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BYOB Weekend: #apeswinning

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22 Responses to “BYOB Weekend: #apeswinning”

  1. sanj says:

    hey movie critics – do you find it annoying when you go to a movie theatre and see all those movie posters – you’ve seen most of the movies and are just looking for the new movies only ?

    also if a movie gets some real bad reviews like Cowboys and Aliens – do you go to the theatre manager and just tell them to stop running it ? why don’t you have that type of power .. if another better reviewed movie will make the theatre more money…

  2. Hallick says:

    Quick question for people here in their late 30’s/40’s: has anybody else been noticing how old a certain generation of actors are looking nowadays? It took me three episodes of “Necessary Roughness” to realize that Callie Thorne’s skeezy ex-husband-to-be was being played by Craig Bierko, who didn’t exactly have an ordinary face in his heyday. Then I was watching “I Love You Phillip Morris” today and I couldn’t get over how haggard the lines in Jim Carrey’s face are becoming (same thing with Brad Pitt in that “Moneyball” trailer too).

    I know this has been happening to actors and actresses since forever, but for some reason (probably my own advancing age) I’m really starting to notice it everywhere. Am I the only one fixating on this?

  3. sanj says:

    Necessary Roughness – Callie Thorne – the way the character is written – she can’t do comedy and the drama isn’t great either like when she yells at her kids – not beilevable.

    over on the imdb message boards – Cameron Diaz and Sarah Jessica Parker get lots of comments about their face..more than their acting ablities ..

    a lot of actress know they look good and take advantage and appear in makeup ads – Drew Barrymore hasn’t had s hit movie in years and does lots of tv commercials for
    covergirl ..

    some companies do deals but they just don’t seem right ..
    Eva Mendes still has a nice face but is doing hair ads for
    pantene … Amber Heard also has a nice face but is doing
    bad black and white ads for Guess .. Nicole Kidman is doing ads for watches …

    one company seems to have a monopoly on actresses ..which is L’Oréal Paris …. they even got the biggest music stars too …

    i’m sure there a lot of actresses that want to cash in and do these easy ads but nobody seems to be calling Greta Gerwig – Brit Marling – Emma Roberts – Jennifer Lawerence – i’m sure L’Oreal could get 4 of these for the price of 1 Beyonce…

    lots of actresses do ads outside the USA – Natalie Portman has done several and so has George Clooney…
    and yet nobody in the US asks them about them ..

    but does an oscar nomination do ? actually make money
    of ads like Hailee Steinfeld for Miu Miu …she’s 14 years old

    http://fashion.elle.com/fashion/2011/06/24/hailee-steinfeld-for-miu-miu/

    the fashion ads will double this month because of back to school. somehow 35 year old actresses will convince 19 year old girls reading vogue magazine to buy their products …

    i’m waiting for DP to be the face of Netflix …with giant billboards around LA …

  4. Hallick says:

    I’m not trying to say anything about somebody’s looks in a negative put-down kind of way, I’m just saying that all of the sudden I’m noticing a lot performers, usually character actors, seem to be hitting that phase when they start turning old for real. They’re thicker, they’ve gone gray or they’ve gone from balding to literally bald, and they look so tired. My thought is that I’m entering that patch of my life too and that’s why I’m noticing this everywhere I look.

  5. Hallick says:

    Maybe I need to start watching “Men of a Certain Age” now.

  6. Hallick says:

    In light of the clamor for Andy Serkis to get an Oscar nomination for his performance in ROTPOTA and the depressing idea that the Academy won’t go for it because of the CGI involvement in his work on the film, didn’t Brad Pitt and his nomination for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button at least put a crack in this particular glass ceiling and lay the groundwork for a successful campaign to get Serkis a nod?

  7. sanj says:

    a lot of actors take advantage of looking older / balder / grey whatever …Mellisa Leo didn’t she have like 8 kids in the fighter ..Ashley Tisdale who is 26 is doing tv teen drama called hellcats .. where they are supposed to be under 18 – this age thing works both ways ..

    there is a small group of actors that look better when
    they age – Mila Kunis – Anna Faris …

    Andy Serkis – is it worth the extra money for the nomination ? lots and lots of ads everywhere.
    “they monkey in the apes movie is played by Andy Serkis – give him an oscar ” … it’s good for dvd sales
    plus if he gets nominated than DP will finally interview him for a dp/30 ..otherwise he’ll be locked in a cage until the next time Peter Jackson needs him .

  8. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    Put a fork in this Serkis praise please! Any half decent mime in the world could probably have stepped up and replaced him. Suddenly Serkis is Buster Keaton and Lon Chaney all rolled into one? And talk of Oscar nomination? Laughable. His work is fine an all but lets please take it down a notch or two okay?

    Pitt in Button = a real performance. Serkis in ROTPOTA = just another guy with dots on him.

