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I Don't Know What's Been Going On…

… but people seem to be very upset about personal attacks on the response section of this blog.
I, for one, feel it would be very sad if I had to shut down the comments section of this blog.
But I am not going to babysit either.
There is no reason to call other participants names. When you disagree, you can assert your position without attacking others. And if you can’t we’ll just have to pack it in.

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82 Responses to “I Don't Know What's Been Going On…”

  1. Joe Leydon says:

    I was in Memphis for a few days, having way too much fun to keep up with any blog, anywhere. But when I got back home and checked out the postings here, I got a near-toxic overdose of the nastiness that had accumulated during my absence. I haven’t posted on any other threads lately because, frankly, the personal attacks are worse than vicious — they’re boring. Even when someone raises an interesting subject, too many other people offer nothing but stupidity and/or hostility to the discussion. And I can’t help noticing that some familiar names are conspicuous by their absence. Maybe they’ve decided it’s no longer worth the effort to deal with such nonsense. Maybe they’re right.

  2. joefitz84 says:

    If you are going to post you should be able to deal with the heat when someone doesn’t agree with you. Not everyone will agree with everyone else. If you can’t and get upset then you shouldn’t post and just listen because it’s not worth it. Crying is not the way to get your point across. It’s a movie blog after all is said and done.

  3. Panda Bear says:

    Memphis? The sunshine state? Gorgeous!
    People really shouldn’t get bent out of shape over a discussion. Especially discussions related to film. I respect the passion but get a grip on life.

  4. PastePotPete says:

    I agree with Stinky Dave, the name-calling has gotten out of hand.

  5. JW says:

    Joe, you were in town? Could have bought you some ribs or something. Look, if there’s anyone getting attacked around here; it’s me. Go look at all the threads. Im the one who gets bashed by upwards to 7 people. I can respond with cursing and a rant all day. But what kind of fun does that add to my day? Joe, you might have missed the point of Poland’s posting. You should not get HEAT for anything you post. You should not even get the level of CATTINESS this blog has seemingly been overrun with. In what way does civility exist. When people start insulting me for post, the way I write, and so on. How in anyway is that respectful of another poster?
    Again, Im not saying I have not had a hand in any rebel raising around here. It’s just absolutely NO FUN to post here. When I, ALONE, have to deal with a barrage of insults. Heck. I did not even complain, or CRY, as joe put it to Poland. I just want to post, have a discussion, without having my balls chewed off. IS that really too much to ask?
    Whateverthecase, Drew McWeeney believes me to be a Poland ballwasher. That guy, he really needs some anger management or maybe a hug…

  6. jeffmcm says:

    Joefitz, you offered a pretty lame excuse for someone who’s one of the leading offenders on the blog. Let me say right now, I apologize for my part in anything that might have offended anybody, even you, JW.

  7. KamikazeCamel says:

    joe, I think as film lovers we KNOW that there are people who will disagree with us but it’s just downright PATHETIC when somebody says they like or doesn’t like a certain movie and then gets lambasted because they only liked/disliked said movie because they are a lefty/righty and then it always gets into boring and monotonous politics debates that end so far off the topic that it’s rediculous.
    (I feel like ribs now)

  8. Joe Leydon says:

    Hey, I was born and raised in New Orleans, so I’m used to great food. But the cuisine in Memphis? Let’s put it like this: All thoughts of dieting went right out the window. I’ll be paying for that trip for a while, and not regretting a second. Everything from the Ass-Kicking Chicken (yep, that’s what they call it on the menu) at B.B. King’s to the ribs at Marlowe’s. Yum, yum. Reasonable prices, too. Hell, even the souvenirs at Graceland were, by touristy standards, relatively cheap. You can

  9. Angelus21 says:

    I didn’t realize grown men could be such utter babies about things. That’s why women need to run things.

