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By David Poland poland@moviecitynews.com

People Seem To Want To Talk About…

Jamie Foxx.
Is he really upset about being second banana on Miami Vice?
Has anyone figred out that he is really the fifth lead in Stealth, playing “The Funny Black Guy,” much as Jessica Biel (second lead) is playing “The Girl Whose Breasts & Buttocks Require A Completely Illogical And Superfluous Vacation Sequence In Thailand”?
Did Jamie foxx ad lib much in Collateral?

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32 Responses to “People Seem To Want To Talk About…”

  1. Geoff says:

    Seeing how Michael Mann pretty much let him steal the show from Tom Cruise in Collateral and from Will Smith in Ali, I would highly doubt that he is worried about being upstaged by Colin Farrell. I would think that at this point, working with Mann again, that Foxx knows he’s in good hands.
    As for Stealth, what people are forgetting is that he took the role on, before being cast in Collateral or Ray. And it sure looks like he’s getting more prominent placement in the ad campaign over Josh Lucas.

  2. Joe E says:

    From September of last year until March of this year, I’ll bet not a day went by when Jamie Foxx was told he was the greatest thing since slice bread and that he perfectly embodied a legend on screen. Every single day a camera was shoved in his face and he was told how perfect a guy he is.
    That kind of thing gets to your head after awhile. It’s happened before.
    The PLANE is the most visible thing when it comes to Stealth promos, not the actors. Is that not just the wierdest looking poster you’ve seen? what the hell are you looking at? is that supposed to get us excited?

  3. teambanzai says:

    The one feeling I can’t get awayfrom when I seen the previews for Stealth is that continuing the cliche bandwagon Jamie Fox’s character will bite it. Not a spoiler unless I’m right but With every other cliche the film seems to have it would figure.

  4. Panda Bear says:

    Stealth looks like a good movie when you’re drunk at 1am on a Tuesday and you catch it on HBO.

  5. Angelus21 says:

    There is talk of bad blood on the set between Mann and Foxx. It’s not like they’re new to each other but maybe Jamie’s ego is now sky high.

  6. joefitz84 says:

    Jamie is living the dream here. But its not translating into the paychecks he wants or he thinks he should get as an Oscar winner. Remember this guys career highlight was Bait. Just kidding but it was his second career highlight.

  7. Panda Bear says:

    Don’t knock Bait. He needed the dough. You see the lifestyle he lives????
    Seriously.

  8. LesterFreed says:

    Anyone takes some cheap shots at Booty Call and they have to deal with me. We all knew Jamie was going to win an Oscar after In Living Color. In Living Color 1 win. SNL. Zero.

  9. KamikazeCamel says:

    FUCK
    Sorry, hearing about Jamie Foxx makes me want to swear and hit people with objects.
    God, I hate him. HATE HIM. I wish he’d just disappear and nobody would ever mention him ever again.
    LOATHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And ‘Ray’ was really bad.
    Mann has every right to wanna throw him in the river, hell, I’d do it myself if I could get away with it. EVIL CRETEN.

  10. KamikazeCamel says:

    Having said that, I might go and watch “Collateral”. The only movie of his I like and like him in. Though I do NOT want to get into the debate about him being nominated for Best Supporting Actor for it. That was even sillier than Keisha Castle Hughes’ Supporting Actress bid.

  11. gatorade says:

    Geez, once David Poland has found a punching bag, he doesn’t easily let it go. First we get endless articles “debunking” the slump. Which made a nice change from endless articles change from endless articles about “journalistic ethics” and bashing the New York Times.
    Now Jamie Foxx seems to be his new whipping boy.
    I thought Poland’s reporting on Foxx’s over-the-top negotiations for Dreamgirls had some validity and legitimacy to it.
    But what is the point of this? It seems like a gratuitous attempt to follow up on the “Jamie Foxx:Primadonna” angle Poland worked on the Dreamgirls story, except this time, there’s no real weight behind it. Third hand gossip fom Page 6 from about Foxx being “upset” at being second banana in Miami Vice does not merit coverage. It’s National Enquirer material. And taking a swipe at his cliched supporting role in a dumb blockbuster, made BEFORE he won an Oscar and had any cache as an actor. Classy.

  12. Geoff says:

    I’m willing to give Jamie Foxx the benefit of the doubt. If he had the choice, now, I would doubt that he would choose to play third lead in a Rob Cohen extravaganza. Yeah, maybe we all got a little sick of him a few months ago, but it wasn’t completely his fault, the media went overboard as usual.
    But you look at his choices, Dreamgirls, more Michael Mann, and the next Sam Mendes film. I think he’s going to have a good career.

  13. bicycle bob says:

    camel are u a racist? u seem to have no reason to hate foxx besides the color of his skin. thats low.

  14. Terence D says:

    When you hear this type of prima donna story once you overlook it. But a few times? I don’t really care about it as long as he delivers like last year. But Stealth looks like a major bomb.

  15. Bruce says:

    Give Tom Cruise credit for giving Foxx the room to steal the movie. An unsure and ego filled star would have not let him be himself and make that movie better. He is the underrated performer of the two.

  16. Lota says:

    Gatorade,
    Dave started a thread on Jamie FOxx since peeps were discussing his movies etc on the WW/MJ thread and seemed to want to talk about Jamie Foxx. [see WW/MJ]
    From Dave’s reply on that thread it is clear he has no plans to make Jamie Foxx the new whipping boy.
    Bob just because KC says he doesn’t like Foxx doesn’t make him a racist. many actors get annoying when they win an award or get sudden massive overkill press attention.
    I don’t feel very strongly about Foxx either way except Ray was overrated compared to Collateral which was shunned by Oscar.

  17. BluStealer says:

    Foxx wasn’t shunned for his role in Collateral. He was nominated. Paul Giammati was shunned.

  18. Terence D says:

    You wouldn’t hear Paul Giamatti bitching about his ten million dollar paycheck and spring/summer in Miami, do you? Too bad he wasn’t cast as Tubbs. Thats what they call out of the box casting.

  19. Josh says:

    Ray stunk. He was the only good thing in that piece. In 20 years we will be saying DiCaprio should have taken home the gold for Aviator.

  20. Lota says:

    I said Collateral was shunned Blustealer.
    Clearly Foxx wasn’t shunned and won for the wrong movie IMUHO.

  21. Josh says:

    He should have won it for Collateral and not Ray. Ray was self indulgent.

  22. Joe E says:

    Ray sucked. The structure didn’t make much sense and the ending seemed so tacked on. But the performances by Sharon Warren and Regina King were phenomenal.
    Foxx has got Jarhead this winter, then Miami Vice then the Dream Girl musical. Let’s see what happens to him.

  23. LesterFreed says:

    Why the Foxx hate? The guy just won an Oscar and was nominated for another one. So hes an ass off camera. Who cares as long as we get Ray type stuff from him?

  24. bicycle bob says:

    i just see him as a natural second banana. which is what he’ll be in miami vice. they did go too young casting farrel. they needed someone more grizzled. brad pitt would have been perfect. not that hes grizzled but hes older.

  25. Bruce says:

    I don’t think Farrel will be overmatched here. Michael Mann usually gets great performances from his actors. He wouldn’t have casted him without being sure.

  26. David Poland says:

    My coverage of the Foxx negotiations on Dreamgirls was 100% accurate.
    Perhaps you should ask yourself why Page Six didn’t pick that up… and whether it is in Jamie’s management’s interest to float the idea that he needs more love on Vice on those august pages as well.
    I have no interest in whipping Jamie Foxx. He is a talented guy. I don’t really care much what he does off screen and only wrote about the contract negotiations because it was extremely bad behavior on the business side.
    I expect him to do well in Jarhead and he could get another Oscar nomination for Dreamgirls, now that they are on board.
    I think this duo is rather perfect for Miami Vice. And yes, the Stealth role is probably the last “funny negro” role that Foxx will be playing for a long while.
    On the financial side, I don’t see how he has earned the $10 million plateau as far as being a box office draw. But Vice will likely up that by another $5 million in a hurry. And Dreamgirls, which he is doing for less, will also make him worth more.
    P.S. Thanks for the accurate explanation, Lota.

  27. bicycle bob says:

    how is he getting over 10 mill for any role? what movie has he done where its made money? ray did well. anything else? when stealth bombs is it his fault?

  28. LesterFreed says:

    dreamgirls will be a huge hit. vice a huge hit. he’ll be making 15 mill a movie easy. i hope he keeps up this good streak he has going for himself.

  29. LesterFreed says:

    But what agent told him to take that Stealth role? I hope it was before Ray was in production.

  30. joefitz84 says:

    He might not be worth 10 now. But he will soon enough. He does have the chops and the star power.

  31. KamikazeCamel says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I am very interested in Dreamgirls and I hope Miami Vice is good but I just really don’t like Jamie Foxx. He’s arrogant, egotisticle, overbearing, overpraised, annoying and as an actor I don’t see that much in him.
    Now, I really disliked “Ray” so the fact that he won everything for it was just excruciating. What was SO great about impersonating someone? Hey look, he walks like Ray Charles GIVE HIM AN OSCAR! He sounds like him too GIVE HIM THE SAG AWARD! He mimed to Ray Charles songs GIVE HIM THE GOLDEN GLOBE! Ugh… and then he went along and got nominated for Best SUPPORTING Actor for Collateral! If anything he should’ve been nommed for Best Actor for Collateral.
    And the stuff he did at the awards shows was so annoying. He didn’t just do it at ONE awards show, or even two. He did it at every single one! SHUT UP!
    And why does he think he’s so great. Was it all those years of slumming it in movies like Bait and Breakin’ All the Rules that makes him think he’s earned it or something. The only movie of which he was a predominant part of publicity that actually was successful was Ray and that was all because of the awards. And then to think that people like Jim Carrey and Jeff Bridges got ignored is just sad.
    I can see how people like him though! I just personally really don’t! And it’s not because I’m racist. Do all the people here who hate Jennifer Lopez hate her because she’s hispanic? I’m assuming that’s a resounding NO.
    So basically, shut up Bob.
    Sorry, but that was my venting.

  32. Panda Bear says:

    Hey Camel,
    Is it your goal to post under EVERY thread here?

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