  9. Joe Leydon says:

    By sheer coincidence: Today I bought a DVD of The Three Stooges in Orbit (1962) partly because I enjoyed it when I was 10, and partly because it has, as I recall, a subplot involving Moe, Larry and Curly Joe using something like motion capture for a proposed TV cartoon show. Seriously.

  10. Joe says:

    Has anyone read or heard (or even seen) anything of Kenneth Lonergan’s Margaret? I saw the post here on MCN about it finally being released on September 30th of this year but nothing more. In particular I’m interested in the final cut’s running time and awards eligibility.

  11. yancyskancy says:

    Hallick: I guess it’s hard not to notice actors aging, especially with HD now. I think generally they take better care of themselves these days, though it’s sometimes hard to tell where healthy living ends and Botox begins. But guys like Bogart, Flynn, William Holden, etc. — you know, the heavy smokers and drinkers — often looked 60 by the time they were 50.

    But surely some of it is, as you say, your own advancing age that makes you more aware of the issue. I mean, if you remember C. Thomas Howell from E.T. or THE OUTSIDERS, and then you catch a glimpse of him on TORCHWOOD: MIRACLE DAY looking every bit of his 45 years, it can throw you for a loop.

  12. Pete B. says:

    I hadn’t seen C. Thomas Howell in ages and then he’s on Torchwood last Friday, and then on The Glades that Sunday. And yep, the years have not been kind.

  13. anghus says:

    “Maybe I need to start watching “Men of a Certain Age” now.”

    It wasn’t renewed, so it might be a bad time to start.

  14. chris says:

    Joe, if you do some Googling, “Margaret” has been written about A LOT over the last several years. It should be awards-eligible but, in your Googling, you’ll find that running time is the principle reason it hasn’t been released. (Damon has been quoted as saying it’s a masterpiece at its original length.)

  15. Joe says:

    Thanks Chris. I have done some due diligence but was hoping for some new info. I read Scorsese also called it a masterpiece some years back. In fact, I haven’t read a negative view of the film, only it’s troubled editing. With a release this close you’d think there’d be some promotion. Surely I can’t be the only one excited for a film with this pedigree.

    Edit: Some interesting info in the comments here: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/08/04/margaret-release-date/

  16. Hallick says:

    “It wasn’t renewed, so it might be a bad time to start.”

    Well, there’s one thing that won’t be getting old on me…

  17. sanj says:

    i want free tickets to this TIFF movie thing..

    the downside is i have to wait in huge lineups…

    the average price for a movie is 18 bucks ..

    maybe i’ll go one day if i win the lottery .

    you movie critics enjoy the free movies .

    DP – your the money movie guy – interview people
    who buy these expensive tickets and those who
    can’t afford those movie tickets ….

    if they kept every ticket at 10 bucks – then everything
    would be sold out and it would be affordable …
    hollywood just doesn’t like anything reasonable .

  18. David Poland says:

    The interesting thing about TIFF is that it’s driven by local ticket buyers who buy over 350,000 tickets a year.

  19. sanj says:

    hey DP – DP/30: Chasing Madoff, subject Harry Markopolos
    this should be a big hit with business schools …
    you should post something about not stealing your content..
    you gotta put up prices for this … 50 bucks for unlimited use or something … this is the stuff cnbc should be doing but isn’t . you beat them but nobody really knows about it …

    also DP .. you have competition

    actress Riki Lindhome is doing interviews with actors
    in podcasts ..they are 1 hour long

    here is Martin Gero talking about his tv directing and his movie .. some fun stories

    http://www.nerdist.com/2011/08/making-it-3-martin-gero/

  20. Don R. Lewis says:

    I think we’re noticing the haggard, aged look in actors/actresses more these days due to hi-def. You can’t cake makeup on in hi-def so it’s tough to cover up age and imperfection.

    And…
    If INCEPTION can win an Oscar for best cinematography why much of it (well, the cool shit) was CGI, I think Serkis can at least be nominated for the same reason.

  21. SamLowry says:

    http://www.cracked.com/article_19350_6-famously-terrible-movies-that-were-almost-awesome.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module

    X-Men 3 was the biggest disappointment on the list for me–I was anticipating the Dark Phoenix Saga that was clearly set up in X2 and instead we got a dippy mutant war.

    But “Nottingham” is probably the textbook example of how terrified Hollywood is of creativity. Robin Hood, however, is still shown in that discarded draft as innocent after all–I thought the original, exciting concept was “Sheriff = good guy, Hood = bad guy”.

  22. cadavra says:

    NOTTINGHAM is the example I always use when explaining why we won’t go to studios to finance our pictures; if it can happen to them, what chance have we got? And of course, the worst of this is that we’ll never get to see a film based on the original script.

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