  10. Chester says:

    Dave, if we’re finally going to talk about this topic, let’s not talk in circles around what needs to be targeted. Let’s deal with this seriously, bluntly and to the point. Everyone who punches in here regularly knows damn well that the civility problems on this blog are (mostly) the result of a die-hard faction of infantile right-wing troublemakers. And the issue is not so much the pungent personal insults (which are indeed bad enough) as the outrageous made-up lies used as a constant line of personal attack, which get posted here without any consequences whatsoever.
    It has been suggested on numerous occasions that these right-wing posters, who operate under seven or eight pseudonyms, are actually just one or two people, and I believe that to be the case. How can one tell? THEY ARE ALWAYS IN LOCK-STEP WITH EACH OTHER! Seriously, has anyone ever seen any of the Republicans here disagree with each other about ANYTHING (and I’m not just talking about politics)??? Furthermore, there have been periods when every single one of them disappears for several days at a stretch, then suddenly and magically reappear together. Oh, and they are all cunning enough to kiss Dave Poland’s ass on a regular basis to make sure they don’t inspire his personal wrath. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
    It’s not a matter of political partisanship, Dave. It’s a matter of dealing with a growing insect infestation. Let me be the first one here who dares to say what we all know to be true: The only way to solve this problem is to permanently ban bicycle bob, Mark, Terence D, joefitz84, Lester Freed, blustealer, etc. When you figure out how to eliminate these students of Goebbels, this discussion blog will once again be habitable. If you refuse to recognize these punks for what they are or simply don’t have the time/energy/means/stomach to police them appropriately, then I’m afraid that, yes, you might as well shut this place down.

  11. Lefty says:

    We should all heed the principles of peace and love and come together as a group of individuals. And help make this world a better place through community and understanding.

  12. David Poland says:

    Chet –
    Heal thyself.
    You just made a blanket judgement of people’s beliefs instead of just saying “These are the people who I think are making trouble.”
    No one in here inspires my personal wrath. What I like about this format is the discourse… when it is smart and relatively civil.
    Calling people “students of Goebbels” is neither smart nor civil.
    You are welcome to your opinion and even the occasional political slam, but the trouble almost always seems to begin when one of you decides you know how the others think and instead of just holding your position, you have to attack others for having theirs.
    Fuckin’ stop it… please… you all know who you are and how you roll…

  13. Chester says:

    Dave, um, do you read the comments posted on your own blog on a regular basis? I’m not sure that you do, because if you did you wouldn’t be dismissively asserting that I’m making “a blanket judgement of people’s beliefs.” If you cannot recognize that all of the people I listed fall under a very distinct profile, then you clearly are not familiar enough with their writings to be criticizing my assessment.
    “Students of Goebbels” means they utilize “the big lie” approach. That is: The bigger and more incredible the lie, the more likely people are to fall for it. Dave, you are able to say my use of that phrase “is neither smart nor civil” only because you haven’t been victimized by this tactic on these pages. Like I said, these guys have quite evidently made a conscious effort to never offend you personally.

  14. Stella's Boy says:

    Dave, the only people making blanket judgements are the individuals Chester pointed out. He is dead-on. They are the problem.

  15. JW says:

    21, Im sure you love having a nickname created by a well-known liberal. The irony of it all. No one needs to be calling people ‘girls’ or ‘queens’ or any other lame heterosexual male way of slamming someone. No matter what Tommy Gavin believes. That sort of thing does not always instill comrodery in everyone.
    Jeff, yo, you know we dont have any problems. We are just likely to disagree more than agree. It happens, not like that ends civility or anything.
    But yeah, we should all try to get along. If not, then, fuck it. Why are we here? What enjoyment can be had when balls are getting busted every two seconds? Let us, all, hopefully, agree to chill.
    Now time to defend the FF again…

  16. JW says:

    Oh yeah, Joe Leydon, on behalf of one of the FATTEST cities in the US, OUR BAD. Sorry for ruining your diet.

