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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
The real shame of this is that The Yes Man is a very funny British book and I stress “British.” I really hate that Carrey is probably going to turn this dry, witty and subtly hilarious book into Liar Liar 2.
not just a gossip columnist
a BAD gossip columnist
with no pride and no ethics
Don: OK, let me guess — you’re riffing on Ben Kingsley in Pascali’s Island, right?
The real shame is she’s become the biggest Hollywood reporter on the net by running bs stories time and time again.
Just to set the record straight, on July 29, 2003, David Poland’s own MCN ran an announcement that the California Court of Appeals ruled in my favor. So did the lower court. http://www.moviecitynews.com/Notepad/2003/030729_pr.html
Among other things, the appeals panel unanimously found that my stories about Disney for the New York Post were accurate, and that my case had a probability of prevailing on the libel and other issues. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/b160267.pdf
Therefore, Poland is wrong to now claim I wrote a “factually inaccurate article” about Disney back then. Then again, whatever Poland writes about me is always wrong.
if you build it, she will come
That is not Poland’s claim, though Nikki. He is merely reciting on what grounds NY Post let you go and he says that claim is actually Eisner’s.
“for writing a factually inaccurate story (based on public statements by Michael Eisner”
But how about the other claims about your piece? You just took one tiny bit of the piece out of context.
Now this has become rather interesting. Miami Heat calls you out yet again as a journalist, but you do not go after him after he called you out? Huh? Who cares about what MCN stated about your firing or dismissal. You were called out on a PROFESSIONAL level — yet again — by David Poland, and this is the best rebuttal you have to the man? That’s weak. It’s so damn weak that the weakness of your rebuttal defies analogy.
(Sigh.) Such nonsense. Just laughable. ‘Bye.
Which part is nonsense, exactly, Nikki? It seems pretty easy to act like you’re above all this childish “nonsense” and add your quips, but you don’t really do anything else to defend yourself against these accusations. I would think that if someone was spreading false rumors against me and my work, I would counter those claims. Instead, you find one little nit to pick and then call us out as nonsensical and laughable. The onus should be on the author of the blog to shoot down false allegations if they are indeed false, especially when those allegations are made clearly and with information to back it up.
I liked the recent DHD post wherein Nikki blasts the Hollywood Reporter for acknowledging that Merv Griffin was – gasp! – gay.
On THIS she takes the high road?
I think any agent would say that the problem with Carrey’s deal, and why it’s not fitting for a man of his stature, is the old adage of “The Creative Hollywood accounting”.
I don’t know how they get away with it and not get investigated by the SEC. But they don’t, so they do.
So in short, Poland, get off your high horse. Unless Carrey is counting the beans, this was a bad deal.
Mark my words, it will end up in a law suite if Yes Man makes ANY money.
aw, i ended up the law suite one night when the hotel had overbooked. complimentary Toblerone!
Well hqmeister, you are assuming you know the details of the deal. I seriously doubt that this deal has landmarks that are reliant on the vagueries of “studio accounting.”
Do you really think that CAA and Miller/Gold are ignorant enough not to define the perameters of the terms of the agreement?
Investigated by the SEC? What the hell are you talking about?
Your words are marked.
But I would suspect that any agent would be looking at this deal – which was reported by Nikki via gossip, not actual access to the hard details of the deal itself – and figuring out how to get the same deal for their clients who have become too expensive for studios to hire at the traditional prices. And you can bet that there are 100 actors out there in the under-10-million range who have projects they would love to get a deal like this on…
You know, hq, the business is in a silent recession. It would be very easy for agents if they could keep demanding the “traditional” amounts and get movies made. But have you noticed… 6 of the Top 10 grossers this year are movies without gross point actors and a 7th has three gross point actors who didn’t get their price?
I’m not saying that this deal is not more risky than a 20/20. What I am saying is, do the math. It’s still quite likely to be a $20 million plus payday, no matter how mediocre the film. And the air above that has upside… and downside. But if you want to make $90 million no-effects comedies, there has to be a better answer than just sticking to your guns.
And if Carrey’s camp isn’t counting the beans, they have trouble on every film he’s made. Theatrical is public and DVD is accountable and the notion that WB is going to grow the cost of the movie freely against his payday is the kind of obvious game that must be accounted for in the contract. No one is stupid enough to give up control to that degree, without having to do the daily accounting during production.
Well of course we don’t know the details of the Carrey’s deal, or any deal in Hollywood for that matter. But we know the principles behind it, and that’s what we’re talking about.
As for Creative Hollywood accounting…It’s true that an agency’s worth is in their Accounting Department. Because without it, their clients would never get paid properly.
But even if you have a Top House Agency, it just doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter who you are or who you’re Rep by….chances are, Net profits means no Profits.
Look at Peter Jackson, he just won a ton of Oscars, made Billions of dollars for New Line, but yet, he still has to sue them for a 100 million he says they owe him.
Tom Hanks and Rita are in Net Profit battle over “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”, And he’s about as Golden as you can get…
And that’s just recently, you have Alan Alda a few years back suing Fox over Net profits regarding M.A.S.H. At the same time you had David Duchovny suing about syndication of X-Files.
This has been going on FOREVER. I mean, look at “Coming to America”. You had Studio Exces going into court. Swearing an Oath and saying that that movie hasn’t turned a profit.
LOL, what are they? The Tobacco Industry?
So yes, as an Agent POV, any deal that, more likely than not, end up in a court room, is a bad deal.
Which brings me to my side point. Fox, Disney, Warner Brothers, Paramount , MGM…these are all publicly traded companies who are less than transparent when it comes to their accounting.
And if you really need an example of this, Let’s look at the Two Peters (Jon Peter & Peter Guber) and their days at Columbia.
Sure it’s an extreme example of people running a studio, but a great example on how a studio operates. How much does a movie cost? It’s anyone’s guess.
And again, since they’re publicly traded companies, I wonder how this loose, non-transparent accounting flies by the SEC.
I would like nothing better than for people to feed Nikki information all day long (this so called “gossip”) and for DP to apply his pretzel logic to it.
You are sooooo jealous David Poland…
It is soooooooooooooooooooooooo obvious.
(Talk about calling the kettle black.)
“Thought you had her this time didn’t ya sheriff!”
If you spent as much time giving her credit when she is correct – as you do when you think she’s wrong – there wouldn’t be enough space on your website left for your own silly dribble.
I supported youin the past when you told everyone Spideyman sucked…
Now I regret even doing that – you silly little monkey you!
GIVE IT A REST POLAND! Trying to bring others down, will NEVER lift you up. Especially you.
Thank you, Nikki.
Your EGO is AMAZING Poleman.
Here Nikki bothers to write to you today with her real name and you STILL don’t get it do you…
Let’s meet for lunch Dave, and I’ll show you my dick and then maybe you’ll get the point…
(If I were Nikki, would I sit on you face and kick your ass.)
But I’m not – so I’ll just let you take me to lunch and prove that “WhatNoKiss” is a guy – a guy you don’t want to
Ugh, I can’t believe people still do this on the internet; making vicious personal attacks and then hiding behind anonymity, then reveling with glee at the fact that nobody knows who you are and thinking for a minute that somebody cares. If that’s your thing, then please go to Aint It Cool, whatnokiss.
Noah … quit sniveling.
And quit thinking I care about you or what you other somebodies think. I’m not writing for you, I’m writing to Dave. You’re just a Poland groupie – oh for joy!
If we were all supposed to take your silly advice, Dave would have to quit this day job at MCN and have to go back to writing cute little screenplays.
(Someday – I’ll let Dave know who I am, but in the mean time … there’s too much glee to be had watching him thrust in his sword, only to find out he stabbed the wrong meat.)
Get a life Dave … besides just making vicious personal attacks on others and hiding behind you blogger groupies like Noah for support.
And to prove the point – attack another friend of mine like Jeff Wells one of these days and watch me come down on you for that as well.
(nikki wouldn’t act like that, now would she)
Kiss-Kiss
You must have some ego to think that so much time and effort is spent on you. It would matter if you were attacking David or anybody else, you’re acting like a spoiled child. If your message was for David and David alone, then you could e-mail him, but I suppose that would involve revealing your identity and then we’d know that you’re really just some regular dude typing away on his keyboard with delusions of grandeur. This board doesn’t need your veiled threats and snark. You want to dis DP, then write about his work or something that he has written about and have at it, that’s what this board is for, not for threats.
David Poland IS Noah
So,
I get this little message from Dave when I try to respond on the blog.
It goes something like this …
“In an effort to curb malicious comment posting by abusive users, I’ve enabled a feature that requires a weblog commenter to wait an amount of time before being able to post again.”
So!
I guess I been bad a bad boy because Davie just gave me a ‘time out’.
Ooooooh ouch daddy, don’t hurt me, don’t hurt me!!!
Noah … quit sniveling.
And quit thinking I care about you or what your other “somebodies” on this blog think. I’m not writing for you, I’m writing to the other you – to Dave. You’re just a figment of Poland’s imagination. His own little avatar…
Get a life Dave/Noah … besides just making vicious personal attacks on others and hiding behind your alternate universe of blogger groupies for support. Those midgets couldn’t defend you in real world…they’re all secretly snickering at you behind their computer screens anyway whenever you put your foot in your mouth, no matter how much they seem to support you in blogger speak.
When you attack others (Dave-Noah) you deserve to be attacked. “Treat others as you wish to be treated” little buddy.
But wait!
Oh no! You are the god of this blog, and you can pull my plug whenever you don’t like being attacked like you do to others, or you’ll allow others to do to others as long as it’s not you.
Ridiculing and pushing others down – does not glorify you – nor lift you up. (As in me having to spank doesn’t make me any better.) Get a clue.
Get out of the “I wanna be the DrudgeReport of the Movie biz rut” and get out there and do some real journalism or some really fast reporting that will lift you up – no matter what Nikki or I or anyone else says.
Noah?
Okay, I have not said anything personal about you that even comes close to what you are saying about Dave. But, I think in giving you any attention, I’m somehow sating your desires. So I’ll refrain from that from now on. I don’t care about you and your little quips about me, but if you feel like you have more to say then feel free to e-mail me. But I’m sure that will never happen because you enjoy your anonymity too much. I hope you find something more positive to waste your time on.
wow, this got real retarded, real fast. XL psychos on the prowl…
You’re a little crazy, aren’t you, Whatnokiss? Paranoia? Schizophrenia? Obsesive projection?
You seem to be having a relationship with me that I am not aware of… is this the return of Spam Dooley?
hqmeister, you are the reason I wrote this entry. You see to be more than willing to believe, against logic, that this is some simple net profit deal… same old “monkey points.”
And that is why Nikki is a problem. She gets a phone call from some other agent trying to embarass Gold/Miller and runs it with utter spin and few actual facts. And you keep spinning from there.
This is the same way the LA Times ended up running stories about an internet boycott of Fox that never happened. Internet Gossip Fever is not good for anyone other than the spin doctor selling it and the gossip printing it.
David: Just ignore the crazies. It only makes them crazier.
Thank you, Joe.
Joe, I’m so thankful that I read your archived play by play of all the Halloween films. It saved me the time and frustration of having to rewatch them all before Rob Zombie’s remake, since your blog post reminded me of all the awfulness that I had blocked out in the years since I’d seen them all. So, thanks for posting that link on another thread!
Well, since we’re expressing thanks this evening, let me thank David for posting the Movie City News link to the NYT story on Horton Foote. I have had my own encounters with this gracious gentleman, for which I am grateful.
http://movingpictureblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/sunday-viewing-tip.html
We already know that Spam Dooley thinks that Nikki Finke is unprofessional and conniving based on her Michael Bay story…so probably not.