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More From AICN on Phantom

Thanks to Drew/Moriarty for putting up a more complete look at MCN’s Phantom screening and other Phantom screenings.  One writer does an excellent job reporting on the Schumacher Q&A. 

The newest AICN report is here.

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9 Responses to “More From AICN on Phantom”

  1. Drew says:

    I just went back to read the comments under “Getting AICNed.” Gee, I wonder how this second article will play into the worldviews of those who seem to think I was trying to “get” you, David. As I told you in e-mail, I was hoping to draw even more reactions from readers, and I did. And, as I expected, the reactions were more varied. I never look to just publish one side of the reaction to a film, no matter what the haters want to believe.

  2. David Poland says:

    Good question… as I wrote before, I never thought you were out to get me or the movie. But still, there is a lot of web impact when you run one bad review like that, no matter your intentions, whether it was real or not. And there, we do have different philosophies.
    Again, I appreciate your new piece and am perfectly comfortable, given that you are going to run reports that are hard to verify as truthful, with you running a range of opinions.
    And, truth be told, people are as likely to be trying to “get” AICN with a postive false review as a negative. Warner reps were at the screening, though the ones who attended are not execs likely to be sending false reports to AICN.
    I understand the anger and dissapointment of those who posted those comments. And I understand your personal intentions. When either seems too black or too white, I find it a bit frustrating. But as I wrote to a poster on another site, if my skin wasn’t thick enough to deal with it, I’d be doing something else.

  3. bicycle bob says:

    no one defends himself like mcweeny. he has it down cold. its too bad he doesn’t have the balls to go out on his own and leave harry cause u just know they do not get along on philosophy.

  4. Mark says:

    They got what they needed from their work on that site. The Weeny guy is now a screenwriter and Harry is helping produce movies. They’re not journos like Davey here.

  5. TheLifeAndDeathBrigade says:

    Wow. The BrotherhoodOfSteel has something in common
    with Bob and Mark. Shocking. As Bob so astutely
    put; McWeeny can defend himself amazing well.
    Again, I did not think Drew or AICN intentionally
    went out of their way to get Poland. I do believe,
    as I have all this year, that their earlier reviews
    have been more fake than not. Especially ones
    that have been posted on SP by the authors of these
    bogus reviews, but reviews never removed from AICN
    after preported to be bogus.
    If you are going to post an early review, then at
    least make sure it’s real. Have the integrity to
    admit you were had, apologize to the FILMMAKERS and
    the readers of the site, and move on. This has
    seldom happened.
    Drew, relax. We all know, that you have succeed
    in such a way, that makes name calling ridiculous.
    Just please accept that you have created certain
    contradictions that are glaring. No one is perfect.
    Your incredible leaps to make yourself look innocent.
    However, they only make you look more guilty or
    defensive.
    No one, now, is out to get you. People have reservations
    and forgive us if we do.

  6. bicycle bob says:

    i think i shed a tear or two, brother….

  7. TheLifeAndDeathBrigade says:

    HA! That’s a good one!

  8. Onyourmark says:

    Dave,
    I feel compelled to write because I think this whole AICN thing has gotten out of hand. I was the person who attended the screening and wrote the review of Phantom of the Opera. I’ve never submitted a review to their site before and didn’t realize that I needed to include information about the screening itself to give the review legitmacy. I wrote the review rather quickly after the screening so it was pretty brief…just giving some general impressions. I could have stated that the room was about 2/3 full and that you started the screening by telling us that you had just gone out on a limb today on your site by proclaiming this to be the picture to beat for the Oscar. You also told us that it was an easy film to knock, but it was one for the heart…something like that. My friend and I did not stay for the Joel Schumacher Q&A…well, frankly because we both thought the film was terrible…any questions I had for Mr. Schumacher wouldn’t have been appropriate for the evening. I also don’t think that an audience reaction after a screening…especially when people know that the director is there, is any good indication of people’s true feelings. People are on their best behavior. I can tell you that the audience I talked to disliked Beyond The Sea much more…but were still polite for Mr. Spacey. I think it’s funny that there was this whole AICN conspiracy theory about my one little review. I have never met anyone from AICN or have any type of vendetta against Warners or the film. In fact, I wrote the review mostly because you had gone out on a limb and proclaimed it to be Best Picture material and I had a counter opinion and wanted to express it. Dave, let me state again that Phantom of the Opera is a terrible film. Since my review I’ve seen others that have agreed. It has no lead performance (in the play, Michael Crawford and the Phantom WERE the show….his character was the main character and you couldn’t get enough of him). Strangely enough in the film The Phantom doesn’t command the same attention. Rossum’s character is passive and wimpy. Hmmm, which man should she choose? (At one point my friend whispered to me….Bitch, how about just leaving the opera house and make your own damn decisions). The movie is long and slow. Plus, as I stated in my AICN review, things that we accepted in the play…because they were theatrical, just don’t play the same way in the film. When I saw the candles rise from the water in the play, I thought…damn, this is good theater. In the movie I thought….hmmmm, how did the Phantom do that? (Of course in that whole awkward sequence that stops the movie cold, where Miranda Richardson lays on the whole “Elephant Man-ish” backstory, we learn he a genuis. The movie is mayonnaise. Middle america will probably eat it up. But Best Picture? I seriously doubt the film will even get nomimated. And the question still stands…how can a director as bad as Joel Schumacher. Flawless. Dying Young. The Lost Boys. Two terrible, franchise-ending Batman movies. And why…if he’s such a talent, does he only work at Warners? Seriously, what’s the deal? So, Dave, don’t be so paranoid. I will get a big laugh if this thing continues and people wonder whether the person who wrote this letter is actually the person who wrote in to AICN. Thanks for the screenings…they alot of fun!

  9. bicycle bob says:

    why even write into that shitbag site and post a review??? dumbass. u crave attention that much?
    and stop comparing it to the show. its not broadway
    its a movie

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