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The Revolution Will Not Be Led By Todd Garner

I guess it’s list week here on the blog…
Here are the 30 films from Revolution Studios that led to Todd Garner not being re-signed as a partner in the company…
(gross & rental figures are worldwide… figures don’t account for Home Entertainment, P&A, or the cost to Sony of Revolution’s “housekeeping”)
2001
5 Films, Estimated Rentals – $300 million
Estimated Production Cost – $225 million

America’s Sweethearts – $139 million
The Animal – $85 million
Black Hawk Down – $173 million
The One – $73 million
Tomcats – $24 million
2002
6 Films, Estimated Rentals – $350 million
Estimated Production Cost – $300 million

Maid in Manhattan – $155 million
Master of Disguise $44 million
The New Guy – $32 million
Punch-Drunk Love – $25 million
Stealing Harvard – $15 million
xXx – $278 million
2003
10 Films, Estimated Rentals – $500 million
Estimated Production Cost – $700 million

Anger Management – $196 million
Daddy Day Care – $165 million
Darkness Falls – $48 million
Gigli – $8 million
The Missing – $39 million
Mona Lisa Smile – $142 million
Hollywood Homicide – $52 million
Peter Pan – $49 million (released by Universal domestically)
Radio – $54 million
Tears of the Sun – $44 million
2004
6 Films, Estimated Rentals – $325 million
Estimated Production Cost – $325 million

13 Going On 30 – $97 million
Christmas with the Kranks – $97 million
The Forgotten – $112 million
Hellboy – $100 million
Little Black Book – $22 million
White Chicks – $114 million
2005
2 Films, Estimated Rentals – $125 million
Estimated Production Cost – $150 million

Are We There Yet? – $96 million
Man of the House – $20 million
Just Starting Release
xXx: State of the Union – $14 million to date
Still Due Out This Year
The Fog
Rent
An Unfinished Life

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33 Responses to “The Revolution Will Not Be Led By Todd Garner”

  1. Josh Massey says:

    Thirty movies, and just two that I could consider solid entertainment (“Black Hawk Down” and “Punch-Drunk Love”). When “Hellboy” is the third-best film in your studio’s history, you just have to step back and survey the vast array of crap.

  2. jeffrey boam's doctor says:

    why not go thru and give us an overall estimate to red/black on each title? Can’t disagree with the disposal nature of most of these titles.. its an ugly view for sure. Plus they’ve got some major bombs they’ll blame on Garner for years.

  3. bicycle bob says:

    he had what they call the golden touch

  4. Don says:

    TOMCATS made $24 million?? Holy crap!

  5. teambanzai says:

    They had to have looked at the early cuts of XXX 2 Electric Boogaloo and realized there’s no way to save it, right?
    So are they just offering up his head as a scape goat or does he derserve full credit for the flops?

  6. Terence D says:

    Tomcats wasn’t a hit? But it had Jerry O’Connel and Jake Busey in it.

  7. right says:

    Peter Pan was an excellent movie, although clearly a financial disappointment (if not disaster)

  8. don says:

    Didn’t TOMCATS also have Miss Shannon Elizabeth in it?? Yum!
    Jesus, this is the most conversation generated by this film EVER. We should be ashamed…

  9. Mark says:

    And this will probably the last time its ever talked about. Until Horatio Sanz passes away.

  10. Shabadoo says:

    What good movies are on that list?
    I’d say Black Hawk Down is the best one hands down, I’d put The Missing and Hellboy in the “good, not great” pile.
    But everything else is just schlock. Let the man go. (I’m sure some of you like Punch Drunk Love, but I don’t).

  11. Dan R% says:

    The only films that are worth their weight are “Black Hawk Down”, “Punch-Drunk Love”, “The Missing”, “Peter Pan” and I do have a soft spot for “Tears of the Sun” and “Hellboy”.
    It was really unfortunate that PP was up against “Return of the King” in 2003, because if someone had decided to market it properly it could have found an audience in the families that thought LOTR would be too intense.
    I think that “Black Hawk Down” is damn near perfect. It won a couple tech Oscars…so I guess Todd Garner has something to be proud of.

  12. PeggyArcher says:

    Tomcats may have sucked – and tanked, but the paychecks were beautiful.

  13. jeffmcm says:

    Black Hawk Down is as shitty as the rest of them, it just has a veneer of patriotic respectability. Peter Pan and Punch-Drunk are the only movies on this list that have any lasting power.
    What’s interesting is that their run of bad and less-than-profitable movies lasted as long as it has. Was Hellboy really successful enough to merit a sequel?

  14. Spam Dooley says:

    jeffmom
    Black Hawk Down is by a master grade filmmaker.
    Punchdrunk and Peter Pan are already forgotton.
    As are you, cretin.
    I am Spam Dooley and I feed my people!

  15. KamikazeCamel says:

    I really liked Black Hawk Down. Sort of just one long action sequence that bested most action sequences that year. Peter Pan was indeed very good. It was jibbed of Special Effects, Production Design and Costume Oscar nominations. Never saw Punch Drunk Love but I’m not an Anderson fan.
    The One is one of my most reviled films of all time. It was one of the those rare movies that literally was awful from the first minute to the last.
    And I still remain adament that Gigli wasn’t as bad as people were saying. Sure, it was nothing more than a D+ but, worst movie ever made it was not.
    I thought An Unfinished Life was Miramax..?
    Rent should be at least decent, too.

  16. Martin S says:

    Just another sign that Revolution will eventually dissolve after MGM is fully integrated. It’s safer to feed off the Lion’s carcass than keep handing these guys a check.
    Sort of takes all those AICN/CHUD movie projects and puts them perspective, don’t it.

  17. Stella's Boy says:

    Huge fan of Punch-Drunk Love. Enjoyed Black Hawk Down. Thought The Missing was OK. Every other movie on that list is awful or worse. I could barely stay awake during Peter Pan. Surprised so many people seem to like it. Tears of the Sun is a comedy right?

  18. Terence D says:

    Punch Drunk Love was a good movie. It will get better as it ages and people appreciate it more and more.

  19. jeffmcm says:

    Black Hawk Down _is_ by a master filmmaker. One who doesn’t make good movies every time. It’s very well-made and entertaining. Unfortunately it also has no interesting characters (beyond ‘The American Soldier’) and reduces third-world conflicts to the level of a video game and Somalians to ants. In other words, it’s a Jerry Bruckheimer movie.
    The One should have been much better than it was. Very much a wasted opportunity.

  20. bicycle bob says:

    did u ever read the book jeff? it wasn’t intended to be a character piece. it was intended to show how a small group of american army men fared dealing with thousands of enemy soldiers. how they kept their cool. how they saved lives. really the movie is bashing clinton and his bullshit liberal military philosophy of act as policemen not soldiers. its what leads to situations like that and leads to guys like bin laden watching how big of a wussy the us gov’t was at the time and saying we’re weak.

  21. Stella's Boy says:

    bob, you really know nothing about politics and foreign affairs do you? Do you know anything about Mark Bowden and Ridley Scott? I suspect not. You are truly clueless.

  22. Terence D says:

    How is he clueless? Did the foreign policy put in effect by the CLinton administration directly lead to what happend in the book Black Hawk Down? Yes. It did. Unfortunately for us and our country it did. Those soldiers were sitting ducks out there with a government that would not back them up. It makes me sick to my stomach to even think about that.

  23. joefitz84 says:

    We should have never handcuffed our military. It’s not politics. Its war. You don’t think that was the message of BHD?

  24. jeffmcm says:

    I didn’t read the book. And I understand it’s not a character piece. That said, I thought the movie was jingoistic and self-pitying and didn’t reflect the complexities of the situation. Instead it urged you to be excited every time they mowed down another hundred faceless nameless Africans.

  25. bicycle bob says:

    that was what happend. a thousand vs a small squad that was assigned there for bullshit reasons. its a testament to our training and soliders that more of us didn’t die there. some real heroes. the movie showed heroism in battle while high lighting the political shitstorm it was.

  26. jeffmcm says:

    I have no argument about the specifics of why the troops were there. But the movie was rushed to completion after Sept. 11 to satisfy America’s bloodlust and self-pity. How many soldiers did we lose, a dozen? How many thousands of Somalis are shown getting blown apart? Gain a little perspective. The movie is a big blow-em-up video game.

  27. hikeeba says:

    You’re an idiot. Stop posting.

  28. Mark says:

    Please Jeff know the facts before you post something so dumb and assinine like that again. You sound like a complete idiot.

  29. jeffmcm says:

    What facts am I missing?

  30. Stella's Boy says:

    Mark, please learn how to spell asinine before you start calling someone else names and tell them to stop posting. In fact, for once, maybe you could actually say something intelligent and not just call someone names and insult them. You think anyone would miss you?

  31. Angelus says:

    Stella’s Boy, do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone or anything here? Every post you put up here is mean and inciteful. Why are you so angry with everyone that doesn’t agree with your points?

  32. Stella's Boy says:

    Angelus, have you even bothered to read any of bi-bob’s and Mark’s comments?

  33. bicycle bob says:

    there u go again stella. why do u always bring me up for ur little rants? u never answer a question. u answer questions with “bob said it to me”, “mark hurts my feelings”, “why am i so lonely?”, “why didn’t F-911 win the oscar?”. u know. just dumb stuff, pal. i know u have more than that in ya

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