dozen cops on duty? Someone in the audience with me yelled: “That’s not enough! That’s not enough!”

  57. Yancy Skancy says:

    David started a spoiler thread for DKR on July 18.

  58. Vicki Hobb says:

    It makes me think of a Michael Bay movie.

  59. anghus says:

    damn yancy. how the hell did i miss that?

  60. berg says:

    the person who wrote “Rick Perry FREE GUN EMPORIUM!” Off of route 9, right next to the Stuckey’s!”

    if you lived in houston you’d know the correct phrase would be “Get Sukkee …. off of Interstate 10 right next to Buckee’s”

  61. SamLowry says:

    Oh, and I’m certain that call-in to determine whether Robin lives or dies wasn’t a cash-grab. The fact that DC took a cut of the profits from every 1-900 call is completely irrelevant!

  62. NickF says:

    Vicki, it’s the Pearl Harbor teaser.

  63. Amblynman says:

    Nitpicking TDKR is a waste of time. It’s a fantastic movie and anyone gnashing their teeth over how closely it follows comic book canon isn’t anyone I’d ever want making a movie anyway. Yes, I’m terribly sorry Nolan focused more on human beings than MORE SUPERHEROES! And this is comig from someone who did not become a Nolan cultist after the somewhat overrated TDK.

    One of the internet’s worst creations is the Harry Knowles Brigade, scurrying around demanding ownership of these characters and their representation.

    And yeah, I’d like a spoiler zone to discuss TDKR too.

  64. Amblynman says:

    @etguild

    I’ll buy that because I like Vaughn a lot, and loved Fassbinder’s Magneto. My biggest problem with First Class despite that is its soooo unnecessary. The X-Men have such a huge universe that I don’t know why they needed to go back to the beginning and stay within the Singer universe. Just do a Days Of Future Past trilogy and get ready to print money.

  65. Joe Leydon says:

    NickF: That was my first impression as well. But this one is a bit… well, is dreamier the right word?

  66. Michael H says:

    Hey, IO, or JS, or whatever name you’re using lately to post your gibberish, what you posted there was a complete spoiler, and it isn’t the first time you’ve directly spoiled this movie in a non-spoiler thread.

    In David’s non-spoiler review, you started ranting about the ending, including a certain something that is part of the ending. Now, when I read it, I didn’t give it much thought, because it wasn’t particularly intelligible, much like most of what you write. But about 30 minutes into TDKR, there’s a scene that made me think of your comment, and it made me realize what the ending would be. And it’s not some huge deal, because it’s possible that Nolan had telegraphed the ending anyway. Plus, I loved the film, even as I suspected what was coming. So whatever. But the fact that my viewing experience might have been spoiled by a pathetic troll on a movie blog is kind of a shame.

    I read this site sporadically, but rarely post. A big reason for that is you. You inhibit the conversation any time you get involved with it. I’ve seen others get into pointless arguments with you over a variety of topics, and honestly, it’s exhausting enough to read, let alone get involved in. A big problem on the Internet is people who believe their opinion is the only one that can be right. This problem is compounded when that person expresses their opinions as loudly and inarticulately as you do.

    I’m not interested in getting into a flame war with you, so this will be my last post on the subject. But I felt like I had to say something here. I like the idea of a blog that has a resident commenter who represents the “fanboy” perspective. But not when that person represents themselves as the authority on all things fanboy.

  67. David Poland says:

    The reason you always have to do Superman’s origin is that there is nowhere to go after he’s established. And with Zod in this one, I gather, they’ve undercut the next movie.

    Wanting to fit in is one thing. People on deep sea boats are not looking to connect with society. That’s why I find the idea a bit disingenuous.

    But maybe, as someone wrote, this is how a defeated Superman gets to The Fortress… or something.

    I am okay with the grass. I worry that Superman is heading to his Ra’s ah Ghul. I would like to know what the tone of the movie really is… and given Snyder’s history, the look.

    So I’m not out… I’m just not in based on this.

  68. David Poland says:

    As for the Michael H thing, IO/JSP, either don’t respond or respond calmly… or it’s getting pulled. I am not interested In a one-sided flame war because someone called you out without being obnoxious.

  69. Don R. Lewis says:

    Vicki Hobb stole my line! When I saw the trailer ahead of TDKR I thought “it looks like a Michael Bay movie.” It also looks crappy.

