It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
EXCELLENT post.
I remember when Heigl was just this C-list cheesecake TV actresses whose main claim to fame seemed to be appearing in FHM near-constantly.
Now she’s become the ultimate in indulgent, humorless, arrogant, self-serious celebrity, all full of unsolicited opinions that she seems eager to share at the drop of a hot and at the most obnoxious moments.
Like, why is the chick from UNDER SIEGE 2 suddenly the go-to person for an indignant, angry, humorless quote about writers, or gender issues, or workplace homphobia, or contract negotiations?
I didn’t think it could get any lamer than dissing her own blockbuster movie for sexism WHILE ON A PRESS TOUR FOR A FAR MORE BACKWARDS-THINKING BULLSHIT ROMCOM…
…but this might take the cake.
1. I love Heigl for doing this. Absolutely love it. It’s just a fact that her storylines on Grey’s Anatomy have become crap. And, in my lifetime, it’s one of the worst jumping-the-shark moments.
2. You’re right, she’s not Kate Hudson. She’s way bigger than Kate Hudson. Heigl has a hit TV show and will forever have cult fans from her other show, she’s won an Emmy and two hit movies in 8 months.
3. That quote about Knocked Up being “a little sexist” is proven even more valid, I think, by the reaction to Sex and the City. It’s alright for “boys to be boys” and talk about porn and pussy (and in the end, the schlub gets the babe!) but for “girls to be girls” and talk about sex and clothes (and in the end, maybe find the man of their dreams) it is repulsive and offensive.
I’ve been a fan since Roswell (one show I will geek out about) so perhaps I’m biased, but I also like that she’s funny and a bit more down-to-earth and open than other celebs.
Wow, that came off really fanboyish of me, huh?
It’s probably because I just watched that clip of her on Letterman talking about being molested by a puppet. I’d love anybody if they talked about being molested by an evil puppet on national tv.
I like her but this is something that no one should care about. What’s the big deal?
I thought it was cool when she called out Isaiah before anyone else had the balls too, but she needs to stop dissing the people that write for her, whether it’s Apatow or the Grey’s staff.
Catherine Keener had less to work with on the page in The 40-Year-Old Virgin than Heigl did in Knocked Up, but she still created a vivid and likable character. Leslie Mann, Elizabeth Banks, Jane Lynch, Mo Collins and Mindy Kaling took bit parts in Virgin and knocked them out of the park. Knocked Up had fewer women’s parts, but Mann and Kristen Wiig ran with what they had and scored a lot of the movie’s biggest laughs.
Heigl has made a career out of having her scenes stolen by other actresses, whether it’s Mann and Wiig in Knocked Up, Judy Greer in 27 Dresses, or any of the other actresses on Grey’s (besides Ellen Pompeo). She’s done nothing to suggest that she’s anything more than the Blonde of the Moment, and the fact that people are paying her $6 million to star in movies is frightening.
I mentioned this to my “Grey’s Anatomy”-loving wife last night and she replied that after some two-parter this last season where Heigl has to melodramatically save some dying elk or something on a surgical table, she gave up on the show completely and agrees with Heigl.
Then I mentioned the bit about not publicly humiliating your writing staff and she backed down a little bit.
This could very well be a career destroying action, since there is no reason for it (she could have simply not submitted and not said anything and no one would have been the wiser) and it’ll likely make writers scared to write for her. The irony of course, and a telling sign of her arrogance, is that the third season of Grey’s Anatomy was criticized for being too Izzie-heavy. So, of course, now that this season (allegedly) returned the focus to Meredith Grey, Heigl complains and makes a public hissy fit. It’s a supporting role on an ensemble show that’s named after a different character, you can’t always be the star.
To be fair, getting criticized for having your scenes stolen by Judy Greer is like being slammed for getting whupped in a pickup game by Michael Jordan. She’s funnier, more talented, and prettier than all of the actresses she plays second fiddle too. The only movie she didn’t steal was 13 Going On 30, and that was only because Jennifer Garner gave an Oscar-worthy performance (Yes, I do think it’s a better film than Big). And Greet still took a stock-role and gave it depth.
For that matter, Leslie Mann stole Knocked Up partially because she had the most memorable scenes of the film. I have not seen Sex And The City and I agree that much of the criticism has been disconcerting. But, despite not loving Knocked Up, I’d all but guarantee that none of the four leads are half as sympathetic and moving as Leslie Mann in Knocked Up. Her feelings certainly represent the emotions of far more women than Carrie and her fantastical adventures.
Men who truly seem to love women (Judd Apatow, Joss Whedon) are just as capable, if not more so it seems, of writing real, three-dimensional women, as their female counterparts. That’s what was so annoying about Heigl’s bashing of Knocked Up. She was lucky enough to star in the rare big studio film that gave us psychologically messy three-dimensional female leads, and she cries sexism because Rogan got more fart jokes.
in knocked up, they were all young guys, all meant to be under 30. immature, not taking on life yet, in fact, clearly avoiding it. They’re lifestyles were used for humor, but ultimately frowned upon as not the way to go.
weren’t the sex and the city ladies all pushing (or over) 40 and still as superficial as the cast of BRATZ? And more, celebrated without irony by the filmmakers for this superficiality.
making I’m parsing to closely, but that seems to be a significant difference to me.
also, I saw someone mention the Seinfeld analogy last time. That the characters in Seinfeld were superficial, but that superficiality was the driving point of the humor. The characters paid a price for their shallowness in nearly every episode. Not so for Sex.
Three years ago she was nothing. Grey’s — and watched it once and hated it — gave her everything, it rebooted her “career.” Just because you do a bad season, you don’t call the writers out. It’s not like they were trying to suck. She doesn’t have to be happy about it, but to publicly flog them? Not smart. Not even Clooney did that — he was grateful, as he should have been.
Also, a little early to start producing your own movie about Mormon polygamists, no? If she kept doing 249 Dresses she could ride out a couple years, but people are going to turn on her. And now they even have a reason to.
I…have no opinion.
Is it an unsolicited opinion when the AP asked her about it?
Grey’s has always been “high school in a hospital,” but at least it was fun for a season or two. Now it’s just excruciating (but I can’t turn away!). Heigl was particularly brilliant back when she had scenes with Denny, but since his death they’ve shoved her into truly embarrassing storylines. I wonder if her Emmy announcement is a ploy, a way of saying, “Let me out of my contract or I’ll keep up the public bitching.” I’m guessing she feels like she’s trapped in a crap show while her feature film iron is hot, but I do agree that it’s not classy to diss the hard-working colleagues (even the inept ones) who helped put her where she is today. Also, it’s kind of odd to be saying, in effect, “Dear Emmy, even though you had the good taste to reward me last year, I can’t in good conscience allow for the possibility that you’ll be blinded by my uncanny turd-polishing this year and overlook some deserving soul who had better material to work with.”
I was not down with her Knocked Up critique either. The female characters in that film may not have been feminist icons, but they managed to be flawed, real and funny while providing a comparatively mature contrast to the child-men. I think Apatow took pains to be balanced, even though he quite naturally filtered everything through a male perspective.
All that said, I think Heigl has become a superb actress, and I hope she doesn’t burn a lot of bridges.
Call me vapid, but she has an absolutely killer bod, which is her main claim to fame, so I really don’t care what she does to hurt or help her career. Except keep in shape.
I couldn’t care less about the self-important reasons her withdrawing, I’m just glad she did because few things annoy me more at the Emmys than repeat winners. I’ve always maintained that actors & actresses who win should be made ineligible for the duration of their current production.
Hollywood is so full of sycophantic liars that as far as I’m concerned, when somebody acts the other way it’s a breath of fresh air.
What makes Heigl’s words so smug is the context of her trashing Knocked Up also. She comes off as one of those people who wants to be perceived as helping others but is clearing only about herself.
The whole “I don’t want to detract from other actress’ hard work” can be translated to…”I know I will win so I will let the plebes have their day.” Seems generous on the surface but is really about her own ego.
Scott,
I disagree that Whedon loves women. Quite the opposite. He loves a certain type of woman and perpetuates that stereoptype at all cost. The small, uber petite whippet, who is gorgeous beyond belief and can deliver kicks and zingers like a “guy”. Not saying that makes him a bad person but Whedon’s version of women is no more 3-dimensional then any other directors. It is just rooted in the facile grrrrrrl power of his womyn’s studies degree. I actually find Whedon’s version of women quite insulting and while I have no idea if they are true, I have no problem believing the stories that he wanted Carpenter to have an abortion when she got pregnant.
Whedon’s version of women is rooted more in adolescent male superhero(ine) fantasy then anything to do with reality. Just the polar opposite of the June Cleaver stereoptype of the 50’s. Both are products of and fantasy’s of their era.
I pray to God he has nothing to do with Wonder Woman.
Actually…the Wachowski’s could have done a good job with Wonder Woman given how they depicted Trinity. Silver should let them have a crack at the script instead of Whedon. They don’t bog down their women in ideological bullshit.
I don’t like her, sorry. Does anyone else remember her ‘i’m so nervous, please forgive me the poor helpless thing’ fixed-deer-in-the-headlights routine at the Oscars this year, and not buy her act for a single second? And don’t forget that she only lucked into being cast in Knocked Up because (and i wonder how she feels about this now) Anne Hathaway turned it down.
We all have our favorite types of women, but I was basing my Whedon comment on this rather impassioned comment on the absurdity of sexism:
http://whedonesque.com/comments/13271
It was in response to a video-taped honor killing a couple years ago. I remember being impressed.
Actually the transcipt that you link to makes me think Whedon is even more of a twit. I do not mean to be argumentative…just sharing my opinion.
He talks about the brutal – real life – honour killing and torture of a young woman being horrible then says says the ad campaign of Captivity is – just – as bad. Last time I checked, no movie ad depicting murder is as bad as the real thing. It just gives him an excuse to trash America.
He trashes all the major world religions treatment of women (based with much ignorance mind you), then has no problem depicting very primitive “New Age” religions like Wicca in the most positive light knowing very little about their actual history.
I single out Whedon because he does not speak from a place from actually knowing or understanding women or various other faiths and cultures and their history. He’s just an ignorant white guy who took “womyn’s studies” at university.
And it shows in his works stereotypical depiction of women. He pigeonholes them just in the same way I am sure he would say others do.
I am sure we will not be seeing any 250 lb overweight women struggling with an eating disorder in Whedon’s work anytime soon. He is selling a white, male driven fantasy that is every bit as stereotypical as the madonna/whore complex he decries in others.
I think he is actually quite a misogynist.
Again, not trying to be argumentative with you. Just sharing my opinion.
“He’s just an ignorant white guy who took “womyn’s studies” at university.”
Name-calling aside, is this based on any actual reality?
Nicol: I’m by no means an expert on Whedon, but I was a fan of Buffy and Angel (haven’t seen Firefly). While it’s true that some of the female characters at least partially fit your designation (“the small, uber petite whippet, who is gorgeous beyond belief and can deliver kicks and zingers like a ‘guy'”), many do not. It doesn’t really describe, for instance, Willow and Tara, two major Buffy supporting characters. Charisma Carpenter wasn’t uber petite. Anya, Dawn, Faith — none of these or the other girls were exactly mirror images of each other, character-wise. For the genre, the Buffy series in particular had a rather nice range of female types, none of whom were mere grrrl power cliches. The show unquestionably catered to the empowerment fantasies of teen girls (and the boys who desire them), but I’m not sure why that’s necessarily insulting or misogynist, even if, as you note, it’s ultimately no more 3-dimensional than the work of most writers/directors.
What I remember about the Whedon blog entry was not the Captivity comparison (which I disagreed with then and now) or the references to Wicca (don’t know enough about the faith to comment on that), but it was pleasant to see someone ask the question of just why so much of the world is so cruel to literally half the population.
We constantly dissect racism and anti-semitism, xenophobia, and the like, but sexism in its many many forms seems to be taken for granted, not really analyzed. It seems to be borderline accepted, especially in other cultures not our own, as an unfortunate reality of life, when it of course makes no sense in any logical way. It was refreshing for someone to point out just how little sense it made for so many cultures to subjugate literally half the planet.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
If “Knocked Up” was so sexist why did 20th Century Fox name-check it in the trailer for “27 Dresses”? Movie Promotion for Dummies, that’s why.
Three separate thoughts, no connection, Chucky.
what a storm in a teacup.
well said, scott
Where in the link above does Whedon say that Captivity is just as bad as what happened to Dua Khalil? I only saw him say that the trailer for the film made him think of the Dua Khalil incident.
Looks like jeffmcm didn’t see the trailer for “27 Dresses”. That trailer clearly billed the star as “Knocked Up‘s Katherine Heigl”.
Which was a good idea, because Knocked Up was a popular, well-liked movie and people might not recognize her otherwise.
27 Dresses has grossed almost $150,000,000 worldwide. I think the budget was about 30 (don’t know what they spent on P&A). Think what they could’ve made without the name-checking! The fools!
That bitch dares not censor herself to the media?
You mean she just says what she thinks?!?!
And doesn’t run it past her minders first.. that fucking cunt. I’ll have her soul. She needs to get back in the bedroom and see what’s coming next – right Dave?
When did these tramps think they got the right to have ann opinion.. what are we in the freakin twilight zone where women vote or something.
Oh I’ll have her – that BITCH!
just tell me when and where Dave – lets roll.
The above is meant to be read in the style of Ricky Roma in GGR
Nicol: much like your political beliefs. Your views of pop-culture are as ludicrious and as distasteful. You have not a clue what Joss Whedon finds to be feminine. Nor does your critique read any less nonsensical than your raving critiques of political figures that do not subscribe to fear, homophobia, sensible economic policies, or the use as government as anything more than a tool to get more lobbyist to pony up more money to keep them in office as long as possible.
If you want to share an opinion. Please find one that is more informed. If not, you are being argumentitive, and the Universe knows I love to argue. Sort of like how I can blow away your entire non-sensical rants about Whedon with one piece of video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-ukA-RaiTns . You see there clever boy. When WILLOW goes WHITE WITCH WILLOW and let’s the power of the scythe out. She empowers every girl on earth that ever could have been a slayer. Every single one of them. If you want to play. You should seriously reconsider it. It may be best for you.
I like her. She is outspoken opinionated woman. There are too many all american, dull, rom com actresses (Hudson, Aniston, Diaz)in Hollywood.
So IO somehow won an argument by showing a Buffy music video on Youtube that shows a character making other girls light up with cartoon magic?
While I don’t agree 100% with Nicol, I would say his point of never seeing an overweight girl on a Whedon show struggling with real problems like that will never be seen. And someone tried to deflect that argument with saying Charisma Carpenter is not stick thin…yeah, that’s true, but she’s also not close to being slightly overweight and is still hot as hell.
Also, I think Chucky has Asperger’s Disorder.
The problem isn’t that she’s outspoken, the problem is that she’s been wrong the last few times she’s chosen to speak out. I love Spike Lee’s movies, but he’s wrong about Eastwood too. Yay that he’s outspoken, boo that he’s picking on one of the more color-blind filmmakers of his generation. I love Eastwood’s movies, but his retort was ruder than necessary and diminished his stature. Being outspoken shouldn’t be considered a positive all by itself… you have to be wise and outspoken.
Well said, Scott. Well said.
I wasn’t trying to deflect Nicol’s argument solely by pointing out that Charisma Carpenter isn’t petite. That was just one fact in my checklist. If Nicol had been referring ONLY to the issue of body image, I would have actually agreed with him. But even there, the entire entertainment industry can be tarred with that brush. Whedon may not have been able to cast an obese girl even if he wanted to. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had to fight to cast Amber Benson, who was “overweight” by industry standards, even if that was never acknowledged within the show.
Obesity seems to be the last “acceptable” prejudice, and I’d be thrilled if more (any?) shows would cast a plus-size person as something other than the pathetic sidekick who is defined only by his/her weight. I’m not holding my breath though (FWIW, I’m not overweight, but I’m close to people who are, which has made me more sensitive to the issue).
Eastwood diminished his stature because he defended himself when another racist filmmaker accused him of subtle racism?
Something the other filmmaker has been on Eastwood since Bird?
Telling Spike to just shut his face was congenial at best compared to what would’ve been really “appropriate” for Lee’s unfounded racist remarks…
I think Eastwood’s stature increased with how he handled the “Al Sharpton” of Hollywood.
i don’t think i’ve heard anyone say ‘shut your face’ since i was a kid.
why isn’t this issue a thread instead of/as well as heigl’s rather innocuous comments? the eastwood/lee dust up really is rather thornier…perhaps it’s perceived easier and less disrespectful to pick on a lowly female actress instead of the ‘great male directors’…hmm?
or maybe not and i’m just paranoid (but just because i’m paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get me)
There may be a “boys will be boys” element to it, leah. I would guess that some people prefer the gloves-off macho posturing of the two directors to Heigl’s more passive-aggressive statement (which was probably cooked up by her publicist anyway). The guys seem to be bluntly speaking their minds, while Heigl is couching her obvious (and understandable IMO) dissatisfaction with her show’s writers in pseudo-noble, self-serving language. I’ll bet she’s wishing she’d gone with a simple “No comment” right about now. I’ll be very interested to see what her next statement on the matter will be (and there’s bound to be one, right?).
To play Devil’s advocate to Heigl’s comments;
Defamer is reporting how the whole show is feeling slighted from her comments based on how much they rearranged Grey’s production to accommodate her film schedule.
That’s a lot of people with a lot of families having to rearrange their schedules and lives to fit one’s budding film career no matter how much they tend to self sabotage it.
I don’t watch Grey’s, but considering she dissed Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen after they made her with Knocked Up…you can call me a misogynist if you want, but until regular women understand that the female known as “Actress” is NOT A WOMAN, and rather a being that has the same body parts of a woman, but the mentality, personality and emotional range of a scheming opportunistic hustler…and not a woman, than we can discuss this in more appropriate terms of who and what Heigl really is:
A Crazy-Mormon-Diva-ACTRESS!!! (who also likes to take a shit on those that helped make her)
The real women I know are compassionate, self-less, emotionally intelligent, sensitive to the well being of others and honorable with their work.
They are not chicks like this who are neurotic and passive aggressively dissing their husband in the press in between sucking down cancer sticks…
She is like school on Sunday – No class.
Ladies and Kamel, ask yourselves:
Has Meryl Streep or Susan Sarandon ever behaved this way when playing the game?
the thing is, maybe heigl doesn’t give a shit about ‘the game’.
thx, do you feel the same way about male actors? or is it just the women-folk who are scheming harpies? and sarandon’s taken a lot of heat for her outspoken opinions in the past
“Jennifer Garner gave an Oscar-worthy performance”
Excuse me for a moment while I pick my jaw up from the floor…
(click) There.
Anyway, Heigl’s little stunt is just that: a stunt. Whatever heat GREY’S had is long gone and her chances of being nominated are practically nil…and I’m sure she knows it. Everyone knows she wants out so she can go make more movies, but apparently she hasn’t bothered to study the careers of hot TV stars when they walked away from hit shows for the supposed bounties of The Big Screen.
Considering she WON last year and we all know the Emmy academy’s penchant for simply copying and pasting previous years nominees I don’t think it would been extreme to say she would’ve been nominated.
Leah, of course the male actors and “men” in Hollywood are like that. That’s the point.
The women here are not women. They are men with vagina’s. Kinda like “Mangina’s”
And before you wave Sex and The City in my face, let me give you an example.
A woman producer I went to college with, had been sleeping with a co-worker and wrecked the home and took the husband away from a little boy, and took the husband for himself and they moved in together and sure enough, she eventually got those credits she was aiming for…
Now, this guy is a real bastard anyways, and I’m not saying he doesn’t have it coming, but it hasn’t even been a year, and I don’t think he’s even finally divorced, and she’s already cheating on him with others!
That is the norm here.
I urge you to read those 48hr. Diaries.
What they say in there about actresses and the rest of the biz, is unfortunately still pretty much true today. But then 25+ years isn’t that much time in the span of history I guess.
You want other examples? Claire Danes took Billy Crudup away from Mary Louise Parker while she was 7 months pregnant, and then after she wrecked that home cheated on Crudup with another dude on a set.
You don’t wanna hear it, see it or listen, but these are not women. These are crazy chicks that act like men and do the worst of men. I don’t fault them, because behind every screwed up actress/Hollywood crazy chick is some asshole guy that ruined them. Usually with a turn out and hooking on some form of substance, usually coke.
Whether it be the worst kind of abuse , vis a vis, Angelina Jolie – which she developed into Borderline personality disorder, Bi-Polar disorder and now gives love and attention to every one of her kids except the one she gave birth to(I can’t believe she gets a pass for this)…or just a chick that has been jaded by a man one to many times that she just decided to play by their rules and takes out all the abuse that happened to her on some unsuspecting newbie young twenty-something.
You don’t want to see it, or hear it, but they’re not women, here. They are severely mentally and emotionally messed up crazies that have romantic and sexual relationships like men, and chew through men and use men to advance their career, etc. I think it’s fine and dandy and all unless you’re gonna have a kid one day, because that shit ‘s gonna catch up to you and fuck your kid up.
And yes, Heigl is one of them.
But they rock on screen and so everybody shuts the fuck up and deals.
But you’d be surprised how many cool, good looking guys that just want a normal intimate monogamous relationships are in this town that more often than not end up crying in their drink in the bar because their chick is banging someone else on their watch.
But then again, if we didn’t have that, we wouldn’t have some of our best songs and stories.
But it is switched out here, the chicks are men and the men are chicks.
And some of it is, sabotage from the gays. They cock block all the hot girls so they can starve the men out here, until they can poach a few straights…
Anyone gay here that wants to call bullshit on me, may refer to me via private email and I’ll happily have my boys in the velvet mafia call you and relate how much they love to do this.
This also my problem with Sex and The City. Michael Patrick King and his writing staff didn’t write a show about women, they wrote a show about men with vagina’s that shop for shoes.
Every one of those characters is not a woman. It’s the portrait of a gay man. They act like men in that show and chew through men, the way gay men chew through men and asshole men chew through women…
And because of it, we have a whole new generation of sluts that think it’s okay to have these kinds of relationships.
I just got done talking to a 20year old girl I used to work with that graduated from Cal State Nortridge with two degrees, this beautiful girl is a genius prodigy amazingly gorgeous half chineese dutch girl, her parents are from Century City and are very successful orthodontists to Paul McCartney and the like…
And I just got done spending last evening talking this girl out of going into Escorting for a job because she thought the money would be good!!
Seriously, the women here are not the same, but if you wanna stay closed minded and play Gloria Steinham and defend them, go ahead.
Shit, they could use Gloria Steinham!!
Um, that’s some pretty specific detail about the girl you talked out of escorting. Dave might want to think about editing out that part. Small town, widely-read blog, y’know.
THX, I respect you and all, but goddamn am I glad I don’t work wherever it is that you work.
THX,
Wow. That’s some post. It even through me for a loop. Sad thing is…based on my own experiences, I have no real problem believing it.
oh pleeze.
kam said it best a while back: i think i just threw up in my mouth a little
I am a little regretful about revealing the escorting thing, but damn if this girls parents aren’t the worst.
It has taken all my urge not to call them and enlighten them to how their mental and emotional abuse has severely fucked up their daughter. Icould get into details, but Yancy reminded me it’s not just me and the screen here.
Seriously, though. A majority of her problems I lay directly on their parenting, but es lo que es, as they say…
If it gets back to them I just gotta trust it was meant to be…
And Jeff, if you’re working in “Hollywood” you’re in just as much of that kind of muck as I or anyone else here. I’m sure whoever is in your company that plays that way, just knows how to hold it down better…
Sometimes I don’t think I’m cut out for this town. I just don’t have the stomach to keep my mouth shut on all the negative shit that goes on around here in the name of “Art” or “Cinema”
After awhile, no one does. John Leguizamo outed a bunch of dirty laundry in his memoirs. I thought for sure he would get blackballed, but there he is in The Happening, so good for him…
“i think i just threw up in my mouth a little”
Anybody that dates in LA has that same reaction…
Go ahead and dismiss it, Leah, but I invite you out here to LA anytime to see it for yourself.
Bring the kid, and while the homiez and I are spoiling him at Disneyland and Universal Studios and Magic Mountain;
you can go out and hit the clubs with my girl and I’ll get you a drive on to some of the lots and you can check out some sets and see it for yourself…
A well known celebrity that I was fortunate enough to work with in a play back in ’94 when I moved out here before college, took a shine to me and when I asked him advice on how to make it in this town he said:
“Don’t date actresses, kid.”
Of course, just like you Leah, I didn’t listen. Much to the dismay of my heart at the time.
Obviously, I don’t work in Hollywood.
thx, it’s a bit late so i’ll try not to babble, your heart seems like it’s in the right place so from a woman who’s seen a few rodeos, i just hope you’d take care not to apply double standards, judge more harshly or place disproportionate blame on women. you’re a young guy if i remember rightly (apologies if i got that wrong), life’s too short to be bitter.
i come to LA once in a blue moon for work or to visit relatives (i’m from american stock, born in hawaii, came to enzed as a teen), i find LA a strange, lonely place, rather bland (tho my son would love disneyland, haven’t been there yet with him), plenty of creative, talented people but the place has an undercurrent of desperation.
actors and actresses tend to be ‘drama queens’ (for lack of better word) by nature, i wanted to be one when i was very young but my calling was elsewhere. i remember even in crappy community threatre when i was a kid in hawaii being enthralled by the melodramatic love lives of the older players – who’s slept with who and left who for who and got who preggers…nothing changes as we get older, life is high school only with higher stakes.
also, unless you actually know someone personally to witness events first-hand, you can’t believe what you hear from others and take it on face value, because whether we like it or not, even people we know and trust have their own personal perspective, prejudices and agendas through which everything is filtered. so unless you know heigl or danes or whoever, you don’t actually know what’s gone on, who ‘stole’ who or who was responsible for what, such matters tend to involve a great deal of subjectivity.
woah, so much for not babbling! i need sleep
Is THX Lauren Hutton?