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The Latest In Tourist Attire or Eyes Wide Shut II?

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68 Responses to “The Latest In Tourist Attire or Eyes Wide Shut II?”

  1. joefitz84 says:

    Big Ben? Parliament?

  2. Lota says:

    trafalgar square

  3. bicycle bob says:

    its a scientology meeting

  4. Kenn says:

    Omega man?

  5. Joe Leydon says:

    Tryouts for “The Seventh Seal II: Death Takes a Holiday”?

  6. Terence D says:

    Stella Boy’s family reunion after election night?

  7. jeffmcm says:

    Uh…the Mormon Tabernacle Choir: The Reckoning.
    In other news, has anyone noticed that Mutiny City News is horrible?

  8. Joe Leydon says:

    Jeff: Don’t tell Dave, you’ll only hurt his feelings. He thinks it is cutting edge.

  9. L&DB says:

    DAMN IT! That’s the last time I follow the instructions
    from the Illuminati. They say we are meeting in Encida,
    but they have the bloody meeting in LONDON! Accursed
    Illuminati. I knew I should have taken that blasted
    Tri-Lateral commission internship.

  10. evey says:

    Must be a scene from “V for Vendetta.” šŸ˜‰

  11. ray Pride says:

    nice they let them shut the place down which is rare as stories go

  12. Mark says:

    The Mutiny City thing must be Ray Pride.

  13. jeffmcm says:

    It clearly says, executive producer David Poland and Laura someone. You don’t like Ray?

  14. L&DB says:

    I think Laura is the person responsible for making
    this and other websites all nice and professional
    looking. Again….I think.
    And that picture just makes no damn sense. They
    close down Trafalgar Square. When they could have
    easily just shot a plate, used a blue screen set,
    and get the same result.
    People have got to get behind this whole technology
    thing.

  15. KamikazeCamel says:

    Surely you’re joking.
    I’m perfectly fine for them to use the whole blue-screen thing if the world the characters are in is extremely stylised and/or just too big and crazy to build on a limited budget, but if you can get the real Trafalga Square you USE the real Trafalga Square.
    Just like how “The Interpreter” was MUCH more interesting because it really used the UN. I know it’s a bit smaller scale than The Interpreter, but still..
    in OTHER news, i LOVE what Brooke Shields said about Tom Cruise and how he should shut up and go fight aliens. Precious.

  16. KamikazeCamel says:

    Okay, I don’t know where else to put this and this thread is as much of a logical place as any.
    There’s a link at MCN for a Time article announcing Paul Giamatti “The World’s Best Character Actor”
    …? Am I the only one truly baffled by this? He’s had American Splendor and Sideways, and that makes him the world’s best character actor? Oh, they also mention Planet of the Apes! Yet, no Storytelling (my favourite of his). But, still, how do two movies that were good (I personally didn’t like Splendor though and Sideways missed me by about 20-30 years I reckon) and now he’s suddenly the worlds best character actor? BULL. SHIT.
    And, secondly, isn’t the fourth letter down on this website ( http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=ANSWERMAN ) some of the funniest stuff you’ve ever read? I mean, seriously, HOW DARE GEORGE LUCAS WANT TO MAKE MONEY BY RELEASED A MOVIE ON THURSDAY!!!! Whoa. It’s like a conspiracy against the American Economy or something.

  17. L&DB says:

    No Camel, I am not joking. Extras and BIG EXTERIOR
    SETS can get to steppin in my mind. Again, from that
    picture, it looks like they could have just used a
    plate with a cgi set.
    Im all about the new fangled technology. Next step;
    the elimination of extras all together.

  18. jeffmcm says:

    Given that it’s a Wachowski film I’m surprised they’re not going the CGI route.
    Personally, I don’t think that just because you can have a totally CGI universe that means that you need to use it. Depends on the film. Sometimes you can’t beat reality.
    And actors like not having to work in a totally bluescreen environment.

