It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” ā some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it ā I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury ā he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” ā and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging ā I was with her at that moment ā she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy namedā” “Yeah, sure ā you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that Iām on the phone with you now, after all thatās been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didnāt seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. Thereās not a case of that. He wasnāt using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had ā if that were what the accusation involved ā the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. Iām not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, āYou know, itās not this, itās thatā? Because ā let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. TimesĀ piece, thatās what it lacked. Thatās what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
It’s sad, because she showed much promise practically out of the gate with The Parent Trap, and seemed to be fulfilling that promise in hits such as Mean Girls and Freaky Friday. But childhood + fame + money is almost always a recipe for disaster, especially when those hormonally charged teen years hit. Lohan is responsible for her own mistakes of course, but growing up grounded and normal is never the likeliest outcome for these young stars. Still, Drew Barrymore came back from it, so there’s always hope.
It’s saddening because, since she did do some really good work as an actress, she’ll never be Paris Hilton, a person who appears to have nothing else going for her other than being “Paris Hilton”. But then, that’s exactly why Lohan is worse than Hilton, because she DID have a skill and some talent and now she’s all but pissed it away in the fast lane.
Errrr, how about that, she is out of work for two years now and without a hit movie since Mean Girls, YET this annoying twat cant stay one week without giving an interview, blogging about her personal life or public fight her family, for the good of all of us, I hope she disappears, she is incapable of staying out of spot light, is absolutely addict to media attention and even if she start to work again the public is sick of her, that always was Lindsay biggest problem, she cant stay out of public light. And people get sick of her.
I pray to God for her to f@ck off
i’m always amused by the uninformed shit people say when the name paris hilton comes up…
she wrote a book that made the nyt bestseller list, she starred in a movie that carried it’s opening week-end, she released a cd that opened at #6 on the billboard chart, she starred in a tv series that (for two of its three seasons) paid fox’s rent, she’s designed a women’s accessory line and endorsed a fragrence, she continues to model and last year earned a reported seven million dollars…..
just exactly how much does a person have to accomplish before she’s considered more than ‘being famous just for being famous’?
jeeze, and i don’t even care for paris hilton…..
Yeah, but how much of that stuff did she actually ‘do’?
Dead eyes, Scooter. The woman has the dead eyes of a mannequin.
Every single thing you listed scooter was successful because of her notoriety.
Nobody went to House of Wax because they thought she’d give a convincing performance, they went to see it, if they saw it all for her, because they wanted to see.her.die. Even that’s a bit of a stretch, I think it opened because it was a weak weekend and teenagers had nothing better to do, and horror movies are good date movies at that age.
People watched her Fox show(I don’t even remember the title) because they wanted to see her do hard work she was unaccustomed to, or laugh at her when she whined about it.
Her CD opened well but didn’t go on to much, look at all the cries for followups. Or concert tours. The silence is deafening.
Celebrity-endorsements are not an achievement in and of themselves, they’re the fruits of celebrity.
Paris Hilton is only a celebrity because she’s a slim, tall rich blonde girl with a famous last name who was in a porn video. She’s not even particularly attractive. She has not displayed one iota of talent other than milking her celebrity.
yes, i think what rankles about paris’s achievements is that she has managed to do all those things scoot mentioned without any discernible talent, and with all the charisma of a potted house plant.
Oh, boy…
There might be an all-caps epic in store about this in T-minus six hours.
For now I’ll just calmly say I agree with scooterzz for the most part, but also ask why Lindsay’s seemingly out-of-control recent style and persona would be compared to Paris, who’s been all about CONTROL the last few years?
Say all you want about “unearned” fame, etc., but when it comes to marketing herself and her stuff, Paris is an absolute professional.
The LL career stuff is a legit question and topic; Throwing in Paris’s name seems like kind of a cheap shot.
Ugly Betty is a fake story why?
cuz all the Betty cast came to defend Lohan.
talk about studio movie you should know that most indie film need real’big star’ for funding especially Lohan who has a good record at box office and yes FYI 22m$ is actually a good number and that almost gaurantee big distribution later.so studio or not doesn’t matter
and you compared her to Paris I don’t know why I wasted my time here.
