I’d be considering suing Disney for their Primetime Live piece on Timothy Treadwell, who is the subject of Grizzly Man.
They interviewed the same people and used much of the footage that Herzog uses. Of course, the experience was inferior… but some people may skip the movie because of it and this sucks.
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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
Yeah, it sucks, but there are no legitimate grounds that I can see for any lawsuit.
No, Chester… you are right. There are no grounds at all for a lawsuit. And Herzog participated in the piece…
So… do you get the hyperbolic idea?
That was supposed to be understood as hyperbole? OK … whatever … sure … if you say so …
Chester, seriously, give it a rest.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing as I was watching the show –well, not the suing, but just how odd it was for them to essentially provide the same information as Herzog’s movie in a different way–the only thing is that I disagree about the experience being inferior. I honestly wasn’t that crazy about Grizzly Man since the whole thing was so biased by Herzog’s ever-present narrative, so in that regard, I liked the Primetime LIve special better. Still, it seemed odd that they would do this half hour, showing some of the same footage, interviewing the same people and providing most of the pertinent information and then add the footnote…”Oh, you can go see the movie tomorrow if you want to pay 10 bucks for the same stuff we just told you.”
Well, at least Lions Gate has Undiscovered to make up for it (snicker)
ok chester we all get it. u hate dave. loud and clear. now we don’t care and ur trying to ruin the board isn’t going to work.
DP say the sky is blue. I’m sure Chester can come up with a 6 paragraph rant saying you are immature and wrong.
I guess some people live in the woods and never heard the term hyperbole before. They’re are always a few of them everywhere. Usually normal people avoid them though.
Not to stop all the rips on Chester, but I didn’t know this was hyperbole, either (sometimes it’s hard to tell tones in written words).
I only saw the ads for the Primetime piece, but I thought, “Wow, this really steals the thunder of the movie.”
Don’t stop them. They’re just getting good.
I saw the movie yesterday and loved it. He was a fascinating guy. Highly recommended to those who haven’t seen it.
Can’t see the thunder being ripped apart if the movie is good. It usually adds to it.
Maybe… they really told a lot of the story with a lot of the same people… one segment would have been helpful… three seemed abusive.
did anyone see the bears at Sunset and Crescent Heights this am? they were out there waving their paws to the commuters…you gotta love LA and the land of marketing/promotion…this documentary sounds awesome to me…but Herzog is some sort of mad-genius so i expect nothing less than great stuff from him at this point.