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Knowles Loves It… Welles Hates It… A Moment Of Zen

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21 Responses to “Knowles Loves It… Welles Hates It… A Moment Of Zen”

  1. L&DB says:

    Wells bitching about SW? Shocking. That’s what happens
    when you ride Gary Kurtz’ jock, and believe he had
    the best intentions for the franchise over Lucas.
    Silly Wells. Who would have thought that leaving
    Movie Poop Shoot would be a bad move? At least he
    hates LOTR too! HOORAY!

  2. jeffmcm says:

    Jeff Wells is much better at writing about celebrity gossip and which starlets are the drunkest than actual movies.

  3. L&DB says:

    I actually enjoyed reading Wells. Asides from the
    times he had to go off on something for no good reason.
    Then he left the worst named website ever, and arrived
    at a site. A site with some of the worst web design
    I have ever seen. It makes me appreciate Poland’s
    people. Since, I think She, has had a hand in at
    least three very good looking websites.
    Wells has his moments. This, not exactly one of them.

  4. Geoff says:

    Wow, these are just about the two most predictable reviews, based on their sources, imaginable. Wells certainly has a bug up his ass for mainstream entertainment, though he has had gone to bat for Titanic, in the past. And we all just knew that Knowles was not going to give this anything less than a rave.
    Although, I have to admit that I was wrong about Knowles’ review in the first Star Wars blog. I actually very much enjoyed his review, he did a fun analysis of the story, which I think is certainly the driving factor with this film.
    The consensus from most of the positive and even mixed reviews seems to be that Lucas has not completely gotten his shit together, regarding performances, dialogue, and pacing, but that the story really drives the movie home. I can buy that. L
    ook, we all love the LOTR films and I thoroughly enjoyed Return of the King, but on second viewing, that prolonged, poorly edited prologue is just so indulgent and repetitive. (What WAS he thinking during that frollicking-in-Frodo’s bed scene?) It keeps the film from reaching near perfection, but it doesn’t really hurt it for me, since I am glad to have seen this story wrap up. And yeah, that film deserved a lot of awards, but I think we all smirked a little when it won “Best Editing.” Come on!
    So if we can give some leeway to Jackson, I don’t have a problem giving leeway to Lucas.

  5. Stella's Boy says:

    For me, Wells has infinitely more credibility than Knowles. I hate Harry Knowles and his writing/reviews. I don’t always agree with Wells, but I enjoy his writing and value his opinions. Not everyone loves these movies, and why should they have to? We all have to love the same movies? Give me a break.

  6. Martin says:

    Agreed, Wells has some personal issues but I’ll take his thought process over Harry Knowles any day of the week. Harry’s reactions remind me of a six year old’s response to their first trip to the toy store. There’s gonna be a few toys in there the kid won’t like, but for the most part they are easily overwhelmed and in love with everything around them, with no critical faculty whatsoever. I don’t know if Wells is right about this particular movie, but he does have a clue.

  7. teambanzai says:

    I’ve never known why anyone takes anything Knowles says seriously. He’s just a fan boy with a website. Martin your discription is perfect. I have always thought he and his followers are a very small but very loud group. They seem to get way more credit for influencing films then they deserve.

  8. Dan R% says:

    I enjoy reading Wells more than I enjoy reading Knowle’s fan boy lunacy these days. Do I agree with Wells? Not all the time, but I don’t agree with Poland either all the time.
    Basically when it comes down to it liking or disliking a movie depends on the viewer. Knowles is predisposed to liking this film in the way he is predisposed to disliking anything Clint Eastwood does these days.
    He’s a fan who got lucky at the end of the day. I may be more inclined to agree with him than Wells when it comes to the new SW film, but I don’t think he ever brings any critique to the movie that can be called insightful.
    Sorta off topic but did anyone read the slant review of Ep. 3? Officially the first review dealing with real world politics…Can’t a movie just be a movie?

  9. Telemachos says:

    As always, the truth is comfortably in the middle of those two extreme reviews.

  10. GdB says:

    I’m a pretty unabashed Lucas apologist, but there is something interesting about how things changed when Kurtz left.

  11. Angelus says:

    I read Wells and I see the opposite of what he says. Hes a snob.

  12. McGillicutty says:

    Most years, Jeff Wells’ Top Ten list is very similar to mine. I don’t really see him as overtly snobbish. He doesn’t automatically like everything that is produced for a low budget. He is an educated adult and looks for cinema geared towards his demographic. Knowles, on the other hand, has all the writing ability of a seventh grader. I cringe every time I see a movie ad that features one of his many obnoxious raves. If you really want to get a sense of how easy the fat slob is to please, check out his monthly DVD picks. Rarely a bad word to be said about a great many stinkers.

  13. bicycle bob says:

    no argument there. knowles is bought and paid for and his reviews are torture to get thru. not even worth reading anymore cause i don’t really care if father geek bought cracker jacks or popcorn before a show or what C list celeb bumped into u and said hi.

  14. Lota says:

    Neither review is a real review of the movie, but more a reflection of what each thought of the SW Franchise before they even saw the movie.
    I don’t know Jeff Wells but Harry Knowles has been long past his Sell By date. He Used To (read Years ago) have some interesting geek takes on things, but over time the fat cells have log-jammed his body making his brain no longer function (i.e. he thinks he is ‘His Eminence’). Can he even walk unassisted?
    AICN sucks for reviews & web design.

  15. Chucky in Jersey says:

    Why is MCN whoring for Ain’t It Cool News? Harry Knowles is an unethical whore in bed with crooks — Film Threat took him apart 2-3 years ago.
    Sight unseen, I give this piece of overhyped product 1-2 weeks and then down the chute fast. Episode 3 won’t be enough to save Hollywood from a sorry summer.

  16. Terence D says:

    The AICN crew did what they wanted to do. They parlayed that site into film deals. Whether screenwriting, producing, directing,etc. They used it and used it well. What I do not like is the hypocrisy they promote since they still deny thats why they started and worked on the site.

  17. Mark says:

    They couldn’t be more hypocritical. They want to be treated like journo’s on one hand but on the other want the money, perks, free stuff that come with being fans. Its a no win when you try and straddle the fence.

  18. Chester says:

    Please forgive me, Mark, but I lost track of whom you were talking about. Were you describing the AICN guys or Tom DeLay?

  19. bicycle bob says:

    i think he was talking about hillary’s campaign which is about to go on trial for real crimes.

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