Ugly Betty is a fake story why?
cuz all the Betty cast came to defend Lohan.
talk about studio movie you should know that most indie film need real’big star’ for funding espescially Lohan who has a good record at box office and yes FYI 22m$ is actually a good number and that almost gaurantee big distribution later.so studio or not doesn’t matter
and you compared her to Paris I don’t know why I wasted my time here.
i’m not a paris fan by any means…i just don’t think you can do what she’s done and not have any talent or drive or intellegence….
i’ve interviewed her twice and thought her to be pretty sharp and very self-aware….
c’mon, mcmahon…at least give her ‘repo!’….
You throw out the name Paris and watch the irrational hostility begin; Only yancy has thus far made a legit point about the actual subject of this post– Lohan.
I am sorry DetG, but Lindsay has a good record at Box office? really? thats news to me and to Hollywood, all her big prodctions AFTER Mean Girls floped, I know who killed me made less than 10mil and was released in more than 2500 screens, her last film Chapter 27 almost went straight to DVD, her next two films dont have a distributor and she is out of work since coming back to Rehab, yeahhh, I can see, huge star.
juligen: It is indeed annoying when troubled stars like Lohan stay in the spotlight because of their antics rather than their talents, even when a large degree of blame can be laid at the feet of the media, who help get these kids hooked on the attention. Now that she’s an adult, of course it’s on Lohan to get herself together. But if she’s unable to, I’d rather mourn a wasted talent than say ‘good riddance.’
As for Paris, well – Paris is Paris. Either she or her handlers or both have some kind of genius for branding.
yancyskancy I get it, tho I dont think Lindsay was that much good, she can act, but the girl just cant tell herself “I will take a break, stay out of light for two months than be back promoting or trying for a career come back.” she just cant and to be honest I cant stand her face in every magazine, every news channel, every where I go like 2005 to 2007.
Maybe too much sucess its not good for her, maybe it will be better for her to focus on small things, all I know is that she hanst be able to stay low profile without work to promote, imagine if this girl gets into some award attention, helps us all.
would it be a stretch to suggest that perhaps being in the closet led to some of her behavior issues?
it seems that since coming out and hooking up with someone for more than a couple of weeks, she’s been a bit more grounded…..she doesn’t really court the foto-folk anymore, they just continue to dog her…..
or
i’m completely full of shit (and that’s always a possibility)…..
It’s obvious that Lohan had bad decision makers in her life. While something like Herbie Fully Loaded was a hit and she had a gallant effort at becoming “serious” (a Robert Altman movie that co-stars Meryl Streep amongst many others is nothing to shake a fist at) that anybody would think movies like Just My Luck and I Know Who Killed Me were good career moves is beyond me, coke or no coke. As others have mentioned, the likes of Drew Barrymore (and, hell, even Robert Downey Jr went to prison and has since become one of the biggest stars on the planet) have gone down this path and have recovered, and we know she has talent so I’m sure she’ll get there too. Although today is a different world to when Barrymore was going through the same stuff. A time when seemingly every second guest on Letterman was on crack.
On the matter of Paris Hilton? Well, IO occasionally throws in a jibe about me liking her every now and then because, like Scoot, I actually – not defended – but acknowledged her achievements. Yes, she seems dumb as a thumb tac and the fact that she has a career is disconcerting, but I will defend her album for a very long time and other critics actually liked it too. Allmusic.com gave it 4.5/5 (I’d give it a 3.5 on their scale), YahooUK gave it 7/10 and Rolling Stone gave it 3/5 so I imagine many people who bag it never even listened to it. I’d suggest “I Want You”, which has a delicious Grease sample. Yes, she didn’t write any of it or have any creative input whatsoever, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be good.
The difference between Lindsay Lohan and D. Barrymore and R. Downey Jr. is that people in the business actually liked Barrymore and RDJr. They are both hometown kids who come from Hollywood families…totally effed-up Hollywood families that is. Hollywood kept giving them second chances and rooting for them beause the town felt partially responsible for their problems. Hollywood looks after its own…sort of.
Lindsay Lohan however is some girl from Long Island. Sure, she has weird parents, but that’s not Michael Ovitz’s fault. She clearly hasn’t made that many friends in the industry, since she’s more interested in selling magazines than movies. Why waste time and money rehabilitating her career when it can be better spent cultivating newer, younger 2008 models like K. Stewart.
scoot, i think you make an interesting point
Lohan has/had real talent.
I am currently taking a break from watching Get Smart and Hathaway, also a Disney creation, has the career Lohan could have had. Truth is, being a movie star is more than talent. It is the stars aligned combined with right decisions and at least some modicum of ration. Lohan has none of the latter. She is gorgeous,talented and a reckless flake. I think she can come back…but it will take a lot of effort.
Even Jessica Biel proved you can buck the Disney image and still come out on top. Sadly, Lohan loved the lifestyle of being a star…but not the work that came along with it.
While I agree that PH is no longer the trainwreck that LL has become, I still don’t see any real talent or personality that I feel compelled to become a fan of. Being able to ‘manage your career’ isn’t really a reason to be a celebrity.
Scooter, by all accounts that I’ve heard, Paris was very easy to work with on Repo and d a professional. That said, her part is small and I don’t think she gives a very interesting performance. Also, she has some very amusing talents when it comes to handicrafts.
and that, leah, is why i love you…….
mcmahon — i’m surprised (but not shocked) at your response re:repo!…. i thought she did a great job in a role that was a change for her and might have taken her out of her comfort zone…after reading your stuff for over a year, i thought you’d give her a pass…
crap!…now, i DO sound like a paris fan…
oh, and everyone i spoke with for repo! loved her (but, really, what’re they gonna say…)…
PARIS = TOTAL OWNAGE.
LOHAN = TOTAL OWNAGE.
I fail to see the problem.
Hilton seems kind of genuinely sweet, well-intentioned and misunderstood, if not particularly verbose or witty, in interviews; Sometimes Lohan, if you see her on Conan or Dave, does this thing where she’s not really getting their humor and instead of kind of rolling with it and showing some self-deprecation, she kind of does this mean-girlish confused “What the fuck?” kind of face, like the host is a dick and it’s the rest of the world’s problem that she doesn’t think it’s funny. She does this exact face in “Chapter 27” when Judah Friedlander tries telling her about the genius of Polanski. Doesn’t matter, because Lindsay still owns, but however aloof and calculated people find Paris, I tend to suspect there’s a pretty decent person inside.
Of course, I tend to think this because I want to bone her more than any famous woman ever.
Scoot, I posted my thoughts somewhere the other day, but I agreed: Paris hit it OUT OF THE PARK in REPO.
I also agree with Kami (gasp) about her album. It fucking rocked.
lex — wow! you’re agreeing with kam?!?….NOW i’m shocked….
I don’t think she was in the closet… I think she was one of those who went that way after being with a few too many male assholes.
That said, there was a theory that always made sense to me that her horrid behavior was all because it was the only way she could escape her crazy mother, who was so in control of her career and her money. If she destroyed her career, she destroyed her mom.
As far as Paris… very bright, clearly… but still, famous for hair, a name, the mean girls power to lead other women to their humiliation, and a mediocre blowjob.
harsh, dp.
(back atcha scoot)
interesting how one goes from ‘the mean girls power to lead women to their humiliation’ and then criticizes her ability to give a blow-job…. i guess sometimes the mean girl is a guy….
David, yeah, cheap shots ahoy in there, have to say.
I have to go back and restate that I think even mentioning Paris in comparison was a stretch and a cheap shot… Paris is hardly a poster child for the kind of self-destruction (career- and publicity-wise) you’re attributing to LILO.
I have so much to say on this topic, but I’m well aware that the last time a certain blonde heiress came up, I was put on watch.
What fun is it referring to the porn tape that raised her to real national celebrity without making a bj joke?
that is, hands down, the weakest response you’ve ever come up with…and, that speaks volumes….
again….did you REALLY think it wise to comment on a woman’s ability to perform a sexual act?
That B.J. looked like it OWNED.
What else OWNED is listening to Solomon’s stupid jokes and insults for the duration of the tape, especially when he busted out his “Hispanic Guy” imitation and told when he told Paris to show her “POOO-SSY!” Also owned that half the time they’re banging, there’s some godawful EDDIE GRIFFIN CONCERT playing as the soundtrack.
Depending on what version you have, it fucking OWNS when Solomon does PLAY-BY-PLAY in between scenes.
uh,…thanks, lex….but, well…that doesn’t really help my indignant….well…could you just wait in the car for a few minutes…..this shouldn’t take…..
i give up…….
I LOVE PARIS.
LOVE HER.
Scooter, I think I said this last week or so, but I do think Repo was a better part for her than House of Wax etc. since her media image, at this point, disqualifies her from playing ‘normal’ people and makes her better for strange, stylized, campy roles like that one. And the specific part was good for her too. And yes, everyone I know on Repo enjoyed working with her.
But none of that gets me past the dead eyes (Although, if it helps, she has a ton more personality than similar dead-eyed mannequin whatshername from Transformers).
PARIS’S EYES OWN.
PARIS = THE GREATEST THING IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
YES, BETTER THAN THAT BEARDED BITCH ABE LINCOLN.
mcmahon — understood….but, i promise, in person the eyes are alive…
lex — i love you…calm down
dp — really…answer the question…’did you REALLY think it wise to comment on a woman’s ability to perform a sexual act?’….
It has nothing to do with wisdom, scoot… it was a short-hand for her stupid home porn performance. Not brain surgery or a moral dilemma.
Of course, you never know what is really going on unless you are the one being performed upon. The visual “arts” simulate the pleasure, so not matter how dramatic it might or might not seem on tape…
How the HELL did you drag me into this conversation?
Oddly, I thought Paris came off as sort of adorable in the news footage of her release from jail. Looked like she was in some cutesy junior fashion show, and her smile looked genuine and her eyes looked alive.
There’s a grand showbiz tradition of these heiress types commanding our attention. Peggy Hopkins Joyce comes to mind (that ought to send a few folks to Wikipedia). At any rate, Paris doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the opposite sex versions such as Brandon Davis or Brody Jenner, wastes of space who don’t have movies or records or fragrances or commercials to at least partially justify their media existence.
By the way, Nicol – what is “modicum of ration?” Is that the next Bond title? I assume you meant “reason.” š
jeeze, dp……just face up to being a misogynistic butt-hole….’her stupid home porn performence’…..sez you!….honestly, you pious dick-heads amaze me……
Dead eyes. Like the eyes of a doll…
And not but one of you can keep on topic once someone throws the P-word out there. TRANSPARENT.
This thread was about LOHAN, but the incredible CLASS ENVY just has to take hold when you throw HILTON into the mix.
You should get on your knees AND BOW to the ONE THAT IS INHERENTLY SUPERIOR TO YOU.
Lohan is a chump. She’s trying to Beyonce/Jay-Z a relationship, and only CHUMPS act that way. She also seeming lives off of her woman’s DJ gigs. So she is basically famous for being a formally decent actress like 5 years.
While Paris gets dap for what she did in Japan alone. Seriously; go read about it, and realize she has some business savvy. It’s shocking, but she’s not a twit.
Her eyes might not light up like sparklers on the 4th, but she’s not a massive level dummy. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
Yancy, are you saying you would hold Brandon and Brody in higher esteem if they released a fragrance or an album?
Unlke their girlfriends, they’re doing us a favor by not pretending to be anything other than rich,idle realityshow denizens.
I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION RIGHT NOW:
(This is actually very serious and important to me, so I hope somebody actually answers in kind:)
Are “normal” people immune to the thrall, the lure, the appeal of excess and, yes, self-destruction?
I’m sensing a lot of conescension and “wow did she fuck up” and such, but do “normal” people — ie, those with a strong support system, beliefs, sense of self, etc– actually have no temptation to self-destruct?
I have a personality where I have to do things to excess. When I see some awesome motherfucker PISSING away their talent, their friendships, their relationships, their career down the toilet for excess, I am like genuinely riveted, and find that infinitely relatable. I can’t imagine being a “normal” person and handling shit in a calm, reasonable manner.
When I watch a movie where someone goes too far and lets it all “go to their head” and starts blowing off their support system and losing touch with their “roots,” I’m all, FUCK YEAH. EXACTLY. That’s why I’m riveted to narratives like Scarface or Boogie Nights or There WIll Be Blood, where the main character goes into complete egomania and fucks up EVERYthing. Like, I ASPIRE to that kind of thing.
I make it a point of being like this in person. If I’m gonna drink, I’m gonna drink till I’m THE most obnoxious motherfucker in the bar. A light buzz is BULLSHIT; I need to get THROWN OUT and FUCK UP other people’s moods and be on the edge like a motherfucker.
I’m serious though: You guys/gals actually have shit that makes you HAPPY and doesn’t make you want to self-destruct in the most obnoxious way imaginable? Some people have demons that NO amount of getting FUCKED UP can ever really mask.
I am so fucking depressed and nothing in the world makes me happy.
I genuinely hope none of you pricks ever knows what it’s truly like to despise every fucking second of your own existence, to be so tortured and self-loathing that you can’t even look at yourself without downing a fucking liquor aisle’s worth of booze.
What is it like to be normal?
Lex, if you don’t have a shrink, obtain a sack and call one. If you already have somebody and you’re still feeling like this, call another one. Normal people self-destruct all the time, they just don’t have money or fame to do it on a grand scale like Lohan.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A SHIRNK GONNA DO?
IS A SHRINK GONNA GET ME BANGING SUPERMODELS BY THE HALF DOZEN IN THE NEXT HOUR?
I AM HORNY AND LONELY AND DEPRESSED AS MOTHERFUCK, AND PSYCHIATRY IS BULLSHIT. FUCK THAT SHIT. FUCK PSYCHIATRY.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A SHIRNK GONNA DO?
IS A SHRINK GONNA GET ME BANGING SUPERMODELS BY THE HALF DOZEN IN THE NEXT HOUR?
I AM HORNY AND LONELY AND DEPRESSED AS MOTHERFUCK, AND PSYCHIATRY IS BULLSHIT. FUCK THAT SHIT. FUCK PSYCHIATRY.
The shrink might get you to calm the fuck down without downing a shelf of Red Bull and Smirnoff. You might need to actually communicate your fears to somebody else to confront them. Or dilute them.
It’s better than screaming in caps on blogs.
CALMING DOWN does not equal getting laid by models.
FUCK THE WORLD.
polarbear: no, I didn’t really mean to suggest that, and God knows I would decry anything that thrust those dudes even further in the public eye. I wouldn’t RESPECT them for putting out an album or fragrance, but if they did at least I might understand why the camera was there.
Lex: Many psychological problems have physiological causes and can be effectively treated with meds (I know this from experience with someone close to me). Though I wouldn’t call myself a “normal” person (normal people don’t uproot everything and try to make it in the show biz), but I’ve never been remotely self-destructive. I don’t drink or do drugs, never have, and I have no desire to lose control or push people away. The problem you describe is very real, but yeah, you’d need meds or self-control or a patient and loving support system to change that behavior and find peace. And I realize there’s a Catch-22 in there.
At any rate, without those things you’d stay miserable even if your ship came in with a naked Paris Hilton at the helm. Oh, it would seem like total ownage at first, but eventually the crash would come. So get help. Acknowledging the problem is a big step.
Yancy, appreciate the kind words, but I do not respect or acknowledge ANY kind of therapy, psychiatry or medication as being valuable or potentially helpful for me. Not saying they wouldn’t work for others, and don’t want to dissuade or disparage anyone who finds value in them, but I am firmly anti- such things.
Actually DP I gotta (respectfully) disagree with you on the closeted thing. She may have been with some asshole guys but the pressure to be “normal” probably made her go off the rails in the first place. I just got a feeling that relationship she has is real, or at least as real as one could expect given the circumstances. Mostly though I think she’s finally found someone who gives a crap about her. Which is probably something quite new.
But like scooterzz said she’s not really doing anything outrageous anymore, the tabloids just haven’t stopped chasing her. She is sadly more famous now for being famous then for her talent but she is still talented and it would be nice for her to be able to showcase it again.
It’s possible that she just happened to fall in love with a woman. Sexuality isn’t black and white for everyone.
Good point Captain, and I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. No offense meant. I just think that in this case the pressure to be act “normal” during the start of her career would have been tremendous.
I wasn’t offended. I was just putting my 2 cents in.
DD2: I think that having slept with every guy under 30 on the planet, Lohan had no choice but to try a woman.
Lex: There is no such thing as “normal.” We all have our good times and bad. Drinking yourself into an early grave is no solution.
I think Lohan was a very talented teen actress, but in “Just My Luck” and “Prairie Home Companion,” I didn’t like her as much outside of the screwball teen genre – which could have just been expectations.
Some child actors can make the transition to more adult parts, obviously (and yes, I think Kristen Stewart is definitely a candidate to do just that), but I don’t think it’s something that happens over night.
“Mostly though I think she’s finally found someone who gives a crap about her. Which is probably something quite new.”
That’s all I’m saying, really.
I’m not saying that what she is in now is fake. But her family is a disaster area and I think it is much more realistic to pin the problems on that history – which is not neccessarily without family pressure to be straight, though when she was sleeping with men, she was sleeping with a lot of them – than he ennui from having to pretend to not be gay.
Lex, I have Tom Cruise for you on line 1.
Seriously though, I’m not sure what to tell you. Sometimes it’s a matter of getting out of your own head. Adopt a pet, volunteer for something, go to church, do the 12 steps, take up jogging — obviously, it varies for everyone. Since you can at least see what your problem is, you’re ahead of the game.
You may well be right that therapy, et al, would be of no help to you. On the other hand, you could be wrong. After all, you’re wrong about Smokin’ Aces. š Anyway, good luck.
save your sympathy for someone more worthwhile.
i feel no pity for Linday. she did what she did, and she brought it all onto herself.
Scooter, (back to ‘dead eyes in person’) that’s kind of my point – if they don’t show up on camera, she sort of has no business acting in movies, as far as I’m concerned.
Lex: You are a whiner supreme. You’re basically gambling on the passive-agressive chance that if you complain about your problems long enough and loudly enough, eventually some magical fairy godmother will come along and make all your problems go away without you actually needing to take action on your own.
And you know, hey if that works, great, but it’s selfish and arrogant of you to subject other people to it.
LexG: if you don’t know Tim Fite, you should… here’s a song for your thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGc1Dpg0ucM
RECOGNIZE:
FAUST. Cursed be, to start, the high opinion
that the mind has of itself!
Cursed be what as appearance
intrudes on and deludes our senses!
and cursed be the falseness of our dreams,
their empty promise of a lasting name!
Cursed be what flatters us as things we own,
as wife and child, as fields our workmen plow!
Cursed be Mammon too, both when he, with his treasures,
incites us to bold enterprise
and when, to provide us idle pleasure,
he cushions us a bed of ease!
A curse upon the nectar of the vine!
A curse upon love’s highest favors!
A curse on hope! a curse on faith!
but cursed be patience most of all!
Goethe, _Faust_, lines 1591-1606 (Stuart Atkins translation)
When Goethe says it, it’s Art, but when LexG says it, he’s a subhuman freak, or in jeffmcm’s compassionate formulation, “a plague.” Thank God you can all put head to pillow knowing you are superior human beings, insusceptible to depression.
I have no problem with _being_ depressed, my total problem is in complaining about it loudly to strangers and refusing to take actual positive action. You seem to be pulling ‘plague’ out of nowhere.
Ass.
jeffmcm,
I went over your posts to LexG for the last month or two, and found numerous expressions of your wish to hurt or murder him (with your bare hands, tough guy!). I’m sure you go to bed at night thinking you’re the better man — you may be a violent sociopath, but at least you’re not a depressive drunk.
I honestly confused you with KamikazeCamel, who posted this:
You’re a plague.
In other news, I just watched The Happening. What was that? Is that that worst screenplay ever written? Why did Zooey Deschanel have heart-shaped pupil? Why did those two kids randomly get shot to death? Why was that girl in the opening scene so nonplussed that her friend was stabbing herself in the neck? And just how much greenhouse gasses were created by the use of all those wind machines? ay ay ay!
Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0 at October 22, 2008 06:55 AM
I wonder how I could have made that mistake?
Stay classy.
Okay, ‘ass’ was an overreaction, but I think that for the most part, I’m completely at rights in complaining about Lex. I don’t think you’re aware of his whole saga, so I’ll give you a quick summation:
Lex: I hate my life and my job and I’m fat.
Person 1: Why don’t you exercise?
Lex: Not into it.
Person 2: How about taking some acting classes?
Lex: No energy or time for something like that.
Person 3: Well, how about seeing a doctor and finding some workable anti-depressant medication?
Lex: Not for me.
He’s not interested in solutions.
Also, I think you might want to take my desire to strangle Lex with a grain of salt.
And then we worry about him when he’s not raging 24 hours later. It’s SO co-dependent!
Lex, you are a garden-variety alcoholic. Every drunk who has ever lived has had exactly the same feelings you’re expressing. Dissatisfied with everything, unable to be happy, always thinking things would be better “if only…”
This is the last thing you wanna hear, but your problem is extremely ordinary. Common.
You know, I used to worship Dennis Hopper because he was “on the edge.” He was a crazy man like HST, he did drugs and pointed guns at people and walked naked into the jungle. Wow, man.
Then I began to notice how bitter and pissy he seemed in interviews. I even remember him running down Blue Velvet once, and the same ungrateful way Burt Reynolds slammed Boogie Nights. I could only assume it was out of jealousy — here Lynch was getting all this credit for doing what Hopper really wanted to be doing, which was directing highly-regarded films. He had destroyed his own career, and only managed to salvage it by becoming a hack villain for hire.
I eventually realized that guys like Lynch and Cronenberg, who never seem to have any drama in the real lives, were a million times cooler that than the meltdowners and act-outers. They take all their weirdness and dark impulses and channel it straight into their art rather than spraying all over like a firehose. That’s a lot harder, and a lot more productive.
(I realize that there are some artists who live crazy lives AND do great work, but they’re usually tormented souls who don’t live long.)
Shrinks and meds probably won’t help you. And here’s a shocker: if you got what you thought you want tomorrow, within a week or a month, you’d still be miserable and then you’d REALLY be desperate, because you’d wonder why.
Think about this: how many people have fame, fortune and all the sex partners they want, and still go off the deep end? I mean, what’s the subject of this blog entry? Get it?
I also know that you won’t make a change until you become so wretched that you want to kill yourself, but are afraid to. A “can’t live with it, can’t live without it” situation. Could take months or years, unless you kill yourself driving drunk or falling down the stairs first.
Man, how did this thread get so serious?
(I also think it’s ridiculous that people are slamming DP for ridiculing Paris Hilton. She’s PARIS HILTON, for godssake! What else is she good for? The only entertainment value she provides is of the unintentional variety.)
insightful, frankb. you should have your own show
Frankbooth’s advice for living! Sounds good to me.
Tip #1: DON’TYOUFUCKINGLOOKATME!
Tip #2: Never forget a guy’s got a police radio, shit-for-brains. Otherwise, well-dressed men will know where your cute little ass is hiding.
Tip #3: Heineken…?
lmao
for you, frankb, i didn’t have time earlier (just the first few seconds, really) i LOVE beer, i’d marry it if they’d let me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH8FEZvaiAI
PARIS HILTON IS THE GREATEST THING EVER.
BOW TO HER. BOW.
I DEPLORE THE INSITUTION OF MARRIAGE LIKE THE PLAGUE BUT IF P-HILT SHOWED UP RIGHT THIS SECOND I’D PLEDGE LIKE A HIGHLANDER-NUMBER OF EXISTENCES TO HER AWESOME ASS, GOLDEN MIDRIFF AND GIGANTIC HOT LEGS.
PARIS = TOTAL BONEAGE.
Haterz BEWARE, I am going to make this shit happen WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
Mark my words:
Within 12 months, the poster who goes by the absurdist, meaningless handle “LexG” will be a fucking Hollywood MONEY TRAIN.
This is the last year I will endure being a DOUCHE working for nothing at some BULLSHIT JOB.
I will be THE HOTTEST GAME IN TOWN WITHIN 12 MONTHS– as a writer, as an actor, as a celebu-personality.
Choose to believe or not, I don’t care. By NOVEMBER 2009, “LEXG” will OWN this fucking town.
BELIEVE THAT.
I am sick of this anonymity.
I WILL BE SUPERIOR.
FUCK YEAH.
MARK. MY. FUCKING. WORDS.