  70. BoulderKid says:

    Snyder like Bay is smart enough to know how to film a couple of scenes for a movie that is supposed to feel important that can be sold so as to make it appear to be some prestige picture. Those citing Pearl Harbor’s trailer made me remember the shots of timeless Americana such as the boy scouts or the little league game that made it seem like it was going to be some Spielberg-esque slam dunk along the lines of Saving Private Ryan. Is that what Snyder’s doing here? Not sure yet.

    I do think Snyder has a better head on his shoulders as far as delivering a “real movie” than someone like Bay. I’d like to see him do something more small scale or at least real world.

  71. JS Partisan says:

    David, his entire post is obnoxious. He blames me for his problems, that have nothing to do with me or his viewing enjoyment. The point that some of the most inarticulate and grammar starved people on the net, ever refer to me as inarticulate. Demonstrate how much of a troll this guy is, but thanks for getting my back as always. The support from you is always… lacking :D!

    Now, some people confuse veracity of opinion, with wanting to be right. Someone get Christian to do a search of anytime I have ever said that I am right, and someone is wrong. It’s all opinion but unlike other people, I don’t pussyfoot around. If this guy dislikes it, then that’s his problem. I don’t know him, don’t care about his opinion that is completely false and bares no truth to me as an individual, but that he calls me a troll is funny.

    I have the highest post count here. When you, someone who does not post here at all, calls me out, that makes you the troll. Hate to break that to you, but you are so astute with your reasoning and comprehension skills, that I am sure you missed this with your pointless diatribe about me believing I am an opinion on all things fanboy. Unlike Fanboy Armchair Posturing, I have never claimed to be an authority, or a fanboy. You folks put that on me, then give me crap when I have an opinion. Again, the ridiculousness of an adult posting what you did, is why this blog never ceases to feature some people with a lot of #firstworldproblems.

  72. Joe Leydon says:

    JSP: Everything you just wrote may indeed be true. But you still made a clown move with the spoiler.

  73. hcat says:

    Jesus, you are a Dick IO. Haven’t gotten out to see it yet, been avoiding all spoiler threads, and it may not effect my enjoyment of the movie, but the goddamn thing has been in release less than a hundred hours and you toss out a big endpoint because you are in one of your traditional hissy fits.

    Anyway, regarding Superman and the world this sort of sets up for the greater DC Universe….this has got to be the wrong tone to bring in all the amazons and aliens. Does anything in that trailer look like it can fit in a Gorilla Grod or a giant alien starfish? (while it may have changed amid the endless reboots I have always taken DC to be more goofy and comic booky than Marvel).

  74. JS Partisan says:

    HC, whose throwing a hissy fit? Seriously dude, what the fuck ever. Enough already with your ineptitude, and Joe it’s been out there for months. I figured it out last year. If you are that upset, then who really needs any of you? Really? Not me, so adios.

  75. hcat says:

    Good Fucking Riddance

    And it hasn’t been out there for months for those of us who don’t search this shit out.

  76. anghus says:

    I love that you cite having the highest post count. That sums you up well since you’re all about volume.

    Zing.

  77. Joe Leydon says:

    JSP: Lighten up, Francis. You’re just pissed because you done wrong, and you know it, and got called on it, and you’re re-directing your rage at the messengers. If you want to go away and sulk for a while, go ahead. But Rickie — don’t lose that number. Trust me: You’d be missed a lot more than I ever would be if you stopped posting.

  78. Paul D/Stella says:

    I hope he’s not bluffing. This place would instantly improve 1000%.

  79. joe says:

    SAs soon as I saw IO’s spoiler it irked me. I, too, am a loyal reader/infrequent poster- who unfortunately has wasted a few keystrokes on this moron (an opinion) and it’s good to see others speaking up.

    As for MoS, it’s a tough nut to crack what with Captain American working the patriot angle, Spidey’s responsibility vs self, and X-Men’s “we are outcasts” theme already established on screens and minds. I’d like to see Supes as a God among men defending against epic enemies of mankind, not bank robbers. Enemies of this nature tend to be difficult to punch, though.

  80. Steve Lamacq says:

    I like the teaser. But combine that with the bits you can make out here and i am most definitely SOLD. Looks great…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kf079i7Gq3E

  81. Pete B. says:

    Had I read JSP’s spoiler before seeing the TDKR, I’d have been pissed, but as a longtime reader of this blog, I know in advance to skip all IO/JSP posts as they have nothing of value. Thank goodness I did.

    As for the trailer – I’m sold, but then I’ve liked all Snyder’s stuff so far. Just wish I had caught the above link before it got pulled.

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon