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What Could Be More Depressing…

… than discussing who is getting fired at ParaDream?
As for Oscar, I feel like a 6-year-old who is crashing after eating too much Halloween candy.
Talk amongst yourselves… please be nice.

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57 Responses to “What Could Be More Depressing…”

  1. Josh says:

    At least we got “Big Momma’s House 2” to cure our ills.

  2. waterbucket says:

    I feel happy because Brokeback Mountain is going to WIN!!!
    Hopefully, this weekend’s box office will be good. There’s already a minor bump due to the nominations.
    Monday: $620,000
    Tuesday: $790,000
    Wednesday: $830,000

  3. Amer says:

    I’m just shocked at the cold-blooded manner in which Brad Grey “absorbed” DW into Paramount. The multitude of people getting fired amidst the flowery emails by Grey to his company (i.e. “We are delighted at…” “We are embarking on a groundbreaking venture..” blah blah blah) is very sad.
    This isn’t Paramount buying DW here. This is DW buying Paramount.
    Absolutely crazy.

  4. Lynn says:

    I see the second Narnia is officially happening for a late 2007 release. It’s the only other book with all four kids, and it has some structural weirdness that’s going to make it more challenging to adapt into an interesting movie.
    I imagine they’ll go with another young unknown to play Caspian, which is probably a good call.

  5. Wrecktum says:

    Prince Caspian is unfilmable as is. Hopefully by rejiggering the plot it’ll give the story a little more “oomph.” Caspian was the least memorable of the books when I read them as a kid.
    As for Paramount: Grey is a devil. A man with no studio experience comes in and completely casts aside people who have been loyal and good employees for decades. I’ve never seen anything like it.

  6. Amer says:

    Waterbucket
    Why do I have the distinct feeling that CRASH is going to ruin BROKEBACK’S chances? MUNICH is irrelevant in the race, as are CAPOTE and GOOD NIGHT. So it’s basically a CRASH vs BROKEBACK at the Academy Awards.
    Now there was that LA Weekly article about Academy Members not seeing BROKBACK screeners. i don’t know the validity of that. But for some reason I’m getting a feeling of CRASH ruining its chances.
    I saw CRASH in November 2003 at the AFM in Santa Monica – 11 am almost empty show. Thought it was pretentious, a bit too Michael Mann without the gravitas; heavy-handed and ended with a comical car crash between stereotypical ethnic groups, like something out of an Inspector Clouseau flick. I did however think Michael Pena as the locksmith was great; his whole “invisible cloak” scene with his daughter was really something. And Matt Dillon was amazing. But as a film, it deserves not to be nominated as Best Picture.

  7. joefitz84 says:

    I’m distressed for Waterbucket. If BBM loses on Oscar night I don’t want to know what he’ll do. How empty will he feel???

  8. Hopscotch says:

    Yeah and maybe Mystic River will take down Return of the King. Maybe Pulp Fiction will stop Forrest Gump. Maybe Moulin Rouge will tap dance over A Beautiful Mind… nope. Didn’t happen, won’t happen this year. Brokeback’s got it.

  9. waterbucket says:

    If Brokeback loses to Crash (Oscar god forbids!), I’ll be putting the following names on a list:
    Dave Poland, Paul Haggis, the cast of Crash, the Academy’s president, Ashlee Simpson (just cuz).
    And I’m gonna go Uma Thurman on all of their a__es.

  10. Sanchez says:

    I like your confidence Scotch.
    Spielberg said the same thing about Private Ryan. Scorcese about Raging Bull. Stone about Born on the 4th.
    Yea, they were all in the bag too.

  11. Amer says:

    Don’t be surprised if Ang Lee winds Best Director and CRASH wins Best Picture. It’s that kind of a year.
    So many liberal/progressive themed movies out there, even Stanley Kramer would have had a tough time deciding what he’d go for.

  12. joefitz84 says:

    Now what did Ashlee ever do to you, Bucket, besides giving you hour upon hour of great listening pleasure????
    Ok. Take her out.

  13. waterbucket says:

    joefitz, she made me want to lala.

  14. Amer says:

    Back to the Brad Grey debacle.
    Paramount was GODFATHER, CHINATOWN, LOVE STORY, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, the STAR TREK flicks etc etc.
    Dreamworks is SHREK, THE PRINCE OF EGYPE, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, GLADIATOR and THE ISLAND.
    How can a legendary studio like Paramount and its staff get treated like that? And what happens to Gail Berman? She gets replaced by Jeffrey Katzenberg – he goes back to where he started from? This is bizarre.
    I wonder how the new Dreamworks, uhm I mean the new Paramount going is going to revitalize once thriving franchises like STAR TREK and going to build on its 70s and 80s legacy.
    Poland was right. The new Paramount gets nothing from the DW deal, only hearteache – the DW film library is going to be sold supposedly to George Soros anyway – what the hell does Paramount benefit from all this and *why* is Brad Grey so intent on bending over backwards to DW and its former employees and managers?

  15. Bruce says:

    How could they not get the DW library? As little as it is, it is still worth a ton.

  16. Crow T Robot says:

    It is a very respectable library. Starting with Dreamworks’ first title 9 years back, THE PEACEMAKER, with b-listers Nicole “Cruise” Kidman and George “Dr. Ross” Clooney.
    Say, whatever happened to those two?

  17. jeffmcm says:

    Yeah, I still don’t understand why Paramount wouldn’t retain the Dreamworks library. Is it not one of the key assets?
    In other news, if it’s true that Andrew Adamson is getting a Peter Jackson-esque eight-figure deal to direct PRINCE CASPIAN…he’s the luckiest bastard in Hollywood. Because LWW could have been just as successful with any of a dozen other directors.

  18. Crow T Robot says:

    Andrew Adamson is the new luckiest New Zealand director in the world.
    Unluckiest? Uh, Lee Tamahori.
    (according to http://www.defamer.com anyway)

  19. waterbucket says:

    I don’t get any of these studio stuffs. Maybe this will cheer myself and some people up:
    http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/bb3.jpg

  20. PandaBear says:

    Paramount was legendary back in the ’70’s. They’ve been struggling ever since.
    They needed a change. Whether this helps, I don’t have a clue.

  21. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    Adamson is not directing CASPIAN, try co-writer and producer. And Tamahori is not the unluckiest – he’s worth a mint, got a hot chickadee and knows there’s more to life than film. If you want unlucky NZ directors try Vincent Ward whose RIVER QUEEN may see him directing beer commercials again.

  22. Josh says:

    Tamahori isn’t crying over his life.

  23. Wrecktum says:

    Adamson is not directing CASPIAN. Try co-writer, producer and director. Please read the entire press release before you comment.

  24. Lynn says:

    “Adamson is not directing CASPIAN, try co-writer and producer.”
    Well, okay then. My earlier comment was based on this:
    LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – A sequel to the wildly successful movie “The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe” is set to begin production later this year, with Andrew Adamson returning as director.

  25. Wrecktum says:

    ^ I meant to say he IS directing Caspian.

  26. Lynn says:

    “Adamson is not directing CASPIAN. Try co-writer, producer and director. Please read the entire press release before you comment.”
    Okay, now I’m *really* confused… not directing… but director?
    Also from the same article, which is headlined “Director, cast returning for ‘Narnia’ sequel” — “About Adamson returning, Granat added, “To me, the most exciting aspect of all of this is that there is so much that Andrew wanted to express and do in the first film, and now he’ll have a chance to.””
    Also: “There is a synergy of sorts in having Adamson direct the “Narnia” movies as the books’ lore describe the saviors of the land as the sons of Adam.”
    (And sheesh, if I’m wrong, I’m wrong… no need to be snotty about it. My info was from THR, it’s not like I made it up.)

  27. Lynn says:

    “I meant to say he IS directing Caspian.”
    :: sigh ::
    Sorry, then. I thought you were responding to me.

  28. Wrecktum says:

    No, I was responding to Jeffrey Boam’s Doctor’s uncalled for snotty comment.
    A reminder about Paramount: not only were they the hot studio of the early 70s (the Evans years) but they were arguably the hottest studio throughout the ’80s. They released Top Gun, the Star Trek Films, the Indiana Jones trilogy, Flashdance, Bevery Hills Cop, 48 Hours, Terms of Endearment, An Officer and a Gentleman. And Crocodile Dundee, too!

  29. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    Uncalled for snotty comment? I simply corrected an error from Jeffs post. Nothing snotty about it.
    Who are you – SuperBigNosy Man? or MindYourOwnDamnBusiness Man?

  30. Fades To Black says:

    So, is he directing it or not? Because now I’m super confused.

  31. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    Wrectum comments “Please read the entire press release before you comment.”
    Now thats a snotty comment you ignoramus.

  32. Wrecktum says:

    Adamson is directing Narnia, so you’re not only rude, but you’re wrong.
    What’s with the insults, little man?

  33. Chucky in Jersey says:

    Par is selling off the live action part of the DreamWorks library. DreamWorks Animation (“Shrek” et al) stays with Par.

  34. palmtree says:

    Not only is Adamson directing the Narnia sequel, he’s getting a cut of that film’s grosses as well. It was reported by Variety.

  35. Martin S says:

    Someone tell me this isn’t a promotion for Snider…she barely deserves to keep a job, let alone a promotion…

  36. ArchiveGuy says:

    Poor Dave, still hanging his dreams on some Byzantine Munich comeback scenario. Spielberg positioned right behind Ang? Only in your dreams. Heath Ledger running a distant 4th? Puh-leeze. Clooney not even remotely in the running for Screenplay? “Crash” is likely, but not a Lock. Sorry Senor Poland, but Actress is in more contention than Picture or Director are; mere wishing isn’t enough to make it otherwise.

  37. James Leer says:

    If you don’t think Tamahori’s crying today, you didn’t read that Defamer article.
    Are action directors who become transvestites the new black?

  38. waterbucket says:

    Here’s an interesting song that I just found on IMDb board. It’s called “Bill” by Peggy Scott Adams. Do you guys know this song?
    Here’s a part of it:
    …Listen, There are no words that can describe, what I felt inside
    When I found out the man I loved loved another guy
    We were at a party, Oh to have a little fun
    But when I looked around my-my man was missing
    I walked outside, I couldn’t believe my eyes
    He was in Bill’s arms breathin hard and french kissin
    I was ready for Mary, Susan, Helen and Jane
    When all the time it was Bill who was sleeping with my man
    Bill has been to my house a thousand times
    He and my man would go camping and fishing
    Oh I tell you it never crossed my mind
    Bill was a friend and he was God Uncle to my only son
    Now it looks Uncle Billy wants to be his step-mom …
    Just want to share. Now back to your discussion.

  39. jeffmcm says:

    If Johnny Cash had recorded this it could have been another “Boy Named Sue”.

  40. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

    The Tamahori story is quite possibly the funniest shit I’ve ever heard (not really, but it IS a riot). I mean, seriously… that’s bonkers. At least Wachowski isn’t prostituting himself of street corners! I spose that’s what he gets for directing that really bad Bond movie.
    With the Oscars, BP is indeed between BBM and Crash, but I just think BBM has too much going for it to NOT win. And it’s not like Crash has an advantage of having earned more money, cause as of, i dunno, sometime this week, Brokeback will officially be the highest grossing Best Picture nominee of the year. Strange, but indeed true.

  41. Amer says:

    Geez man. The Tamahori thing…
    But still not as shockingly bad as that shitty CGI parasailing shot in DIE ANOTHER DAY.

  42. Terence D says:

    What is a person like Tamahori doing? He has money. He can’t get a hotel room and order up an escort for this? Terrible.

  43. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

    hah, the opening scene of Die Another Day was just the tip of a very large iceberg of awfulness. My favourite bit of stupidity came when everyone is so casually dressed in an ice building (that was it wasn’t it? why did it melt if it wasn’t?)
    If the characters from “Once Were Warriors” could see Tamahori now… (er, i know they’re fictional but whatever)

  44. Cadavra says:

    Personally, I think Tamahori was just doing research for THE EDDIE MURPHY STORY!

  45. Rufus Masters says:

    Eddie wasn’t wearing womens clothes when he got picked up.
    He was just giving her a ride!

  46. Hopscotch says:

    Ah those New Zealanders can party. I’ve visited there once. An eleven year old New Zealander could out drink me. Those people know how to party.
    I know this is from an earlier post, but yeah I think Crash for Screenplay is not an all a lock. What also might give Clooney the upper angle is he’s available. Giamatti is doing a movie in Toronto.

  47. Crow T Robot says:

    Action directors are sickos man!
    Hopefully Jim Cameron’s long rumored gerbil feltching won’t make headlines until after Battle Angel or Avatar.

  48. Josh says:

    Gerbils? I thought that was Richard Gere’s thing???

  49. Amer says:

    any thread that starts off with ‘big mommas house 2’ brad grey and ‘crash’, moves on to tamahori’s drag queen arrest and culminates with gerbils is ‘A’ in my book.

  50. JBM... says:

    Syriana’s got a better chance now that it’s not competing against Brokeback or Munich. Does anyone know why it was moved from Adapted to Original?

  51. PandaBear says:

    They didn’t think it took enough from the source material to be Adapted.
    It’s not beating out “Crash”. That’s almost a lock right now.

  52. joefitz84 says:

    Good call, Amer.
    Variety is the spice of life.

  53. Cadavra says:

    “Eddie wasn’t wearing womens clothes when he got picked up. He was just giving her a ride!”
    Dude, it was a joke. Don’t overthink it!

  54. Sanchez says:

    New Zealand. Never been. After this I don’t know if I want to.

  55. grandcosmo says:

    If Tamahori had just done that on screen he would have probably snared an Oscar nomination this year.

  56. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

    hahah, so true grand.
    Crash is nowhere near a lock for Screenplay when against Good Night & Good Luck when the latter is written by George Clooney. Supporting Actor could still go anyway (Matt Dillon perhaps?!) so they may vote for Clooney in screenplay – plus, GN&GL is the more well-liked film.
    And, yes, the gerbil thing is indeed Richard Gere – they even mention it in the original “Scream”!

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