Rian Johnson Gets His Own Trilogy
Takin me back, Clips. Takin me back. pic.twitter.com/8d5NcQ1bgd
— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) November 9, 2017
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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
Intriguing. A “new” galaxy. And as I thought, it is with all new characters. Makes sense as why would Johnson want to be stuck with characters he didn’t create for three movies. Hopefully he has a plan they actually let him execute. Although I assume that Rey and the rest could pop up in a stand alone or another trilogy in 10-20 years. Gutsier than I thought Lucasfilm.
Still not clear on the standalones? That Kenobi movie seems barely at the development stage, and who knows if Daldry sticks it out. Maybe they’re waiting to see if Solo was a misstep? Rogue One set the box office bar pretty high for standalones. We will see.
So good.
This is garbage. It’s absolute fucking garbage, and I am just finished with Star Wars after 2019. Why? What’s the point of the last films? They literally, are going to spend three films building up these new and interesting characters, then throw them away for OLD REPUBLIC GARBAGE! That’s what it’s going to be, and fuck that noise.
Now, the person who replaces Kennedy at LFL, may have plans for 10-12, but LFL have shown zero fucking ability outside of the main films, Rebels, and Doctor fucking Alphra. It’s just… Star Wars is a struggle, and they seemingly did not make the sequels most people wanted, and have decided, “FUCK IT! Let’s piss off most Star Wars fans, who hate the Old Republic, and MAKE THREE FILMS ABOUT IT! WOOO!”
It’s just garbage, and I hope it blows up in their faces. Star Wars is Rey, Finn, and Poe now. I don’t need to spend three movies, with pointless fucking Old Republic characters, because guess what? I ALREADY HAVE A NEW BUNCH OF CHARACTERS, THAT ACTUALLY SHOOK SKYWALKER’S HAND!
C’mon Disney knows what it’s doing, theyre the behometh!!! No other studio can manage these franchises as masterfully. I am sure there are Millions of people anxiously awaiting new chapters even if YOU do not care about it.
meeting new characters that are well written is always a joy in a movie. can’t wait for this.
JS, I love ya buddy but get a grip. Rey, et al will thrive in the EU. New characters, worlds, drama, storylines are what will keep things fresh. Relax and let it play out.
JS,
How do you know it’s going to be based on Old Republic? Got a link to the source?
Spassky, I JUST DID THAT… TWO YEARS AGO! More on this in a second.
Hcat, that’s Marvel Studios not LFL. They are owned by Disney, but guess what? They are different entities, but Bob Iger loves fucking up Star Wars, and this lets him do more different and strange Star Wars… that so many people were clamoring for… sure they weren’t. HERE’S WHY!
What really chafes my ass about all of this, is that Arndt crafted, from George’s notes, a film about the OT characters and their kids, dealing with shit. This draft/finished script was thrown away, so JJ and Kasdan could go around, and create the NEXT GENERATION OF STAR WARS CHARACTERS. Characters, that have become fucking beloved in a very short period of time. Today, basically, LFL announced they were bored of these characters, and decided to move on. THAT’S SO FUCKING DUMB! Why is it dumb?
JJ and Kasdan, went out of their way to create a new generation, focus VII on them, and do it without letting all the OT heroes be together on screen again. This cathartic moment, never happens, because Maz Kanata.
We never got old Luke, old Han, and old Leia on screen together. We never got old Luke and Leia together on screen. All of this was done, in service of getting Rey, Finn, Poe, Phasma, Rose, DJ, Snoke, and Kylo over. Which leaves me wondering, if this is where the fuck they were going, then WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST STICK WITH FUCKING GEORGE’S TREATMENT? I know the answer is ego, but all of this is just so short sighted. It’s all desperation.
They are giving three films, to one guy, because they trust him over hiring “risky” directors. They are also, basically, starting Star Wars over, and guess what? That never goes the way that people want it to go. Also, Rey is Star Wars now, and it’s fucking insulting that they want to take that away from girls all over the world. It shouldn’t be that much of a struggle, but it is. Star Wars, for fans like my brother, are a fucking struggle, and they don’t want to endure it. It just feels off, but that’s what happens when the Chairman of Disney wants to show the world, “IM MORE STAR WARS THAN LUCAS!”
