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By David Poland poland@moviecitynews.com

You Guys Tell Me…

When The New York Times runs a feature about a remake of The Devil & Miss Jones, it makes me deeply sad.
It is so normal to see pornography and smirky references to sex on the web. And I think a story on the pornography business is 100% legit… it is big, big, business.
But 298 words is an EW News & Notes piece… it is not news… and the piece seems to focus on mundane sensationalism, like “…There’s so much hair everywhere.”
Can you hear the smirk in the word processor here? “Ms. Spelvin, 69, said she was still surprised that she, a small-breasted brunette, got the starring role.”
Is it news that Vivid claims they will spend $250,000 on this film? (Pure bullshit there.) Or that they got a billboard in Times Square?
Will this bit of oral, anal and other varieties of sex be any different than other porn films, other than that it gets a marketing push in the New York Times?
Is this The Times’ way of thumbing its gray nose at he Bush Administration?
Honestly… how far is The New York Times from covering Lindsay Lohan’s breasts on a daily basis?
Has Tom Grunick gone to work for The New York Times?
Some of you will think I am overreacting to this… and no one story is that important… unless it is symbolic of something bigger… and to me, this is one step away from a paper that I really care about and read every single day streaming freeway car chases on their website because “you gotte give the audience what they want.”

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16 Responses to “You Guys Tell Me…”

  1. Martin says:

    Well they do need to stay competitive with The Post.

  2. JeffreyEaster says:

    It is just another example of the “dumbing down of America.” It is soon to be followed by the Washington Post and the WSJ doing articles on the financial vialbility of Jessica Simpson’s ass.

  3. oldman says:

    “Honestly… How far is The NYTimes from covering L Lohan’s breasts on a daily basis?”
    In the name of ART!; and, to save the NYTimes integrity and lower DP’s meds; I hereby volenteer to cover L Lohan’s breasts on a daily basis. Ahhhhh….

  4. Joe Leydon says:

    This will sound like a joke, but I’m serious: How many people on this blog have actually seen “Devil in Miss Jones”? I don’t mean: How many people have ever heard of it? I don’t mean: How many have ever seen clips and/or photos from it? I mean: How many have actually seen the film, either in a theater or on home video?
    Because if you have seen it, you may wonder the same thing I’m wondering: Would they dare use the same ending in a remake? Because… well, talk about something that can splash icy cold water on your sex fantasies!

  5. jeffrey boam's doctor says:

    I saw it on 16mm when I was 13 in the basement of a friends house. Twas a double feature with DDD. The film had a profound effect on me and I still vividly remember the ending as much as the oft heralded shock opening. Of course in recent times DIMJ Part 3 gets a lot more press due to many reasons – most unable to be mentioned here. A mighty piece of cinema either way, joining the Mitchell’s GREEN DOOR and Poole’s BOYS as pornographic masterpieces. I don’t think the Vivid budget of $250k is total bullshit by any means… the budgets on some of these extravaganzas have been creeping up. Want a list of ones made for over $250k Dave? – for research only of course.

  6. jeffmcm says:

    These days a $250k budget merely means that you’re shooting on film and not on video, and still with a schedule that’s merely short and not insane.

  7. Rory says:

    Seldom, if ever, does one get to say this to a fellow man. So let me be blunt; Dave, you dont know jack and shit about the porn industry. The industry that pulls in billions a year with a better profit margin than a Hollywood Exec or a Bollywood Exec could dream of. 250,000 on a porn, for Vivid, not that much money being spent at all. It’s VIVID! VIVID! I really do know too much random knowledge. If knowing about the financial side of the porn industry.

  8. Lota says:

    “I really do know too much random knowledge.” Rory doth protest too much for it to be Random.
    So what’s your name in the Trade Rory? “The Hedgehog”? “The Cannon”? “Tiny”? heh heh.
    Wait, please don’t really tell. I was just kidding.
    There was a funny article in one of the UK dailies…The Guardian…or maybe the Independent where they said you could “make” your own porn name by taking the name of your first pet (your first name) and putting it with the name of your first car/motorcycle model (your last name).
    So my name would be Daisy Dominator. Yee-hah!

  9. WWF says:

    Funny that you’re “saddened” by NYT covering porn. I was just thinking it seems like every time I check MCN there’s some uncomfortable-making sexual comment about teenage girls on it.

  10. moviefreek says:

    Jeez, Poland, relax. First of all, the NYT story is not a feature. it’s two freaking paragraphs. second, get off your high horse already. go to the front page of MCN right now and there are links for various film-related stories that use the words “orgasm”, “penis”, “babe” and “masturbating.” There is also an editorial comment wondering what Linda Carter’s 14 year-old daughter looks like. Can you BE any bigger of a hypocrite?

  11. Martin says:

    To say that this sort of nonsense from the Times is OK because movie websites like MCN also do it is INSANE. They shouldn’t have the same standards for content. Clearly, the “Paper of Record” is inching it’s way towards the toilet paper dispenser.

  12. moviefreek says:

    “To say that this sort of nonsense from the Times is OK because movie websites like MCN also do it is INSANE.”
    I never said that. I was just pointing out Poland’s hypocrisy.
    “They shouldn’t have the same standards for content.”
    Why not? If you’re gonna throw stones…..

  13. Joe Leydon says:

    I wonder what Dr. Freud would make of David’s obsessive love-hate relationship with the NYT? So he is “saddened” that the Times has sunk to the level of… MCN. Does that not speak of a certain — gee, I dunno, self-hatred?
    That’s OK, David: We love you anyway. So go ahead and write another piece about hot actresses you’d like to breed with. Let the good times (and the Colt 45) flow.

  14. Mason says:

    Hilarious. The guy who’s obsessed with teenage girls is criticizing the Times for a one page story on the porn industry during a slow news week. Unbelievable.

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