  17. Joe Leydon says:

    JW: Yeah, like I really minded gaining four pounds in three days. I’ll gladly trade a week or two on Slim-Fast for three days of ribs, chicken, catfish, etc.

  18. Eric says:

    From time to time DP brings up the matter of civility on this blog. The resulting comments are almost always modest, civil, and apologetic. The apparent enemies, by the end of the discussion, sort of make up and agree that the other may not be an idiot.
    Meanwhile, on every other concurrent discussion, comments posted by those very same people at the very same time are the very same vindictive, name-calling garbage as ever.
    What I’m saying is that you can’t really shame people into behaving better for long. The people who argue here are neither exclusively left-leaning nor right– only childish. It’s exhausting, and it drives away those who are interested in good discussion.
    And yes, it’s clear that some people post under multiple aliases, to create a sort of artificial gang. But there’s no need at the moment to name names.
    Mandatory registration won’t help. It’s too easy to register multiple names. The problem would be alleviated somewhat by a threaded comment system, Slashdot style, but I doubt the Movie City News people want to put the time into implementing that.

  19. jeffrey boam's doctor says:

    well i’ve offered a group hug (and beer) to anyone heading to the toronto film fest to clear the air. Since 1994 i’ve met folks from the net whom i initially thought were utter assholes only to find them engaging and fun in person. i’d like to think that’s the case around here too. i haven’t been avoiding the blog due to the bitterness – just increased workload and travel.

  20. Panda Bear says:

    Best ribs in the world. Tennessee.

  21. Chester says:

    Eric, that was beautifully stated. The only part I don’t agree with is your reluctance to name names. As you said, Dave and others (including me) have raised this issue all too frequently and, truth be told, it’s always the same unyielding perpetrators. After so many warnings for months on end, I see no problem with outing and banishing them forever.
    BTW, I just wanted to make clear that my earlier references to their political leanings should not be taken as an attack on conservatives in general. Right-wing allegiance just happens to be a uniform identifying feature of these particular idiots. But they should not be mish-mashed with all the other self-proclaimed conservatives on this site (e.g., Josh Massey) who don’t indulge in the kinds of dirty tricks at issue here. I personally hope to see all relevant and diverse perspectives welcomed (and debated and challenged) here. But that doesn’t mean that overt lies and personal slanders should in any way be tolerated.

  22. Panda Bear says:

    Chester,
    From my time here you are one of those people. Will you take responsibility for your actions instead of calling that kettle black? I hope you will.

  23. Joe Leydon says:

    So, Dr. Jeff: Are you going to actually pick up the tab for these beers in Toronto? (Of course, I will need to drink LIGHT beer….)

  24. Lota says:

    I am a conservative, but not a party affiliated one so I find it very embarrassing that somehow a person’s politics, on a movie Blog would become a log to beat them with.
    But blogs do require moderation, and really should be read everyday by the moderator not as a babysitter, but for three strikes you’re out. It does work and bullies who want to stay will be civil or leave.
    The same people start it, but perhaps it is best not to respond, and hope they be given email notice from Dave(typekey). Dave has asked people to knock it off before, but thy don’t, clearly. ASking doesn’t work.

  25. Chester says:

    Panda Bear, pardon me, but who are you? Seems pretty clear you are the newest member of the gang in question. I don’t know you nor have I ever dealt with you here, and I have only seen you posting for the last couple of weeks or so – and I have not posted at all during that period – so what other explanation can there be for your making an unfounded statement like that about me?
    True, I have duked it out with some people on this site. Yet I have always taken full responsibility for my own comments and have even posted apologies to several people when I realized I was too harsh toward them. (Who else has?) But that’s not even the issue, Panda Bear. The issue on which I’ve focused all of my comments here has been the disgusting lies invented by you and your cohorts to misdirect people on this blog. When have I EVER made up a lie about anyone here?
    (OK, let’s watch as the avalanche of lame fabrications about my Hot Blog history begins to crash down … Dave, take names!)

  26. Panda Bear says:

    People in glass houses shouldn’t throwing stones like you above anything. That’s my point and you just proved it with that response. Now take a look in that mirror and change your ways before you go blasting people who don’t agree with you.
    Thank you.

  27. joefitz84 says:

    Chester you’re a baby. Is that me calling you names? You going to moan and throw a tantrum that I have messed with your manhood? Relax and grow up. You must be a real pain in the keyster to your family if you’re crying over how people treat your movie sensibilities here. Just because people don’t agree with you or even give you any credit for your opinions doesn’t mean you have to attack them with lame brain personal attacks. Just grow up.

  28. Bruce says:

    Anyone who takes a position opposite of you, Chester, is part of a gang?
    Do I get a cool gang name and maybe some tat’s if I be on the other side of you? If I have to wear colors I prefer blue to red. Brings out my eyes.
    And I like the name T Bone since I am skinny and could use the beef.

  29. JW says:

    Well, due to Lefty using my email addy, Im part of a ruttin duo. Well, he or she has to be the Boy/Girl Wonder! Im Batman dang it! If you are going to use the addy. Youve got to be the sidekick! HOLLLLAAAAAAA!
    joe, stop with the cattiness. Chester has not been that considerate to me, but WE HAVE TO BE CIVIL. If not, then, no more commenting for us.
    Can we make it happen? Will civility come to the blog? Stay tuned to find out!

  30. jeffrey boam's doctor says:

    joe – of course the tabs on me (even tho it’d pain me to shout lite beer) – I know your Variety gig and teaching won’t cover for your kids ivy league college years. So don’t fret, I’ll add all these expenses to the overheads of some indie feature I’m selling. will drop you a line closer to time.. anyone else going it’d be nice to chat over a decent sirloin somewhere. Or we could simply have fun interrupting Dave as he’s hitting on some starry eyed EYE staff member at a soiree.

  31. KamikazeCamel says:

    Can I simply point out that from my point of view I can’t really tell a lot of you guys apart…
    Doesn’t matter if some are left and some are right because a lot just kind of blur into one another. That’s why I try not to get into full on arguments with people, because I wouldn’t be able to remember specific details from 6 months ago, which some people seem to be able to do.
    There is one person, however, that I really dislike here (no, not JW!) whose name I will not mention. But, damn, they’re annoying.

  32. Joe Leydon says:

    Dave ALWAYS hits on cuties at film festivals, Dr. Jeff. I mean, let’s be frank: The man is a slut. Maybe not as slutty as me — I’ll bet he’s never checked into a $10-an-hour motel on Elvis Presley Boulverad for cheap thrills with a buxom hottie — but, then again, I don’t put moves on every good-looking female publicist/journalist/filmmaker/filmmaker rep/assistant filmmaker rep within a 12-mile radius of Park City and/or Toronto. And those lines he uses! “Hey babe, wanna see my blog?” Shame on you, Dave. Shame on you! (Unless the line works. Then: Atta boy, Big Guy!)
    But seriously, Dr. Jeff: I don’t want you rooking no indie filmmaker so I can soak up some light suds. I never let an indie filmmaker pick up a tab while I’m around. Hell, I took a lunch check away from John Cassavetes once. I figure, damn, as broke as I am, I’ll never be as broke as an indie filmmaker. Look, Cassavetes acted in movies like “The Incubus” to finance his own films. That, my friend, is dedication.

  33. JW says:

    Camel, at least I dont read like anyone else. And yes, I talked smack to you the other day as if I were Ric Flair. I apologize. Sometimes I, just want to be, a LIMOSINE DRIVIN, JET FLYIN, SPACE RIDIN…sorry. I Flaired out there.
    Man, the way D-po wears a shirt demonstrates he’s a playa. If only he had a pimp medallion. Or had a cowboy thing like Robert Picardo in Innerspace. Think about that whackiness.