  19. limahl says:

    KamikazeCamel; I understand your frustration at the over the top accolade heaped on TIME for Paul Giammati. He’s a very fine actor, who has a great niche in pathos ridden losers, but that seems to be the major extent of his range, so far. It’s not enough for him to be declared the worlds best character actor. It’s hype and hyperbole that TIME are engaging in. Seriously, 6 months ago, John C. Reilly was the “worlds greatest character actor”, according the media. And 6 months before that, Philip Seymour Hoffmann was “the worlds greatest character actor”. It’s sad when the media seems to have the attention span of gnats, and feel the need to elevate someone else as flavour of the month every once in awhile. It smacks of laziness. I’m no huge fan of Hoffmann or Reilly, but both have a much more proven range and resume than Giammati.
    And if we’re being honest, the best character actors in the world (imho) are seamless chameleons like Gary Oldman and Jeffrey Wright, who quite literally, remain unrecognisable from one part to the next and never repeat characterisations (unlike Giammati, who often does).

  20. jeffmcm says:

    It’s just part of the Cinderella Man hype machine. Time and Newsweek are rapidly losing their stature as news leaders, as I’m sure Dave P. would be happy to agree.

  21. bicycle bob says:

    losing? its already gone for those two. its what happens when u follow a political agenda and not real reporting. ask the ny times

  22. BluStealer says:

    Never thought I’d see the hate thrown Paul G’s way. Its not his fault he has had a few hit movies and received kudos for his performances. When he wins best Supporting Actor at the Oscars will you still hate him for selling out?

  23. PastePotPete says:

    I’m more interested in this link from MCN: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8048974/
    “You won

  24. joefitz84 says:

    Were you in negotiations with Crowe on that one? How do you know he wanted to do it? People really shouldn’t say things they know absolutely nothing about.

  25. bicycle bob says:

    the integrity is he didn’t take it did he? how do u know he didn’t get offered 7 mill for x men? or 15 for superman? the fact is he didn’t take the role.

  26. Movies For Pleasure says:

    Crowe turned down that role because Gladiator ran long and he was recovering from the injuries he got on that movie.

  27. Terence D says:

    Dougray Scott had the role and when shooting ran long on MI 2 he had to drop out. Crowe never took the role.

  28. Mark says:

    Crowe had the Wolverine role if he wanted it. It was sitting on his plate for six months.

  29. KamikazeCamel says:

    “Never thought I’d see the hate thrown Paul G’s way. Its not his fault he has had a few hit movies and received kudos for his performances. When he wins best Supporting Actor at the Oscars will you still hate him for selling out?”
    1. I’ve never particularly liked Paul G as an actor and I’ve never particularly liked his movies (I did like Storytelling but I think I’m in the extreme minority there) so for me to throw hate at him isn’t strange.
    2. The only movie that had a lauded performance by Paul and that was a hit (that I can think of) was Sideways. American Splendor wasn’t a hit. was it?
    3. I don’t hate him for “selling out”
    4. I don’t think he is “selling out”
    5. If he’s good in Cinderella Man and he wins the Oscar then good for him but if he gives another performance in the “schlub” catagory (as I like to call it) that isn’t great or memorable then I won’t be happy. I won’t hate him for it because I can see how people can like him, but he’s personally not my cup of tea.
    6. I just found the Time article sort of hilarious.

  30. L&DB says:

    I once told a group of girls talking about Storytelling;
    “that it’s a really funny movie.” That went over
    really really badly.
    Secondly, I love Paul Giamatti. As a Howard Stern
    fan, seeing him as Pig Virus has sort of made me
    a fan of his for life. Not to mention he has consequently
    gotten better and better in each role he does. Personally,
    my f0avourite bit of Giamatti’s ever can be found in
    SINGLES.
    Saying he has sold-out. Totally misses the point of
    selling out. It also ignores the ridiculousness of
    stating anyone has ever sold-out. Since, if you
    are in pop-culture in anyway possible. You sell
    some part of yourself to just be involved. It’s
    just how it works. OF all people, calling Giamatti
    a sellout makes no damn sense. None.
    If his role in CM garners him an Oscar win. Good.
    He should have won one in March, but ruttin Hollywood
    has such a ruttin PRUTRUBENCE for Clint Eastwood.
    That they cast Giamatti to the side to praise Rawhide
    for such great films as The Rookie, Blood Work, and
    his count with Orangutang work over the years.
    If the last 9 Best Actresses can win by either being
    white trash, victimized, warping their bodies, or
    putting on a bloody fake nose to ugly themselves up.
    Then Giamatti should get that Oscar, get all Cuba
    on it, and then scream out; “WHO DO YOU LOVE
    MOTHER*******? WHO DO YOU LOVE?”
    Okay. That might be a bit far fetch. Yet it would
    make for some really good TV, and make Terence
    cry. CRY LIKE A WEE LITTLE BABY!
    Boy. Someone needs to update the blog. When Poland
    is off having an advantaged life. Or getting taking
    a spitz in Boca.

  31. L&DB says:

    I once told a group of girls talking about Storytelling;
    “that it’s a really funny movie.” That went over
    really really badly.
    Secondly, I love Paul Giamatti. As a Howard Stern
    fan, seeing him as Pig Virus has sort of made me
    a fan of his for life. Not to mention he has consequently
    gotten better and better in each role he does. Personally,
    my f0avourite bit of Giamatti’s ever can be found in
    SINGLES.
    Saying he has sold-out. Totally misses the point of
    selling out. It also ignores the ridiculousness of
    stating anyone has ever sold-out. Since, if you
    are in pop-culture in anyway possible. You sell
    some part of yourself to just be involved. It’s
    just how it works. OF all people, calling Giamatti
    a sellout makes no damn sense. None.
    If his role in CM garners him an Oscar win. Good.
    He should have won one in March, but ruttin Hollywood
    has such a ruttin PRUTRUBENCE for Clint Eastwood.
    That they cast Giamatti to the side to praise Rawhide
    for such great films as The Rookie, Blood Work, and
    his count with Orangutang work over the years.
    If the last 9 Best Actresses can win by either being
    white trash, victimized, warping their bodies, or
    putting on a bloody fake nose to ugly themselves up.
    Then Giamatti should get that Oscar, get all Cuba
    on it, and then scream out; “WHO DO YOU LOVE
    MOTHER*******? WHO DO YOU LOVE?”
    Okay. That might be a bit far fetch. Yet it would
    make for some really good TV, and make Terence
    cry. CRY LIKE A WEE LITTLE BABY!
    Boy. Someone needs to update the blog. When Poland
    is off having an advantaged life. Or taking
    a spitz in Boca.

  32. ARoomWithAMoose says:

    Uh…oops.

  33. KamikazeCamel says:

    Storytelling was hilarious.
    I kind of wish the whole James Van der Beek gay footballer storyline was still there though because that sounded like cinematic gold.

  34. joefitz84 says:

    Again I’ll say it. There is nothing worse than reading a LDB posting. Its’ like sitting thru a Renny Harlin period drama.

  35. Terence D says:

    The Dawsons story must have been really bad for them to cut it from the movie. Since that was the only reason it got funding.

  36. bicycle bob says:

    camel why do u hate paul g so much? hes just doing his thing. hes not mel gibson here. he is a schlub

  37. Stella's Boy says:

    Terence, didn’t Van Der Beek demand that his story be cut from the film? I thought that’s why it was cut, because of him. But maybe I’m remembering wrong.

  38. BluStealer says:

    No one does the second banana, everyman type role better than Paul Giammati. You just got the backlash going. I think Paul will survive Camels hatred.

  39. bicycle bob says:

    hes getting quality roles every year now. i don’t think he cares too much

  40. joefitz84 says:

    The Beek didn’t demand it be cut. It was cut because it didn’t fit in the final cut because they needed to get to a certain time. Curious move by the producers since they probably would have made a fortune with people watching the Beek get some man love.

  41. Terence D says:

    It got cut because it did not look believable on film. Well, thats what they said. Supposedly, his acting was not good and the story didn’t fit. The scene has made the rounds on vhs. Its becoming almost an urban legend.

  42. joefitz84 says:

    Four people saw the movie anyway. They should have left it in.

  43. Angelus says:

    It was a good thing they took it out. I saw it. It was really that bad.

  44. jeffmcm says:

    The movie is 80 minutes long without it and a little slow at that. It couldn’t have been to make a running time.

  45. Mark says:

    He peaked with Welcome to the Dollhouse.

  46. BluStealer says:

    Count me in for seeing Dawson on all fours and getting it from Pacey.

  47. L&DB says:

    Joe, nothing worse than reading the responses of
    a, as we say here in the hood, “cracker ass cracker
    cracker. Like a Salt Free Saltine with even less
    flavour.” I will try to “white-in” up for you next
    time joe. Maybe you should get in that “extrapolation”
    class with jeff. You are quite a few weeks back
    however. Jeff really has been making strides these
    past few days.
    The VanderBeek stuff got cut because it was too
    close to home. Thanks to him and John Wesley
    Shipp bumping uglies on Dawson’s Creek got leaked
    to the press. Ol’James and his representation asked
    Todd, and he cut it. Also, thanks to his need of
    Wesley Shipp lovin. They had to kill of Dawson’s
    dad to get those two apart. Which makes those episodes
    extra creepy to watch in retrospect and even at
    the time.

  48. joefitz84 says:

    Maybe if you had a clue LDB, someone here would take you seriously. Too bad you’re a know it all who doesn’t know anything.

  49. jeffmcm says:

    I haven’t been making strides, LDB, sometimes you just type better than other times. But seriously, why are your posts all crammed into skinny columns like that?

  50. KamikazeCamel says:

    Why do people thing i HATE Paul Giamatti? I just didn’t agree with an article calling him “The World’s Greatest Character Actors” after a whole whopping TWO performances that people actually acknowledged and in movies that people actually acknowledged.
    I do admit that I’m not a fan but I don’t hate him. I sort of liked him in Sideways for what he was doing, but maybe I’m like the Academy in that I don’t find anything particularly great in watching a shlub act like a shlub.
    Virginia was definitely the performance of Sideways, without a doubt.
    But as someone said up there, I’m sure Paul will survive the negative vibes that are emmenating from me. Especially considering he’s in the US and I’m here in the south of Australia (where it’s totally freezing btw)

  51. joefitz84 says:

    LDB is a real jerk who really doesn’t get it. I kinda feel bad for her.

  52. Mark says:

    Camel, who do you hate Paul G? Do you look like him or something? Relax, buddy.

  53. jeffmcm says:

    No way is LDB a her.

  54. PastePotPete says:

    Yeah, the same Russell Crowe integrity that gave us Virtuosity and The Quick and the Dead… didn’t realize his fan club read this site.

  55. L&DB says:

    Joe, what in the blue hell are you talking about? You insult me. Yet you get all uppidy. When I respond to you in kind? Why dont you stop typing out of your bloody arse, and realize that slagging people gets you slagged back. Too bad you are a little boy who cant handle it getting thrown back in his face. SUCKA! Jeff, I always type fine. I have no idea what your, or anyone else who complains about my typing, problems are. Outside of maybe total and utter pretentiousness, but I like thinking better of people. So to sum: JoeFitz a disgrace to the Joe name around. Jeff, might be pretentious or he may not. The jury is still out. One more thing; it’s not that cramped. If you have a bigger font size on your browser.

  56. Dan R% says:

    From V to Vendetta to Paul Giamatti to insult hurling…this blog has it all!

  57. L&DB says:

    Also, we once had online poker. Fun times man. Fun times.

  58. Joe Leydon says:

    Anyone see the Friday box-ofice figures? “Longest Yard” as No. 1? Cowabunga!

  59. joefitz84 says:

    LDB is definately a woman. No male is this annoying.

  60. L&DB says:

    Joe, you know by calling me a ‘woman.’ You are
    essentially stating your dislike for women and all
    of their qualities. Not that I am a woman. Luckily,
    unlike you, my manhood can be seen without the use
    of a magnifying glass. So I wake up everyday knowing
    I am man. You on the other hand, have to feel around,
    ask your mom to look, but you still dont feel ‘manly’
    enough. How sad for you. Of course, you might
    have been born in 1984. Meaning, not only are you
    a cracker ass cracker aka a Dulltine. But you are
    also a *****. You figure out the stars. After you
    have your manhood inspection.

  61. KamikazeCamel says:

    “Camel, who do you hate Paul G? Do you look like him or something? Relax, buddy.”
    I’m gonna use that old emo blogger thing here:
    *le sigh*
    It’s basically the only thing that can sum up my reaction to reading that.

  62. jeffmcm says:

    LDB, how did you fix your column width? And why did it revert to skinny?

  63. L&DB says:

    Jeff, I have no bloody idea? Colour me confused.

  64. KamikazeCamel says:

    I was wondering the same thing.

  65. joefitz84 says:

    LDB, I only call them how I see them. If you’re not a female please state it. I thought I was complimenting you because really theres no way you’re a male.

  66. jeffmcm says:

    Your compliment was “no male could be this annoying.” Ladies, give Joe a big hand for his sensitivity.

  67. BluStealer says:

    Well, there is a more annoying male out there. His name is Jeffrey. Clap it up.

  68. joefitz84 says:

    I’ll take it back. Jeff is more annoying and lets hope the parents of little Jeff didn’t name their proud daughter Jeff. You never know with these kooks.

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