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Weekend Estimates by Deadshot Klady

Weekend Estimates 2016-08-07 at 10.02.19 AM

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  1. Sideshow Bill says:

    So I’ve been asking around about whether I should drop $$ on Suicide Squad. Mostly fellow comic book/genre fans. I’ve gotten mixed responses. Some said wait until video. Others found it worthwhile. Nobody raved though.

    I imagine if you’re predisposed to the genre,as I am, you will find something to like in it. A friend asked me to think back to the last superhero movie I genuinely disliked. I couldn’t think of one I outright hated. The closest I could come was Affleck’s Daredevil, Superman Returns and Amazing Spider-Man 2. I liked both Hulk films to some extent, and I even enjoy some of Spider-Man 3. Maybe I’m just an easy mark. But perhaps it’s similar to, say, a fan of Westerns who finds something to like in each western they see.

    Then again horror is my favorite genre, and there are horror movies I outright hate.

  2. EtGuild2 says:

    Stunned, in a good way, that HUNT FOR THE WILDERPEOPLE outgrossed WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS.

    How can u put Superman Returns that low?! It’s like the adorable puppy you cloned from your original adorable puppy! :p

  3. Sideshow Bill says:

    I am dying to see WILDERPEOPLE. I seems so wonderful.

    I don’t hate Superman Returns. I liked Routh. I liked things and scenes in it but as a whole it was dull. I’m tired of Lex Luthor in Superman movies. I admire the effort though.

  4. Bulldog68 says:

    IMO Lex Luthor in the movies has been kind of boring. Didn’t really warm to the latest incarnation either. Hackman was entertaining though. I wish DC would have gone with Brainiac. He’s much more fun. There is a story line where he tries to kill Lois Lane and Lana Lang so Supes gives them superpowers. I’d love to see that.

    As four comic book movies I hate. The last Fantastic Four, Superman IV. Superman Returns, Spider-Man 3. Elektra. Both Ghost Riders.

    Seems like such a long time ago when Superman IV outright bombed with a $15m domestic gross.

  5. Sideshow Bill says:

    Ugh, I forgot about the Ghost Riders. They were awful. And Elektra was incomprehensible.

    Shameful admission: I saw Superman 4 in the theater….twice. I was 16. I didn’t know any better.

  6. Bulldog68 says:

    Superman 4 twice. How much did your therapy cost? Lol.

  7. Pete B. says:

    Really had high hopes for the 2nd Ghost Rider with the guys from Crank at the helm.
    So disappointing that it was worse than the 1st.

  8. EtGuild2 says:

    The fourquel superhero curse looms large–Supes, BATMAN & ROBIN (same universe as the Burton films, right?), the cancelled Spider-Man 4…UNTITLED AVENGERS (2019) has some rough tides to navigate lol.

    Hatred is a strong word but X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE gets me there given my love for the Singer films. Also, the scene of emo Tobey Maguire scatting his way through NYC fills me with irrational rage for some reason.

    Also, not really superhero, but :THE SPIRIT.

  9. Bitplaya says:

    X Men Orgins was horrible. Green Lantern was horrible. Punisher Warzone was pretty fucking bad.

    There have been lots of misses. DC might sell more costumes for Halloween but to make this a real franchise it needed to be good and needed real boosters. Suicide Squad has none of that.
    There are so many of these movies I’m not going to bother with these movies unless I sense there is come care being taken.

  10. Sideshow Bill says:

    Never bothered with The Spirit. It’s rep waaaaay precedes it.

    Woverine: Origins was pretty bad. At least it had Liev Schreiber and Danny Huston. Sabretooth splashing the bottle of fake blood on Wolverines fake dead wife was sub-moronic. SPOILER, I guess.

  11. Sideshow Bill says:

    Well I’m not seeing Suicide Squad this upcoming week. I just spent my side money on Teenage Fanclub tickets, which were way more important.

    Maybe next week. Maybe when it hits VOD in December.

    I should watch The Lobster again.

  12. Bulldog68 says:

    Didn’t like Wolverine: Origin. But it missed my hated list. I know I saw Punisher, but for the life of me I don’t remember shit about it. Like someone erased that file from my brain.

  13. CG says:

    $134.7 is a lot less than some of the projections made at the start of the weekend. And the 40% Friday-to-Saturday drop makes this look a lot like the BS box office pattern, which supports what DP said of that movie – WB has turned DC into a Divergent-level franchise that’s not bleeding money but that nobody really cares about, either.

  14. EtGuild2 says:

    It’s not DIVERGENT-level bad. More like a bigger-scale STAR TREK. One big problem SUICIDE SQUAD faces is the probable lack of a China-release. That alone may keep it in the $600-$700 million range.

  15. Bulldog68 says:

    “$134.7 is a lot less than some of the projections made at the start of the weekend.”
    Means nothing though. DC just out opened the more successful Marvel’s GotG by more than 40%. This projection and expectation game has gone past the point of absurd when you put up this number in August, with characters not known by the mainstream, and somehow the spin is still a disappointment. Oy.
    Opening Weekend is all about the marketing and this was spot on. Had nothing to do with quality. It’s called Show Business for a reason.
    Many have already forgotten the early press when this was announced and it was viewed as a risky project for DC.
    Yes all indicators are pointing to a quick burn. I’d equate it more to Twilight than Divergent. But even if it gets to “only” $270m, for such an unknown property, that’s a win. Thor, Captain America, Ant-Man, all opened to much less and they are better known characters. Heck, X-Men Apocalypse topped out at $155m.

  16. EtGuild2 says:

    That’s a good point Bulldog. On the other hand, will it end up being as profitable for Warner Bros as their horror sequel (probably not), Emilia Clarke-led weepie or Kevin Hart comedy (probably) this summer? Only time will tell, but if it falls into that range, they’ve got to decide what’s worth what based on toys.

