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Irony In The Water

I will get into the movie itself later this week – the movie is not as bad as some say… not as good as Night hoped – but two things did jump out at me.
1. The movie is co-financed by Legendary… so I guess Alan Horn didn’t believe in Night as much as Night thinks in the book.
2. There is an animated opening sequence, which really feels like they forced him to add it because test audiences couldn’t follow the complex and slowly developing fairy tale story. Why would you give away story points up front otherwise? It is done with style, but it seems completely the opposite of Shyamalan film thinking.

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22 Responses to “Irony In The Water”

  1. jeffmcm says:

    Since you seem constrained as to what you can review, how about this: what are its box-office prospects now that you’ve seen it?

  2. David Poland says:

    I am not constrained… I am just doing it on my schedule.

  3. EDouglas says:

    Legendary seems to be cofinancing a lot of WB’s recent movies including Superman Returns

  4. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

    Glad to see it’s not as bad as everybody thinks it will be. I’ve heard “maddeningly bizarre and fascinating” so that’s something.

  5. jeffmcm says:

    Super, there’s no review embargo.
    What are its box-office prospects now that you’ve seen it?

  6. ManWithNoName says:

    ^^^^ Super, jeff provided yet another example of that tone DP mentioned in the other thread.

  7. martin says:

    Jeff suffers from an untreated case of severe OCD.

  8. jeffmcm says:

    OCD?
    I’m trying to advance the conversation and I want to know, from someone who’s seen the movie, if it will sink or float.

  9. Jeremy Smith says:

    I’ve seen it, and I think whatever it does in the opening weekend will represent a huge percentage of its domestic total. Then again, I think the movie is a disaster (with redeeming facets, all of which are visual), and disagree wildly with DP on the book, so ignore at your leisure.

  10. jeffmcm says:

    That’s what I was looking for – I’m curious to know how the general public will react, is this going to be another The Village? Better or worse?

  11. Stella's Boy says:

    Another Village in terms of box office jeff? I think it’s going to do much worse than The Village at the BO? I don’t think it has any chance to hit $100 million. No box office star + mostly bad reviews + poor word of mouth + lots of competition (POTC2 still going strong, two new wide releases and a semi-wide release in Clerks II) = a decent opening and quick, hard fall. Lucky to reach $75 million domestic.

  12. qwiggles says:

    I think what we all really want to know is:
    How is Giamatti’s hair?

  13. David Poland says:

    What’s your take on the book, Jeremy?

  14. David Poland says:

    And I think $80m is about the max for the film also… hard to imagine it not opening to the high 20s, at least.
    I wonder whether some audiences will click in. You could really feel the predetermination in the Arclight last night. There is a lot to criticize there, but it’s not “the worst film in the last decade” and for me, it was much more interesting than The Village, which was slower than this AND had an obvious, irritating, unexplored gimmick twist in Act 3.

  15. Wrecktum says:

    $26m opening, $73m total domestic.

  16. Jeremy Smith says:

    I thought the book was total hagiography. Very readable, yes, but also completely suspect.
    The screening last night bothers me the more I think about it. Feel free to hate the movie all you want, but please seethe quietly. Some people might actually be enjoying the film, and you’re ruining the experience for them.
    That said, the movie failed for me on a structural level first; the over-earnestness of all that followed was more of an annoyance than anything else. It’s too bad. I actually thought the finale was pretty brilliantly staged. Shyamalan has a great eye; I just don’t know if he’ll ever deign to collaborate with another writer.

  17. Jeremy Smith says:

    Box office: $20 million opening, sputters to $60 million domestic.

  18. Hopscotch says:

    It might be less that, I think. $15M opening, to $50M domestic. But who knows. The Village opened well but it had a good trailer and was marketed as a straight Horror movie. This has been a fairy tale/then mystery, suspense/now back to fairy tale.
    Maybe this is all a genius move by warners because until three weeks ago I had zero interest in seeing this, now I definitely want to see it to get my opinion.

  19. anghus says:

    i think you guys are seriously underestimating this film. despite what we net denziens know about Night and his lunacy, most mainstream viewers don’t know him other than ‘the guy who did Sixth Sense and Signs’.
    I got 35-39 million for the opening weekend.
    It might be less, you guys could very well be right, but i’m betting on the side of history.

  20. Telemachos says:

    qwiggles – LOL!
    So, with Nina Jacobson getting axed, Night has the first laugh. But I suspect she’ll have the last one. Dave, your review has been one of the kinder I’ve read…. though Harry Knowles’ is almost surreal in its bizarre effort to like the movie.

  21. Lota says:

    do you really think Water will open around 35-39 (anghus) or 26 (wrect) or high 20s(DPo)?!
    It just seems extraordinarily high. I almost wonder if it will get slacker-slapped by Clerks II even though CII is playing to less than 2000 theaters, Pirates is still hitting paydirt, and the youngsters will drag their parents (likely intended Water fodder) to Monster House.
    But then I don;t know much about money.

  22. Cadavra says:

    I’m guessing $18 mill for opening weekend. Not that anyone cares, of course. 🙂

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