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The Sad Part About The Election

No matter who wins, about 35%of the country is going to be seriously cranky about the winner.

I can only hope that there will be record – or at least decent – voter turnout this year.

One thing is for sure… if Bush wins, we will stay the course, the agenda not changing much. If Kerry wins, the tone of his first 100 days, which will certainly include a focus on Iraq, will most surely be less about Iraq than the election campaign has.

It is time for America to move past the navel gazing.

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11 Responses to “The Sad Part About The Election”

  1. BrotherhoodOfBuffySummers says:

    Yes I hope we get past the navel gazing and the BS
    issues that are just not important on any friggin
    level outside of one’s opinion on something they
    find moral or not. Bush will never change, and
    our soldiers need a change. Our economy and everything
    on down.

  2. Eric says:

    I agree– I’d really love for the next four years to be less bitter, and I think it’s much more likely to be so if Kerry wins.
    But, as a Kerry supporter, I’m biased. I suppose it would be hypocritical of me to say “We’ve just spent four years fighting Bush tooth and nail, and now the Republicans need to settle down and accept Kerry for the good of the country.” That sort of reasoning is exactly what we hate about Bush.
    I do think a Bush loss will be a severe blow to the right wing, because he’s come to embody their side more than any individual ought to. Their fortunes rise and fall with him. But, either way, the rancor isn’t going away. And that thought exhausts me possibly more than another four years of Bush.

  3. mike2 says:

    The track record for second terms is pretty frightening: Clinton, Reagan, Johnson, and especially Nixon, all suffered mightily. Bush will, too, but not before he and his band of cutthroats ashcan that “stay the course” nonsense. Free from worrying about re-election, they will simply go berserk on every conceivable playing field: economic, social, educational, environmental, and of course, international. If history teaches us anything, it’s that messianic leaders eventually go down in flames, taking their nations with them. Too bad no one’s reading their history.

  4. Eric says:

    Mike, I suspect you’re right on two points.
    First, an unemcumbered second Bush term would drop any and all pretense of moderacy. Without a re-election campaign to worry about, they can use their single-party hold on the legislative and executive branch to force through some grand conservative goals– specifically, I’m thinking of Social Security privatization (disaster looming) and a broad shift of the tax burden from capital to labor.
    But it might not happen: Second, there’s a chance that a second Bush term would play out like Nixon’s second: any number of brewing scandals (CIA’s 9/11 report, WMD, Abu Ghraib, Valerie Plame, the energy task force, etc.) could finally spark and cripple the administration early in the term.
    If Bush wins, I’d be happy to see him knocked out like that, because I fear the changes he’d make. But I’m not counting on it– the press has proven itself woefully inadequate to facing the current Republican apparatus head-on, because the public is just complacent enough to let it all happen.

  5. Mark says:

    Thank God the Liberals are not in power. Maybe after losing the House and the Senate again they should redo their 50 yr playbook and get some new ideas. Liberals are fading away and losing power by the day. And the media and the Hollywood elite are the ones pissed and bitter.

  6. TheBrotherhoodAgainstTheRedStates says:

    Mark, what exactly are the liberals for again? And
    when exactly did Bush and the Neo-Cons ever represent
    a true conservative or republican? You are just
    a representation of the red states. A place
    where even though I live in, have become sickened
    I share a country with most of the people who live
    there.
    There is my America; the REAL America. Where people
    know the truth, know what has been going on, and
    have to share a continent with people who believe
    in their ridiculous morals more than they believe
    in real issues.
    I would rather be a liberal any day of the week, then
    a person from the red states who votes based off of
    fear and their religion.
    We are a country at WAR, with OURSELVES.

  7. bicycle bob says:

    liberals are on the wrong side of every arguement
    for more gov’t
    for less military
    for no preemption
    for gay marriage
    for higher taxes
    they don’t know how to communicate with middle america and they’re power erodes daily. only 10% of people call themselves liberal anymore. they don’t even like themselves

  8. Stella's Boy says:

    Bob, you’re not a real bright fella are you? Dubya has increased the size of the government, in case you haven’t been paying attention. Not very conservative right? I am happily against preemption, which is an insane and idiot way to govern. Gay marriage? Who are you (or anyone) to tell people what’s right and wrong, and what they can and can’t do behind closed doors? Are you happy being a closed-minded fool?

  9. Mark says:

    We’re in a war. That will trump WW2 when we look back on it. How are we supposed to not increase military spending? Dumbass. Typical Lib. Telling us whats right and wrong and how to live. If you haven’t figured it out yet, the real country doesn’t care and won’t listen to you.

  10. Stella's Boy says:

    Wait, liberals tell people how to live and what’s right and wrong? Um, no. You could not be more wrong. What about gay marriage? Abortion? Religion? It is conservatives who tell people how to live and what is right and wrong. Anyone with half a brain could figure that out.

  11. Brotherhood says:

    No Bob, we do not like you. Middle America has
    blue in it as well. Do not act like this has
    become some mandidate because it has not. And
    Mark, if this war becomes greater than WWII;
    Have fun being drafted asshole. Or maybe
    members of your family or some friend of yours
    because WWII was massive on a scale this war
    has never even touched.
    If you think that, you are a nudnick. The youth
    again, did not get out to vote, and this lost
    the election. Plus, most people in this country
    are just fucking dumb. Two women or Two Men
    cannot get married, but losing the Iraq and
    terrorism are not that important? Again, fucking
    stupid.

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