  34. Joe Leydon says:

    JW: What makes you think Dave DOESN’T do that when he’s on the make? The man makes Richard Roundtree look dorky. He’s a sex machine. Around him, I feel so inadequate.

  35. JW says:

    You mean. Poland has the ability to clothesline opposing Wide Receivers to such an extent. They would later make a rule banning it? Wow. He does make Richard Roundtree look inadequate. My god. MY GOD!

  36. Joe Leydon says:

    Not only that: He has the power to cloud women’s minds. Like Lamont Cranston.

  37. JW says:

    That’s a good one.

  38. Lota says:

    Lamont Cranston?! Maybe not as good Lamont Sanford but…how sad that Dave’s a cheap pimpster Ho!
    And to think I’ve seen him from a distance at events and never said to my posse. “Yo there’s that Critic HO!” I guess he was wearing a floor-length red velvet coat and had a fedora with an ostrich feather in it with a large gold cast pendant around his neck saying D-PO, but I just thought he was dressing like a Studio Exec for a special occasion.
    Now I better get going to Chinatown or I’ll get outbid on baubles.

  39. Lota says:

    oh.
    by the way Dave, maybe it’s time to “own up” now that Joe’s outed you, and change the name of the blog to The Ho Blog, and the HotButton to the Ho Button. Phat.

  40. Long-Winded Bastard says:

    Well, if even a badger like Luke Ford couldn’t find out what female star David actually made out with, I doubt any of us are as sheerly dogged enough to learn her name … lord knows he plainly ain’t ever gonna tell. (It strikes me as mildly but tastily perverse that I discovered such widely diverse personages as Poland, Jeffrey Wells, James DiGiorgio, Cathy Seipp, Dennis Prager, and the “sex addict” blogger all by reading this one Luke Ford, himself one of the net’s more, eh, distinctive characters.)
    Heh, somebody else remembers “The Incubus.” Poor Cassavetes! At least “The Fury” (which I love, actually) was a huge-budgeted picture (and as Pauline Kael observed, he gets the best sendoff for any movie villain ever, although there are equivalents, such as Alan Rickman’s sayonara in “Die Hard”). At least Cassavetes emerged from the “Incubus” debacle with his filmmaker’s reputation intact; its director went on to such treats as “Howling 4” (basically a straight-faced remake of the first one with even less money and zero humor, it’s more or less a transcription of the novel that started it all, right down to the idea that you practically never actually get to SEE any werewolves).

  41. jeffmcm says:

    Maybe The Fury had a strong villain’s death in 1978, but in today’s film world it seems almost anticlimactic. One of my favorites is the low-budget movie – and I don’t know the title – where the bad guy gets decapitated but still has time to peek up the heroine’s dress before he dies.

  42. jeffrey boam's doctor says:

    jeff – that scene with the head is lil jim muro’s low-fi cult classic STREET TRASH – where the villain gets his noggin and half his chest smashed thru with an out of control oxygen tank. But to say Cassavette’s ending in the FURY is anticlimatic is simply wrong. It still stands as one of the most memorable – and believe me I’ve seen a dvd boot compilation called the 1000 greatest deaths from all of cinema. (don’t ask) The FURY is still a doozy.

  43. Lota says:

    b.t.w. just kidding above DP. DPo can fling his bling at whomever. the blog doesn’t judge.
    i saw the Fury as a kid and it scared me. i saw it becasue one of the neighbors was in it, so we of course were invited to view it to see if we could ‘recognize’ him. icky ending.

  44. jeffmcm says:

    Well, maybe it was overhyped before I saw the movie, because my initial reaction was “oh, that’s it?”
    But thanks so much for Street Trash!

  45. Joe Leydon says:

    I may be wrong about this — I may be forgetting someone — but I think D-Po is the only white man I’ve ever seen drink malt liquor. I dunno, maybe it was the Billy Dee Williams TV spots that influenced him. But damn! To see him-chug-a-luging down a mess o’ Colt 45 during a night on the town — it’s spooky. And mind you, I’ve watched my Irish dad soak up Jameson like a sponge while we’ve been pub-crawling in Dublin, so you’d think nothing about drinking could scare me anymore.

