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By Ray Pride Pride@moviecitynews.com

Saw seen: Forbes laps at Lions Gate

As a third Saw is foreseen, Forbes’ Peter Kafka enters Jon Feltheimer’s den: “No one likes a loser. But in Hollywood, even some of the winners don’t get much love. Just ask the folks at Lions Gate Entertainment, the small movie company with one of the year’s big hits—Saw II [which has] pulled in $80 million since it opened Halloween weekend…. Add that to the $100 million box-office take, and a slew of DVD sales from the original released last year, and Lions Gate has a franchise its bigger competitors would kill—or maim, slash, torture—for. [Yet] Hollywood’s chattering classes instead argue—sotto voce—that the success of the Saw movies just makes Lions Gate more likely to try to sell itself… None of this is news to Lions Gate [CEO] … Feltheimer, who is used to hearing that his company is for sale. But it’s not, he insists. “People who tend to put themselves up for sale tend to do the opposite of what we’re doing,” he argues…. If Lions Gate were dressing itself up for a sale, it would logically be ratcheting down its movie-making business and focusing on its catalog of 6,200 films and 1,800 television episodes… Making new movies, even the small-budget ones that Lions Gate specializes in, is inherently risky.” [More of the Lions Gate line at the link.]

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon