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Weekend Estimates by The Mortal Instruments: Klady of Bones

Weekend Estimates 2013-08-25 at 9.30.45 AM

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34 Responses to “Weekend Estimates by The Mortal Instruments: Klady of Bones”

  1. Mary says:

    “The Grandmaster” is definitely a disappointment; under $20000 PTA is not a good sign, since Weinstein plans to expand the film to 500 theaters next weekend….

    Weinstein re-edited “The Grandmaster” and then promote the film a lot (with Martin Scorsese’s support). But now, it looks like “The Grandmaster” may not gross higher than another Tony Leung starrer “Lust, Caution” in US….

  2. Bulldog68 says:

    It still amazes me that the always critically well reviewed and popularly well received X-Men series always has such shitty legs.

  3. cadavra says:

    The problem with GRANDMASTER may be that we just had two swell IP MAN movies in the last couple of years and don’t need to see it rebooted so soon, especially by a pretentious art-house director whose understanding of the genre (based on the execrable ASHES OF TIME) is questionable.

  4. movieman says:

    Ouch, Cad! Your comments wounded me.
    I adore WKW–I think he’s possibly the greatest filmmaker working today; certainly the greatest non-English language filmmaker–and “The Grandmaster” is my most eagerly awaited 2013 release.
    But dissing “Ashes of Time” (or, sight unseen, “The Grandmaster”) for being strictly “genre films” is shortsighted. Like the best directors, WKW
    merely uses genre as a jumping-off point to explore his usual themes, obsessions, style-as-sensibility, etc. It’s like complaining that Scorsese didn’t understand the Golden Age of MGM musicals when he made “New York, New York” because the film he made was less about Arthur Freed (or Vincente Minnelli) than it was about the dude who made “Taxi Driver” and “Mean Streets.”

  5. Bulldog68 says:

    You gotta love Simon Pegg.

    “That was one of the things that blew me away about ‘Man of Steel,’ that at the end, they’re all at the Daily Planet office just going, “Hey! Let’s go see the Dodgers!” Isn’t everyone dead? Isn’t New York flat? What do you mean, go see the Dodgers?!”

  6. anghus says:

    Bulldog, the first Wolverine film was savaged by critics and fans and still made a lot of money. X-men First Class was well reviewed and still didnt make a lot of money. Not as much as they were hoping. The truth is, two X-men films were well reviewed. The third took a whipping from fans, and the first Wolverine was laughed at by just about everyone, and STILL the goodwill from earlier films earned that one a pretty decent haul. First Class and Wolverine have been showing the apathy setting in for these characters which is why they needed an Avengers-esque mash up of past and future for the next one in the hopes that it revitalizes the franchise.

    Oh, and as i was over at Box Office Mojo, i saw their weekend box office preview and laughed when i read this:

    “Among new entries this weekend, horror movie You’re Next seems like the strongest contender, and could claim first place ahead of Lee Daniels’ The Butler”

    It sure did seem like ‘the strongest contender’ seeing as it finished in sixth place. Nice job B.O.M.! You certainly once again prove yourselves as the definitive expert on all things box office related!

  7. Etguild2 says:

    “certainly the greatest non-English language filmmaker”

    Putting aside Miyazaki, I think this was a fair argument 10 years ago, but Haneke’s recent output has moved him higher (Funny Games remake aside) no?…Though I haven’t seen “Grandmaster” yet, if anything it’s a real debate by now. Kiarostami is moving steadily into the conversation as well, for me at least.

  8. movieman says:

    Et- I appreciate the directors you cited, Et.
    But WKW does “it” for me in a way no foreign language filmmaker has since…Fassbinder? Rohmer?

  9. Etguild2 says:

    Universal is the last major studio to have a $1 billion worldwide hit. JURASSIC PARK got there this weekend thanks to a big opening in China. Better late than never I guess.

    Uni also had a movie hit $800 million for the 2nd time without re-releases with DESPICABLE ME 2, which has an outside shot at $900 million (Monsters U has made 80 million+ and counting in Japan, where DM2 has yet to open among other countries). I think we have the #1 and #2 most profitable movies of the year locked in, no?

    Re: THE WOVLVERINE, it’ll probably end up as the #2 film in the series worldwide, up 50 million+ on First Class, so I wouldn’t be too upset.

    PERCY 2’s chances of catching PERCY 1 in overseas numbers look bleak. Oopsie. Between Percy, RED, Smurfs, and Grown Ups, all being way down, can box office writers please stop with the “sequels always make more than the originals overseas” line?

  10. berg says:

    didn’t Yimou’s Hero open over the labor day weekend …. Grandmaster is definitely an art film but I thought it was great and there’s enough attention to the different styles of fighting that it will attract non-art fans too

  11. movieman says:

    It was definitely late August 2004, Berg. Maybe the weekend before Labor Day weekend?
    Miramax gave “Hero” a much larger break (1,000+ screens) than Weinstein is giving “Grandmaster.”
    In 2004 everyone was still chasing SPC’s “Crouching Tiger” money.

  12. Ray Pride says:

    Nine years ago this weekend, movieman, berg. $18 million opening weekend despite having been on video elsewhere in the world since 2002. 2,031 screens.

  13. movieman says:

    I had the right date, but I lowballed the screen count.
    Hadn’t realized it was quite that large a break.
    I guess they really were chasing “Crouching Tiger” bucks.
    If I remember correctly, “Hero” did about half ($50-million?) the domestic cume of Ang Lee’s film. More than respectable for a subtitled movie.

  14. Chucky says:

    Miramax timed the US release of “Hero” to coincide with the Republican National Convention where George W. Bush was nominated for a second term. Chopsocky money has nothing to do with it.

  15. movieman says:

    Let me get this straight, Chucky.

    Democratic fundraiser Harvey Weinstein deliberately timed the opening of “Hero” the week of the 2004 Republication Convention because he thought W. was a heroic figure, and that auds would naturally conflate the title of his movie with an illegitimate sitting president; then, in the spirit of patriotism, buy a ticket to a martial arts epic directed by arthouse auteur Zhang Yimou?
    Sorry, you lost me.

  16. cadavra says:

    I concede that I haven’t seen GRANDMASTER yet, though I do intend to and would be happy to be proven wrong. But WKW just does not do it for me. That doesn’t mean you all are wrong; it’s just my opinion.

    And I do suggest renting the two IP MAN films, if for no other reason than comparisons.

  17. movieman says:

    No slight intended, Cad. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion.
    I just get defensive whenever WKW gets maligned, lol.

    Speaking of contrary opinions: I read the EW interview w/ Joss Whedon, and he came across as such a nice guy I felt a tad guilty for not liking his TV shows and movies more.

  18. Chucky says:

    Looks like @movieman put words in my mouth. Miramax timed the US release of “Hero” for political purposes. This was when Miramax was (1) owned by Disney and (2) employed a right-wing gatekeeper with veto power over releases.

  19. MarkVH says:

    Not that I advocate talking about the Oscars before Fall (or, hell, January if I can help it), but after that trailer for Dallas Buyers Club, can anyone envision a universe where Matthew McConaughey doesn’t win Best Actor? Even if the movie ends up being “meh,” stars look lined up pretty much perfectly for him.

  20. palmtree says:

    Chucky, oddly enough I read the actual movie HERO to be an apology for Chinese Communism. And SPOILER-ish alert,

    the twist is that the guy is a hero, because he doesn’t assassinate the corrupt Emperor, because a corrupted totalitarian ruler is still better than chaos.

    Not saying your theory is crazy (even though…come on), but that would make it really interesting political bedfellows there.

  21. anghus says:

    palm, that pretty much describes what i walked away with after Hero.

    Choosing order instead of chaos. That Jet Li wasn’t the hero China needed, but was the one they deserved.

  22. cadavra says:

    But people have also been talking up McConaughey for MUD. Isn’t there a risk of a vote-split?

  23. christian says:

    I thought the vote-split myth was debunked with Soderbergh winning for TRAFFIC over ERIN BROCKOVICH…

  24. LexG says:

    Hot week in the old town tonight!

  25. Chris says:

    Even if there is vote-split worry (which I think cost him a nomination last year), I’m not sure it matters this year. Wouldn’t “Mud” be a supporting performance and “Dallas” a lead?

  26. YancySkancy says:

    DALLAS has the weight-loss hook and a later release date, so MUD will fall to the side. Or maybe Chris is right; I haven’t seen MUD, so I don’t know if MM is lead or supporting in that.

  27. Etguild2 says:

    What about McConaughey as supporting in “Wolf of Wall Street?”

    Also, can we get a Telluride/Venice BYOB up in here? Raves abound for “Gravity.”

  28. MarkVH says:

    Agreed on Mud as too early in the year, and also possibly supporting. But if McConaughey kills it in WoWS, we could be looking at noms in both categories.

    And Hero’s politics were deplorable, really hurt the film as far as I’m concerned. Of the two Yimou releases that year, for me, that’s what cemented it as the lesser of the two.

  29. Hcat says:

    Haven’t seen Mud yet, but I do not get the Mc love from last year. I didn’t see him grow as a performer but just think people found how to put his skills portraying preening narcissists to better use.

  30. Etguild2 says:

    I thought his performance in “Killer Joe” was unlike anything else he’d done to that point. There was just a sense of menace he’d never approached in the past.

  31. Chris says:

    Agreed, Etguild2, and “Paperboy” was another new dimension to him. As was “Bernie.” I, frankly, couldn’t stand the vast majority of his choices up until last year but those two performances convinced me he’s got something (“Magic Mike” was, admittedly, more in his usually smarmy wheelhouse, but he was put to good use).

  32. cadavra says:

    Christian: Academy rules prevent actors from being nominated twice in the same category. I was thinking more along the lines of 1967, when Poitier had three major hits that triple-split votes and he ended up with no nomination.

  33. Hcat says:

    Mc wasn’t preening in Bernie? The charecter was constantly posing for the cameras and the jury. As for killer joe he’s played handsome confident menace before in frailty and lone star. It’s just the movies are better darker etc. ironically once he stopped being any sort of box offi e draw the good pictures started coming his way.

  34. storymark says:

    “You gotta love Simon Pegg.

    “That was one of the things that blew me away about ‘Man of Steel,’ that at the end, they’re all at the Daily Planet office just going, “Hey! Let’s go see the Dodgers!” Isn’t everyone dead? Isn’t New York flat? What do you mean, go see the Dodgers?!””

    That’d be funnier if that wasn’t pretty much how Into Darkness ended, just destroying San Francisco instead.

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