  46. Panda Bear says:

    As a white man I can proudly say I have drank malt liquor. It is good for the quick buzz especially when pregaming.

  47. Joe Leydon says:

    I prefer a quick guzzle of Monster Low Carb before I even try to do do Playstation with my son. And even then, he whips my ass at NBA Live 2005 every freakin’ time.

  48. Lota says:

    aw man. these guys who think they’re Billy Dee or Superfly and life is just one long Curtis Mayfield concert. [shakes head sighing]
    I guess as long as Dave aint drinkin Thunderbird (or prescription robitussin) out of a paper bag, we won’t worry.

  49. Lota says:

    here Dave (and Joe since the sponge thing may be genetic),
    if ever on a downward spiral, one must do things the “right” way: http://www.bumwine.com

  50. Joe Leydon says:

    Lota: Jesus! Mad Dog 20 20? They still make that stuff? It hasn’t been banned by the FDA yet?

  51. Joe Leydon says:

    Curtis Mayfield is a cool due, no doubt about it, and his

  52. Lota says:

    i think the government believes that “fortified wines” will reduce the surplus population, as my old mate Charles Dickens used to say. It’s a funny website.
    So Joe, does Dave wear a cape at junkets and make you refer to him as “Lando”?

  53. Panda Bear says:

    Mad Dog is supported by college kids and high school kids.

  54. Joe Leydon says:

    Lota: Lately, Dave has asked me to refer to him as either Cassidy or Hustla, ’cause he says he’s keeping it real in tribute to “a fellow playa who can’t be with us.”

  55. joefitz84 says:

    For his dead homies?

  56. Joe Leydon says:

    Well, I think this particular homie is in the slammer. But I didn’t feel it was place to ask.

  57. VGM says:

    “I don

  58. Joe Leydon says:

    VGM: Close.

  59. VGM says:

    Joe: lol
    Does it make me old that I know that Frank Sinatra and the guy who did the Mr. Coffee commercials are not the same person, or does that make me astute and culturally aware?

  60. Joe Leydon says:

    Considering that my son did not know then, and I suspect does not know now, who Frank Sinatra OR Joe DiMaggio might be, I’d say you fall into the astute category.

  61. Lota says:

    No, I would say VGM that it makes you ‘Italian’.
    I used to wonder who is this LIFE SIZE guy on all these restaurant walls of places we used to eat for free in (we weren’t allowed to pay…and no my papa wasn’t a gangster) when i was a youngster. There were/are alot of professional athletes in my family. The only group of people that the Sicilians like better than athletes are entertainers (hooray for Hollywood).
    “Yo That’s Frankie”.
    Even the Jewish and Greek guys had pictures of Frankie on the walls of their restaurants and shops. Maybe as a symbol that they paid their protection “dues” or else they were members of the Outfit which was very equal opportunity in my hood. The Jewish guy who made some shirts for my dad kept his Frankie Picture where you could see it from the street.
    Joe if Dave has asked you to call him Hustla, then he should skip the writing gig and become a Producer. A natural continuum….hustla–>Producer–>hustla. It’s just like Boxing, but no REFEREE.

  62. JW says:

    D-Po pours a Fo’ty for all the films he love that did not receive Oscar nominations.
    That brother has poured a lot of fo’ties.

  63. Panda Bear says:

    Is Ice Cube/Doughboy running this blog, yo?

  64. VGM says:

    Joe: If you’d said it made me old I’d have been very sad. Monday’s my birthday and that’s making me feel plenty old as it is. So even if you were just being nice, thanks!
    “No, I would say VGM that it makes you ‘Italian’.” Actually, Lota, I’ve been mistaken for Italian, so maybe you’re right.