Love this news. Ever since Disney got a hold of Star Wars I’ve been waiting for them to start telling new stories instead of rehashing the same old Skywalker drama. Exciting that it seems to be finally happening. Honestly more excited for this than for the 7-9 trilogy, since we know that’ll likely end in mediocrity (with Abrams writing/directing). Bring on new worlds, I say.
Gotta have somewhere to go after the Mary Sue trilogy is finished. $4billion was quite an initial investment on this longterm corporate project.
The Mary Sue trilogy? CUE ENZO! “We got a coupla haters? Coupla haters?” Yeah, 7-9 are Star Wars. This other shit, is going to lead to all sorts of weird shit, because it’s being sold as Star Wars.
Oh yeah… if you use Mary Sue, you are a sexist pig. Do you know what world you livin’ in? It’s not the world, where Mary Sue is acceptable but please, continue to hate on the one character that continues to make Star Wars special… how white male of you.
I’ve thought of Rian Johnson as a risky director, kinda like a younger Chris Nolan. I’m already imagining his trilogy being akin to the Dark Knight trilogy. The fact that Kennedy likes him is proof enough for me.
There’s only five years difference in age between Johnson and Nolan actually.
JS, I’ve seen focus group data that indicates the talking rabbit-penguin replacing Harrison Ford will end up being the breakout character from the current trilogy, not Rey. I wish the news were better for Ridley and her team. Alas.
Actually it’s more like 3 years. Just looked it up. Younger in the sense of his career span, not necessarily in terms of years, I suppose.
Fluffer… yeah… no.
While, honestly, I’m not really that interested in this shit this time of year (where the fuck were you in Summer, Star Wars?), I’ll give Last Jedi a go and see how I feel about this. There’s a lot of assumptions made here — how do we know they won’t continue the individual characters of the latest trilogy or that they won’t be an integral part of the new one?
Either way, in the end, the team knows what’s up in terms of their own expectations and others’. Toss the last bit of meat on the bone to Abrams and let Rian have at it. I do not understand how someone couldn’t at least be a little excited by the prospect of a filmmaker who actually deserve this to do it.
More characters. More stories. What’s not to love?
Spassky, you are not a Star Wars fan, because if you were… this would be irksome. They announced, that this trilogy has nothing to do with the Skywalker Saga, and it’s all new shit taking place… in the Old Republic. Sure, Rian Johnson will probably make something interesting, but it’s something getting in the way of the story that needs to be told. The story, that the old EU told, and that’s the building of the re-building of the republic, and the new jedi order. Instead, you know, six years of dicking around in the Old Republic… whoopidy doo.
Also, again, if this were the plan all along; to have a whole new trilogy, after episode IX. They could have, I don’t know, given people what they wanted, and that’s having Luke, Leia, and Han on screen again. This will always be something, that annoys a lot of fans, because we were denied it for new characters, and those new characters are going to be backburned for the stupid Old Republic. All the way around, it’s LFL not living up to their fucking name.
JS,
Again, please show me where it’s been established that he’s doing the Old Republic. I haven’t seen any source to this. Do you have a link that establishes this? Or is this conjecture on your part?
Jar Jar Abrams couldn’t direct his way out of a wet paper bag. Don’t know what Disney is doing here, recycling story beats when they could be going in different directions. Then again, Lucas was reworking old storylines himself.
Ugh, okay. Well, I’m gonna continue to watch important films that aren’t “Star Wars”… in addition to SW films. Because that’s what FILM lovers do, you bloviating sarlacc pit. (I’m kind of joking–i like this banter, and your opinion’s kinda fun).
i would like a KOTOR movie, whatever. I would like “Solo” to be Rio Bravo. But in the end, this is just a way to tell more stories. Look at them like movies. Not merely nostalgic masturbation fantasies.