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David Halbfinger took on the “trouble in movies” angle on the Lindsay Lohan arrest, getting a solid quote from Bernie Brillstein that, “I believe she
April 28, 2024
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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” ā some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it ā I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury ā he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” ā and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging ā I was with her at that moment ā she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy namedā” “Yeah, sure ā you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that Iām on the phone with you now, after all thatās been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didnāt seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. Thereās not a case of that. He wasnāt using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had ā if that were what the accusation involved ā the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. Iām not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, āYou know, itās not this, itās thatā? Because ā let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. TimesĀ piece, thatās what it lacked. Thatās what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
It’s really a shame, but it’s hard to feel bad for at this point. I actually caught the remake of The Parent Trap with her in it a couple weeks ago when I couldn’t sleep and I came to 2 conclusions: 1) Nancy Meyers makes too many sunny movies about the problems of fabulously wealthy people and 2) Lohan did a flawless (to my American ear) British accent in the flick. Where did that talent go?
David, “I Know Who Killed Me” isn’t from Screen Gems, it is from TriStar.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/iknowwhokilledme/
I think Lindsay Lohan is a good actress, so Robert Downey, Jr’s strategy would be fine for Lindsay Lohan.
Instead of wanting to become a top actress, she decided to become a celebrity.
What a waste. What a sad and tragic waste. I wish her well, but that won’t mean a damn thing until she starts to wish herself well.
IKWKM’s screen count was reduced initially because of Lohan’s previous behaviour. They do not see this as a positive in the game plan. LL’s stripping in this film makes Demi’s much heralded Striptease, look like the work clumsy steroid-abused aerobics monster.
It is incredibly sad, but at this point I’m beyond caring about her. I just want, as Dave suggests, to disappear for a year. Vanish. Disappear. Go away. She needs to be sent to jail first (because, seriously, if Paris Hilton gets 25 days or whatever for driving with a suspended licence…) and then when she’s released she needs to go away.
But, as you say, eventually Downey Jr has recouped his talent and can now make big budget movies so I hope she can return at some stage. She was actually very great in Freaky Friday and Mean Girls, plus The Parent Trap and A Prairie Home Companion.
Funny now Altman cast both Lohan and Tara Reid in two of his last few films.
It’s different for women. If Winona Ryder can’t really come back from the shoplifting incident, Lindsay won’t come back from this.
It really is different for women, Rob. They are not forgiven for transgressions as easily as men, especially when played out on tabloid pages. If she were a major star, one who could put people in seats, that might save her, but she isn’t, she doesn’t and she won’t.
Honestly, there have been many reports of LiLo’s unprofessionalism long before this latest meltdown. When you link that with her substance abuse and behavioral problems, I don’t think any major film would risk hiring her now.
I went to a preview screening for Sunshine (fanboy moment: AWESOME!) last night and the rep there was also handing out preview screenings for IKWKM (for this Thurs). He introduced it as “Lindsay Lohan’s last movie before she goes to jail.” It got a big laugh.
Back in the day, when Jodie Foster was arrested for being wasted on coke or whatever, there weren’t hundreds of paps waiting for a photo. There weren’t fifty million websites and tabloids updating the hungry beast on the latest lamb to slaughter. Can you imagine how many 19 years olds back in the day were doing coke and drinking? She’s getting caught doing it. People are acting like her career being over is the worst thing that could happen to her. It’s the best thing that could happen to her. She needs an education. A real education. Because listen, honey, if that’s all there is? It ain’t much. What she is not doing well is acting mature and playing the press. She’s too young and too dumb for that.
Is her career over? What career? She was a child star who got tits and suddenly everyone wants to fuck her. And she had a little bit of talent. She could have had it all I suppose. But what does that mean really? An Oscar? Meh. Get thee to a university. Grow your mind and soul and then see what’s left.
Scratch that. She’s 21, I forgot.
The doctor is in: It’s pretty cut and dry when all options disapprear. In jail, she’ll tap further into her addiction and anger. Isolation, and mixing with the population, will defeat her, so my Rx is to ship Dad into rehab with her and start dealing with her issues while she’s got experts around. I’d say study her craft when she’s better, if she’s still cute.
To quote Angie Dickinson in RIO BRAVO, you can’t help someone who don’t wanna be helped. That this happened days after leaving rehab pretty much proves she doesn’t wanna change. Unlike the other celebutards, she has real beauty and real talent, making the waste doubly tragic.
Actually, BiP, not true.
The whole paparrazi and tabloid thing is franzied right now, but it’s not like they never existed or weren’t terribly aggressive 30 years ago. Had Jodie Foster or anyone else gotten into car accidents and been arrested for multiple DUIs, you can be sure that she would be follwoed minute by minute. And unlike Lindsay, there wouldn’t be a much of other Hollywood himbos and bimbos feeling sorry for her in public, rationalizing her self-destructive behavior.
I thought the most interesting turn of the day was some tab idiot on CNN, I think, talking about how Jay Leno was so sad about it that he wouldn’t make fun of her. Then Leno opened the show, “We had Lindsay Lohan booked to be on the show, but it turned out she was already booked.” Following that was Rob Schneider in drag as Lindsay.
You know why Lindsay hasn’t gotten real help? All those fools saying, “All of her friends did this to her… how can she stay clean if she goes to parties and they hand her drinks!”
P.S. Marychan – Tri-Star is, essentially, dead again at Sony… responsibilites for releasing this last remaining films and any remnants has pretty much fallen to the Screen Gems team.
I agree that Lohan is the type who gets a pass while everyone around is blamed but I disagree that the times haven’t a-changed since Jodie Foster’s time on the slab. It’s become all-consuming now. The girls serve themselves up, true, but they are hungrily devoured nonetheless. No one even cares about what the true story is anymore. Tabloids were around but we didn’t have 24 our news cycles, we barely had cable, we didn’t have the internet. We had tabloids and never did the real newspapers write up what the tabs were saying. It was considered taboo. Now, CNN reports about Lindsay and Paris for public consumption. It’s all one big Page Six. It did not used to be.
When was Jodie Foster ‘wasted on coke’? I mean, obviously she hosted Saturday Night Live once in the 70s, but still I don’t see any evidence online that she was anywhere near as wild as these young ladies have been.
bipedalist, you said it right there “24 hour news cycle” (but i gave you the “h”).
not enough news to fill the cycle and the cycle must be filled. suddenly, anything and everything will do.
and it’s not just news. look at sportscenter on espn. “who’s now?!?” who cares? might as well just have the word “filler” flash across the screen.
Thanks for the ‘h’. Argh! My macbook pro’s keyboard is a bit fubar after a year of use. Can you be a “bit” fubar? Not sure. Like being almost pregnant.
Anyway, yeah. There is a constant need and it is starting to matter less and less what it’s filled with. I remember hearing about Jodie Foster’s wild days – coke, drinking, etc. Some of it was rumor – there was the occasional tabloid photo. She was booked on coke charges though. And anyway, that’s my point. How do you know she did any more or less than these dumb girls? We see what they do 24/7 and it’s blown way out of proportion anyway. Imagine if a camera had followed Jack Nicholson and Dennis Hopper around back in the ’70s? You hear stories from those days or the Fatty Arbuckle days. But they are just stories with a photo here or there. Not like now.
But Sasha, isn’t some of it the way the stars court the paparazzi now? Jack Nicholson in the 70’s mostly threw parties at his house when all that crazy stuff happened. Now these stars go to Hyde, Area, Les Deaux where they KNOW that the paparazzi is waiting outside. Can’t they go somewhere else or stay at home and do drugs? That’s the ultimate thing that Lohan should be sorry for, that she didn’t stay home or at least get a car service. The truth is, I don’t think anyone would care if she stayed at home and did drugs all day as long as she wasn’t harming anybody else. But when she drinks, does coke and then DRIVES, that’s really the ultimate problem.
I agree that things are tougher on certain celebs these days because of the amount of space that needs to be filled, but Lindsay Lohan has made like 9 movies in her career and those movies are not why she’s famous. She got her level of celebrity by going to the places she knew she’d be seen. And she was dumb enough to drive to those places with cocaine on her and in her. I don’t remember Jodie Foster going to rehab three times, either, but I think the Jodie Foster thing would have been a bigger deal if she had been at Studio 54 every night instead of going to Yale or wherever she went. So, I guess you’re right, education is important.
Yeah. I hear what you’re saying. But it’s a vicious circle isn’t it. It’s always comes down to, “it’s their fault; they court the media, they wanted fame.” Yes, all of that’s true. But we need to take a hard look at ourselves. There is a reason why the photos and stories sell.
David, thank you for you info.
But TriStar isn’t died yet. In Cannes 2007, Sony just acquired Al Pacino’s “88 Minutes” and assigned TriStar to release this movie theatrically in 2008. It would be a better treatment than dumping it to Samuel Goldwyn Films, though. (like what Sony did to “D.E.B.S” and “Southland Tales”)
There is a rumor that Sony did some reshoots for “88 Minutes” recently (including re-shooting the ending). Therefore, the US version of “88 Minutes” may be very different from the version that had already been released in other countries.
isn’t “88 minutes” already in the videostores here in the u.s.?
No.
Send a young alcoholic to a university? Brilliant! No chance of temptation there.
I’m surprised everyone is acting like this is new behavior–didn’t Disney refuse to have anything to do with her after HERBIE? Perhaps this, and the striptease in her new dud might encourage the House of Mouse to release the uncut version of HERBIE–the one where test audiences found Ms. Lohan to be “raunchy”, requiring loads of CGI to raise the neckline of her T-shirts and reduce her bounciness, as well as her cup-size.
There has always been 24 hour news EVENTS but they get little reportage in the USA (and countries that are in some sort of lockdown) and even less so in the last 5 years because of WHo owns the Media–they aren;t interested in News as in world news, criminal news or civic news. Only in Freak news.
Media is a product for business and Lindsay is better for making $$$ than what’s happening in ZImbabwe (and what is happening in Z right now will have World consequences but not what’s happening to LiLo) for those Media companies in the US right now. We don;t have much of a choice for news in the USA and we already rely too much on BBC international.
SHould we have Lilo everywhere replacing real news? Of course not, but it will take an Owner of a Media group to consciuosly cut out the tabloid fat and LEAVE it out and up to US magazine. Ted Turner entreated CNN to return to more newsworthy fare not long ago…albeit somewhat unsuccessfully thus far.
I go to wires to get information as I don;t think any US ‘paper’ right now can give me any info.
as for Lilo…no one will care soon enough especially since she’s eligible for room-and-board at the Big House for years. Hope the Lohan parentage haven’t spent all her cash yet. She needs good lawyers since she has no case for defense.
I think Jodie Foster was busted by a State trooper in an airport (when she was Lilo’s age) for possession and fined.
That may be true, but I think of JoFo had been arrested multiple times for DUIs, we’d have known about it.
As I said, they didn’t follow Jodie around. When Lilo was busted this last time someone called and tipped off the police. Jodie was living some wild times. She may not have been arrested for it but that doesn’t mean she wasn’t living the wild life.
it was the mom of lindsay’s asst. who quit that night that called the cops because she (the mom) was worried about lindsay
She was worried because Ms. Lohan was chasing them at a high rate of speed. When the cops finally caught up to this high-speed pursuit Firecrotch had pulled them over and was arguing with the mother and daughter in a parking lot.
So she was not just drunk and holding but belligerent, too.
It never ceases to amaze me why these extremely rich people can’t hire a freakin’ driver! They can drink more and snort more when they’re in the backseat than if they’re behind the wheel.
It’s a sad situation, and I feel sort of sorry for her. I feel sorry for her fans most of all though (of which I was). Those who still liked and defended her because we saw real talent. Yet now she’s just decided to be an ungrateful little drug addict instead. It’s a sad fate, but it’s the truth.
And while people can blame the papparazzi all they like, it’s not like Lindsay (and co) can say they didn’t expect them to be there whenever they fuck up. THey’ve been there for years and years and it amazes me that somehow Lindsay thought stalking her publicist’s mother while drunk and high on drugs was a good decision (GET A DRIVER!) She should know that if she does anything remotely bad that people will be there to report on it.
I don’t think that’s the whole story, that lindsay was chasing them. I’ve heard different accounts of what really happened. Someone was chasing them, they were being chased, she was chasing them. I’m not blaming the paparazzi or giving her a pass – I’m just saying that I think her behavior has been blown out of proportion, the same way the Nick and Jessica breakup was blown out. People don’t seem to care whether what they’re seeing is real or not – they believe the pictures.
Sorry… but catch me driving drunk once and I have earned my place. Catch me driving a second time and add coke and I am really asking for the law to dump me in jail.
I hate to get all 12 step, but in this case, as in many, sympathy = enabling. Beyond that, these girls beg for the attention and then complain when they get it while in embarrassing self-created situations?
Did you notice how Jodie Foster kinda disappeared from public view? Have you noticed how many stars aren’t being chased by paparazzi after they get loaded in public? Have you noticed how guys like Travolta and Cruise and Murphy are only in magazines when they are selling movies?
When things go wrong, tabs become a force of nature instead of a friend. But the idea that they can’t be stopped and are such relentless stalkers is not clear. Yes, the irritate people at home too often. All true. But aside from the knife thing, all of Lindsay’s crap has been in public and often, endangering others by her intoxicated driving.
No sympathy here, except for a human being who needs a firm hand (not on her ass) to mature into her adult life.
well, cruise did have his crazy period there. it happened right after he fired his publicist. so, a lot of the spin control is centered on the quality of the publicist.
Meanwhile, back in Baltimore, James G. Robinson is grinning in his office at Morgan Creek.
Then again “I Know Who Killed Me” will open wide tomorrow — if barely that.
Isn’t Ash Baron Cohen the cousin of Sasha? I’m pretty sure that’s the case…
I feel really bad for Lindsay, because clearly she’s out of control, and I think she’s enormously talented, and young, and needs help. I imagine Drew Barrymore would be a better example than Jodie Foster, and Drew was all over the tabloids. But it’s 100 times worse now.
But poor Lindsay, I hope she pulls out of it, because she is a wonderful young actress…
But yes, she is basically uninsurable now. A studio might take a chance but independently financed films that require a bond to make their films are not gonna be able to touch Lindsay. This is why she dropped out of a recent film (the one about the Dylan Thomas women?) because the bond company said they would not ensure the film unless she guarenteed any overages due to her bullshit, and she refused. There are only really 2 or 3 bond companies out there, it’s not like indie films will be able to find a new insurerer in the open market.
This is also the reason why Downey had to take so many supporting roles, because in bond company lingo, it makes him not a required element, which was necessary, because if he was a required element back in his “salad days” the movie wouldn’t have been bondable.
Anyway, let’s hope Lindsay can recover the way Downey has, both actors are some of my favorites.
yes, sasha and ash are related. and i think you got it right, but not 100% sure
I’m not an official reviewer, so I’m not beholden to any embargoes. My notes on I Know Who Killed Me (edited down from my post on the lonelygirl15 forums, since that was my only reason for seeing the movie).
The movie is HORRIBLE. Admittedly, I’m not the target audience for this movie (late 20s, gay male, midwestern), and I like to think I know enough about film to get me through the day. I am the kind of guy who even if I REALLY have to pee, will wait until the end of the movie and book it to the restroom. I didn’t care, I went, and I didn’t miss anything except some of the stripping stuff that we saw in the trailer.
There isn’t an in-focus shot in the whole movie, and the script is horrible. The entire audience laughed at the big scenes at the end of the movie. They weren’t supposed to be funny.
In my teens, I watched many a bad direct-to-video movie and this has all the hallmarks.
Star who should be the highlight of the film: Lohan (check) Lonelygirl15-Jessica Rose (check)
Fading stars: Julia Ormond (check)
TV actors who you’ll recognize but probably not remember their names: Neal McDonough (“guy with those intense blue eyes and bad blonde dye job” check), Paula Marshall (“girl who looks like Janeane Garofalo, but isn’t as PMS-y” check)
Poor production values: the aforementioned out of focus camera, and (not yet mentioned) bad lighting (check)
Cheesy script that uses all the cliches: I won’t give out any spoilers, but (check)
Gives away the ending by the end of the first half hour: If you pay attention to what people say and do (check)
This is clearly a wait for the cheapy theater, video, or youtube movie.
I think a major reason why Robert Downey was able to make a comeback was because, despite his self-destructive behavior, he is an extremely talented actor and seems respected by his peers.
Also, his fame comes almost entirely from his work, not his after-work hijinks as in the case of Lohan. I don’t think it is apt to compare the two: Downey spent many years doing excellent work in film and on tv, whereas fame just seemed to fall into Lohan’s lap (among other things) without her paying her dues.
She has talent, I think, but not nearly as much as Downey.
you got that right, ogami, robert downey is a god, certainly one of the best actors of his generation (i just saw him last night on dvd in ‘a scanner darkly’ and damn that boy is amazing), to compare him and lohan is sort of absurd. personally i couldn’t give a rat’s ass about lohan and her public self-destruction, the girl must be thick as a plank if she can’t call a taxi
You can’t properly chase someone in a taxi.
Sure you can. Don’t you watch movies? š
Lohan rules. You guys don’t know how to party.
Drinking OWNS.