  17. CG says:

    I don’t mean to say that it’s a disaster, but I doubt WB wants DC to turn into a mildly profitable, instantly forgettable franchise.

  18. Geoff says:

    Worst Case Scenario is that this plays out a like Twilight sequel which is more than mildly profitable on its budget.

  19. jspartisan says:

    If Justice League stalls, then it’s time to freak the hell out. Until that point, it is what it fucking is. Geoff has some talent in him, so he has the ability to turn this around.

  20. EtGuild2 says:

    lol JS…

    It’ll probably fall $100 million short of the TWILIGHT finale, while also costing $100 million more in combined budgeting most likely. Kind of a difference there.

  21. Sideshow Bill says:

    I can’t believe The Nice Guys is already on VOD. Incredible.

  22. palmtree says:

    BvS had the lowest multiple for a movie that opened over $100 million. I feel like SS could do that same multiple or worse. No matter how positively you spin it, WB cannot be very happy about this.

  23. CG says:

    For fun (Yes, this is how I have fun), I created a spreadsheet to project SS’s BO if it follows the same day-to-day dropoffs as BS. If it does so, it will take 67 days in release before it hits $300 million. Having said that, right now SS has grossed about $2 million more through Monday than it would under that projection.

  24. amblinman says:

    So is it now fair to say Ghostbusters tanked with talk the sequel is being killed?

  25. amblinman says:

    On the GB note, they’re rebooting Ocean’s 11 with an all female cast. I don’t think Holllywood gets this shit. Simply flipping genders on movies doesn’t make things better. Want to make things better? Next time you have a big caper movie, how about casting a woman instead of Clooney to lead whatever team is assembled? Providing all female versions of movies is another form of a ghetto.

  26. PcChongor says:

    Speak for yourself cause I can’t wait to see the all-male version of “The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants.”

  27. Stella's Boy says:

    I love the cast they are assembling for the Ocean’s 11 reboot and look forward to the movie. How exactly is casting a woman in one role better?

  28. Bulldog68 says:

    Some encouraging news on the legs of Suicide Squad. After having the worst first Monday gross and 2nd largest Sunday to Monday percentage drop when compared with BvS, Deadpool and Captain America 3, it had the biggest first Tuesday gross and largest day to day percentage increase of the four films. Still way too early to tell where it will end up and surely this weekend will tell the tale, but so far, not free falling.

  29. EtGuild2 says:

    By all means, you can say scrapping a sequel means a movie “tanked.” You’d then just have to apply more outlandish terminology to movies that performed really poorly in relation to budget this summer. For instance, you could say The Big Friendly Giant was bludgeoned to death, Alice was gang-raped, and Star Trek was vaporized.

    In other news, FINDING DORY has now put Disney at #1-4 in worldwide grosses this year while reaching #7 all-time domestically, while it looks like TJB will get a final push to topple DEADPOOL and claim the #1-3 spots for the year domestically.

  30. Hallick says:

    “Providing all female versions of movies is another form of a ghetto.”

    I get your point, but it’s still a far, far, far better “ghetto” than the one film actresses inhabit right now.

    An all-female Ocean’s 11 is a cool idea until I remember how much talent and effort went into creating those three outstandingly bland and forgettable movies with the male cast.

  31. EtGuild2 says:

    To be fair, OCEANS TWELVE was more head-slappingly bad than bland…I will never forget “fake Julia Roberts.”

  32. Bulldog68 says:

    While I’m still undecided about my feelings toward the all female movie versions, as always it will depend on the final product. I do like the fact that it does open up opportunities for women to play with bigger budget films where they aren’t just “the girl”. Interesting though that the Director of Ghostbusters was still a male, and another male is slated to direct the female Oceans. Why not go all the way?

    Also, I’m still interested in seeing a female Bond. Possibly introduced as a fellow Spy along with Bond, and then given her own movie. Hopefully she would not be one of Bond’s conquest, but an equal. And also hopefully directed by a woman. Any thoughts on who could play a great female Bond?

  33. YancySkancy says:

    The female Ocean’s film will be a spin-off, not a remake or sequel. Different characters (of course) and a different plot. I imagine for all practical purposes it IS an original story, only given some tangential relation to Danny Ocean so they can brand it with known I.P. Because God forbid Hollywood take a flyer on a true original.

  34. leahnz says:

    rebecca ferguson already did the female bond damn well in that latest mission impossible thing, ilsa faust. she was the shit, its like there’s all these been-there-done-that dudes flailing around and then ILSA is there, shiny!

  35. amblinman says:

    “I get your point, but it’s still a far, far, far better “ghetto” than the one film actresses inhabit right now.”

    Sure. Didn’t mean to suggest that in lieu of a perfect system, they shouldn’t bother with something like this. Just that Hollywood still doesn’t quite seem to understand what real diversity looks like. Then again, why should they be any different than America as a whole.

  36. Eric says:

    The Halle Berry character in Die Another Day was meant to be a female Bond, with a spinoff and so on. But Die Another Day was lousy and Berry was wooden in the role so that idea died quick.

  37. Mike says:

    If casting for Bond were gender blind, wouldn’t Emily Blunt be the obvious choice for Bond? She’s got the action chops and is enough of a star that Bond would send her into the stratosphere. I’d rather her than Hiddleston, and I like him.

    When she turned it down, I would think Rebecca Hall could be an interesting name thrown into the mix.

  38. Bulldog68 says:

    I thought of Emily Blunt myself. I think also Charlize Theron could fill the role.

  39. palmtree says:

    Naomie Harris already portrayed Moneypenny as an MI6 agent. Why not her?

  40. Bulldog68 says:

    The name is Penny. Money Penny.

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