It finally struck me what is really problematic with the Huffington blogs… blogging is about strong feelings and even when inaccurate, it’s about someone’s sense of real truth…
Huff & Puff offers tell-alls that tell nothing.
Like any media outlet, Huff & Puff is going to have to build star writers. They could be celebs going in. But being a celebrity will never be enough.
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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
i was going thru the site. its really a site about nothing. julia dreyfuss talking about gay marriage? john cusack showing off that he went to hunter thompsons exclusive funeral? mike nichols rambling about god knows what. where are the real views? where are the good writers? i like cusack as an actor but do i care that he was buddy’s with hunter and went to his memorial? no.
The celebrities they have presently are C listers. She has not got anyone “powerful”.
I don’t feel as Dave does that blogging has any requirement to reflect strong feelings. But it does need to feel raw, personal, individual and unedited. That’s what is wrong with The Huffington Post so far. It looks like a magazine, not like my idea of a blog. Whatever your feelings about the site’s topics or contributors, the fact is that every piece seems pristine and polished for publication, as if each one goes through a team of editors and proofreaders. While some of it may make for interesting reading or even for newsworthy opinions, it just ain’t bloggy.
Wait a second, Chester. So you’re saying its not a great site? But its Liberal and all great art is Liberal. You’re going against yourself?
If he said that all great art is liberal, that does not mean that everything liberals produce is great art. Right? See the difference there?
It ain’t a blog, it’s a zine.
The only good thing liberals produce are voter turnout of conservatives and great sound bites when they run their mouths
So liberals have never made good art bob? You have never liked a movie that a liberal made? Wow, you must not like many movies.
they make good art. so do conservatives. thats the point. if it was only one group making art it wouldn’t be that interesting now would it? too bad u don’t see that
I don’t see that? How so? Please explain what you mean, using posts I have made to support your claim. I never said that conservatives have never produced great art. I would, however, love for you to provide some examples of great art that conservatives have made. Just to see what kind of taste you have. I’m curious.
I would really love to know how only Liberals and the Left thinkers produce great art. I can’t really think of a more outlandish thing to say unless you are just trying to strike up people. Art is not black and white or subjected to two groups here.
The next time I look at a piece of art or watch something I really have to make sure I ask the maker to say if hes a Conservative or a Liberal. Makes a lot of sense Stella’s Boy. I’ll be sure to ask every artist to put a disclaimer on their work for people that need to know.
I never said that Terence. Thanks joe. Please do that.
If you’re interested, the Nikki Finke piece led to an internal LA Weekly fight between Marc Cooper and Ms. Finke.
His first piece is here – http://marccooper.typepad.com/marccooper/2005/05/huff_puff_and_p.html
The ongoing saga is here – http://marccooper.typepad.com/marccooper/2005/05/nikki_finkeum_r.html
Stella, its exactly what you have been defending. Do you lose track of what you defend because it is so utterly pointless?
Dave, what did they do to Nikke to make her this mad?
I don’t know, Mark. But the fight between she and Cooper is not unfamiliar to me.
And he is not pure either… exaggerating the success of Day One by quoting “hits” instead of “page views” or “unique visitors” is bad pool too.
Big deal. I’m not impressed by her hits or yours, Dave. Now, when either of you can compare to cumonmyglasses.com, THEN you’ll have something to crow about.
That glasses site is gross. Bad advertising Joe.
i love the infighting between these people. makes for great reading
JoeFitz: I don’t look at the ads.
he sticks to the porno
Bob: Yes. And your point?
I’ve seen better porno sites. But not much though.
porn made the internet. there should be a signpost. its like the moe green of the www
Actually, when you think about it, “The Hot Blog” sounds like it should be the name for a porn site….
You mean this isn’t a porn site??
thats how dave gets everyone here. then we get sucked into this whole movie thing
Bait and switch, thy name is Poland.
You know, Bob, after giving your comment more thought… I am even more convinced that you’re right. (That’s right, not Right — no politics, OK?) Think about it: “Huff & Puff.” Now why would Dave use that as the name for a thread unless….
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Great reads, thanks.
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