  65. Lota says:

    you’re not old until they stop carding you in Albertsons VGM. I still get carded. yay.
    I have a deadline so I can no longer partake in the parading of D-Po down the Street of Shame. But say hi to the ‘Cube when you see him Dave, and Tell Q-Tip I miss the Tribe.
    (If D-Po’s Life Coach sees these entries=BIG ASS TROUBLE).

  66. Joe Leydon says:

    Look, I’m just 52 — but already, I get asked by youngsters at cash registers in restaurants, or at megaplex box-offices: Senior discount, sir? And you know what? Every damn time, I say YES! Because, screw ’em, I’m not so proud that I won’t take the price cut.

  67. VGM says:

    “you’re not old until they stop carding you in Albertsons VGM. I still get carded. yay.” Lota, I hate to ruin my image as culturally aware, but do you mean the grocery store? Sorry, the thought of getting carded at the grocery store just seems odd to me. In my part of the world, grocery stores don’t sell alcohol.
    Joe: I’ve got two words for you–“student ID.” Man, that thing is still saving me bucks.

  68. jeffmcm says:

    They sell booze of all kinds in grocery stores in Los Angeles. Dunno where Lota lives.

  69. Panda Bear says:

    Malt liquor = Yuck.

  70. KamikazeCamel says:

    Vodka all the way…

  71. JW says:

    Get my ass a Wild Cherry Pepsi!
    (this post sponsored by Pepsi. Who would like to remind you that Coke Zero might be the dumbest beverage name ever conceived. That we had no part in ourselves. What moroons. But anyway, Drink Pepsi, and enjoy all other fine Tri-Con products, YO!)

  72. anonymous says:

    I think we have now seen in the last few days that certain people, having nothing mean that they can get away with saying, have had very little to say at all.

  73. bicycle bob says:

    whiskey is the only drink that matters.

  74. LesterFreed says:

    Nothing beats a cold Colt 45 on a hot summer day. Like Billy Dee was fond of. Now he was damn cool.

  75. Bruce says:

    I really wish i could take a sip of the cough medicine but that train left the station years ago for things left better unsaid.

  76. David Poland says:

    Wars come and go, but my soldiers stay eternal.

  77. Lota says:

    Tupac of the Blogs? with a happier end i hope
    The beat is over and so is the night
    The sun is risen and the shine is bright
    We all say peace and go our separate ways
    Youth is fading as we gain in days (TCQ)
    [and stay off the Cisco…and Malt liquor]

  78. Joe Leydon says:

    “You ever feel like your luck’s running out? Lately I feel like my luck’s been running out.”
    — Tupac Shakur, “Gridlock’d” (1997)

  79. LesterFreed says:

    I dig the hip hop section here. Everyone in here needs the flava.

  80. Stella's Boy says:

    I remember kind of liking Gridlock’d when it came out.

  81. JAWright says:

    Everyone should relax. The interesting part is that this world has actually become less communicative once the internet came to the masses. They get angry at their computers and write words to people they’ve never met. Before you right, just take a deep breath – it’s not really that serious. šŸ™‚
    http://undiscoveredactor.blogspot.com/
    Thanks,
    J Wright

  82. Lota says:

    funny that Dave gets a spam message on a thread about stop the vicious arguing yo! and it’s still going on.
    Superfly’s at Sundance so anything can happen.

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” ā€” some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it ā€” I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury ā€” he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” ā€” and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging ā€” I was with her at that moment ā€” she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy namedā€”” “Yeah, sure ā€” you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that Iā€™m on the phone with you now, after all thatā€™s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didnā€™t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. Thereā€™s not a case of that. He wasnā€™t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had ā€” if that were what the accusation involved ā€” the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. Iā€™m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, ā€œYou know, itā€™s not this, itā€™s thatā€? Because ā€” let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. TimesĀ piece, thatā€™s what it lacked. Thatā€™s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon