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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
Let’s see…
Yes, to having my music play on the soundtrack of Fast Times at Ridgemont High as Ron Johnson performs statutory rape on Stacey Hamilton.
No, to John McCain, a Republican, running for president.
Oh, yeah, I got paid for the first one…
I shan’t bother trying to top that one.
Didn’t Bruce Springsteen try to keep Ronald Reagan from using “Born in the USA” in the 1984 re-election campaign?
Maybe, but he might have satisfied himself that Reagan was playing a song about losing wars, getting laid off, and generally being depressed as a campaign song.
Stacey Hamilton was old enough to know what she was doing.
McCain’s too old to know his ass from his elbow.
Bahahahahaha!
I almost feel sorry for McCain. Almost being the operative word.
You’re correct Joe. Really Obama should use “Born in the USA” because he was after all born here and technically McCain wasn’t. And it would get the message through to the Cokie’s of the world.
Thematic use issues is not piracy. If they didn’t clear it with Browne, they didn’t clear it. Unless there’s proof they didn’t pay Elektra, it’s not piracy. Keep trying, though.
And I do hope someone makes Syemourgrant’s argument about McCain not being born in the U.S. I’m sure every person whose served abroad, by directions of the US government, will like to know that they are not U.S citizens.
You realize, Seymour, that’s the issue? It’s not where one was born, it’s if the parents were of legal age to have been granted full adult citizenship. So, say if someone’s parents happen to be, oh 18 or 19, and gives birth outside the US, they may not have been an adult citizen long enough to pass those rights along.
But please, continue. I’m sure the Obama camp will love dealing with that issue.
How about a meatball sandwich, a medium coke, and your phone number…
Mutinyco,
Funny stuff, I’m never going to be able watch the Fast Times scene again without giggling.
Here’s a fun test. Ask yourself a question, out of these two scenarios which is more unforgiveable?
A) Mike Damone no shows Stacy’s abortion because he can’t get the money and he’s a creep.
B) Mike Damone no shows the abortion because of his Conservative Republican beliefs.
Be Honest…
“I think I came…”
-My name is John McCain and I approve this message.
Just watched Fast Times again Sunday night. It’s amazing how cheezy it plays two decades later.
Best is the dialogue when Reinhold picks up Leigh afterwards from the clinic.
I’m paraphrasing but the dialogue runs something like this:
“Don’t tell mom and dad.”
“Naw. Let’s go get somethin’ to eat.”
“Sure.”
Priceless complexity from the always overrated Cameron Crowe.
Still a film with some funny bits though. Watched better as curio cult film than a classic…which it is not.
Damone is like a scuzzy, creepy version of Stiles in Teen Wolf.
He asks her who it was. She doesn’t want to tell him. He tells her it’ll just be their secret then.
And yes, it is a classic.
Right…then comes the “Wanna go get somethin’ to eat?” “Sure” lines.
I would have loved to have seen a DVD extra of them getting a McMuffin after. It’s that kinda flick. I mean I howled through the whole scene.
There is also something really schizophrenic about the way the Leigh character is written. As though Crowe didn’t know if he wanted her character be good girl, bad girl, good girl gone bad or anything in between. She comes off quite flaky and not even really sympathetic.
It may be a sentimental classic to the people who grew up with it but it is pretty rough to watch today.
John Hughes blew this stuff out of the water and his writing is far more sophisticated than Crowe’s.
I thought that scene was pretty realistic. I mean, do you really expect a couple of teenage siblings to get into an abortion debate at that moment? She did it, she feels bad, he gets it.
I disagree about Leigh’s character Nicol D. I always felt the arc of the movie is that she’s a sweet kid that gets swept into the fast lane by her older friend. She gets knocked around and ends up slowing down with a nice kid. She’s schizophrenic because she discovering who she wants to be. I always viewed felt her story arc had a bit of a latch key kid horror story beat to it. Here’s what your kid is up to between 3-5 PM before you get home from work.
I just IMDB’d Jennifer Jason Leigh, I never knew she was Vic Morrow’s daughter. He died a month before Fast Times was released.
“She comes off quite flaky and not even really sympathetic.” Kind of like a lot of high school kids.
Without dissing Hughes (though outside of Ferris, PT&A, and 16 Candles I can take or leave him), his high school dialogue is great for being dialogue that very few actual high school students would ever say. It’s very much written from an older “if I was there now” perspective. Which is fine, but not the same thing FT was aiming for.
I wonder, does McCain prefer to edit his campaign ads with Avid or Final Cut Pro? Was the Jackson Browne song from his CD collection, or did he download the MP3? I wonder if he licensed the muzak in his ads, or purchased some royalty-free library, or effin’ stole that music too. After this incident, I’m convinced he’s capable of anything.
I will say, he did a pretty good job designing his website. Do you think he used a WYSIWYG program like FrontPage to create it, or did he just code the HTML from scratch? Knowing John, he probably used someone else’s site as a template, and cut-and-pasted in his own stuff. Not in my name, McCain.
“When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV.”
-My name is John McCain and I approve this message.
So Mystery, you’d prefer for him to be in the dark while his advisors run his campaign? Isn’t 8 years of that enough?
“And I do hope someone makes Syemourgrant’s argument about McCain not being born in the U.S. I’m sure every person whose served abroad, by directions of the US government, will like to know that they are not U.S citizens.
You realize, Seymour, that’s the issue? It’s not where one was born, it’s if the parents were of legal age to have been granted full adult citizenship. So, say if someone’s parents happen to be, oh 18 or 19, and gives birth outside the US, they may not have been an adult citizen long enough to pass those rights along.”
You’re getting the controversies confused.
In Obama’s case, the issue is whether his mother qualifies as a U.S. citizen because of a ‘5 years after age 16’ clause. That’s moot because he was born Hawaii, which is in the US, so he’s automatically a citizen.
In McCain’s case, nobody disputes whether he is a citizen. The question is whether or not he is a “natural-born citizen” of the United States, a phrase that is a lot more complicated than it looks. The law explicitly covering the Panama Canal zone was passed after McCain was born, which doesn’t help his case. (I doubt it will go anywhere, though.)
When I have choose between Staged rape and McCain I choose rape every hands down time.
As I saw bullitin, “SAVE YOUR MOTHER DRAMA, VOTE OBAMA”
And do it FOR LIFE!
Considering that much of Crowe’s material came from his non-fiction experience back in school, the dialogue and scenarios in FAST TIMES are pretty apt. That’s why we all loved it in the day. It is the best 80’s high school movie and today plays almost like an indie film. Listen to the great DVD commentary with Crowe and Heckerling.
Of course, Mrs. Vargas apparently went home with Phil Spector and according to him committed suicide in his kitchen. I guess she shouldn’t have switched to Sanka…
“So Mystery, you’d prefer for him to be in the dark while his advisors run his campaign?”
Didn’t imply anything of the sort. I’m saying that its not realistic to expect ANY candidate to micromanage their campaign to this extent. If a mistake has been made, McCain should and likely has been made aware of it, and he should deal with it accordingly. No one is condoning copyright infringement here.
If this exact incident had happened in Obama’s camp, I’d say exactly the same thing. And in that case, I think DP would agree with me. But he’s too busy making mountains out of McCain’s molehills, and molehills out of Obama’s mountains.
Did someone actually mention Stiles from Teen Wolf on this blog?
“Look, don’t tell me you’re a fag because if you tell me you’re a fag, I don’t think I can handle it.”
Long Live Jerry Levine!
Oh, and John Hughes’ Some Kind of Wonderful is head and shoulders better than Pretty in Pink.
Whether or not McCain qualifies as a “natural born citizen” under Article II Sec. 1 Clause 5 of the Constitution is a textbook example of a nonjusticiable question. No court in the United States would touch it, if it ever made it to a court in the first place. And when I say no court will touch it, I mean that Hillary Clinton is more likely to be the Republican nominee for the presidency than any court in a Federal circuit is to decide the case on the merits instead of placing it in a hazardous material container and shipping it off to the nearest toxic waste dump.
Not to mention, the standing requirements make it nearly impossible for any one individual voter to be able to claim standing on the grounds of suffering a palpable injury from McCain’s running for the presidency. To think otherwise is purely wishful thinking. You know, like the kind that holds Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee for the presidency.
McCain = Mr. Hand