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But What

Box Office Mojo announced to its subscribers today that

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20 Responses to “But What”

  1. anghus says:

    What does one do when the market begins to fall apart and the ad rates erode?
    BUY! BUY! BUY!
    this will be happening a lot, soon.

  2. martin says:

    Wow, Brandon Gray doesn’t know shit about box office, and he’s a tool. Nice to keep things classy around here.

  3. David Poland says:

    Uh… Martin…

  4. mysteryperfecta says:

    I’ve enjoyed Box Office Mojo as a resource. I’ve spent hours on the site, looking at the numbers.

  5. Roman says:

    I don’t like these news, not on bit.
    Thing is, there many sites out there that provide better coverage than BOM, and do so on daily basis. The reason why BOM became the de facto standard is because it stores it’s data much better than any other site does.
    The databases (which, as David correctly predicted could be easily copied) is what makes the site both for regular visitors who just want to stare at the numbers and for the journalists who are foundamentally lazy.
    Now there are still a number of notable shortcomings to the site, not the least of which is inability to sort by the international gross (and in my mind reflects the domestic foolish domestic-centrism of the media at large).
    Which returns me to the my first point. Amazon already owns IMDb and now this. Conflict of interests, anyone? Amazon has never really been just another site or just another company…

  6. Tofu says:

    BOM is, as stated, a fantastic tool. However, whenever it turned into an Ayn Rand lovefest, I’d try to back out of the room as slowly as possible.

  7. Roman says:

    “However, whenever it turned into an Ayn Rand lovefest, I’d try to back out of the room as slowly as possible.”
    Heh, this is funny because I know exactly what you are talking about (as well as share your sentiment).

  8. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    DP do you know if it was a cash and stock deal? Heard any detail about the deal? Brandon deserves it. The guy put in a lot of effort over the years.
    And DP for you to retire in Bermuda (the place and shorts) how much you want for MCN?

  9. hcat says:

    BOM is the first thing I check when the computer comes on. Given what a jumbled mess IMDB is I would hope that Gray retains a lot of editorial control.
    Hopefully this will allow them to find the resources to go farther back than 1980 in their box office history.

  10. Roman says:

    “Hopefully this will allow them to find the resources to go farther back than 1980 in their box office history.”
    I doubt that it’s just a question of “resources”, at least not in the sense you are using. Exact box office figures are unavailable for a lot of older films or are not available easily.

  11. brack says:

    Is it really that important to know the grosses of such and such films from yesteryear? I guess it’s like someone checking out baseball statistics and such, but I dunno, it’s kinda OCD-ish.

  12. jeffmcm says:

    It’s definitely inside baseball, but it’s still useful and interesting, especially considering how we choose to remember certain movies. Just taking a quick look over there, who knew that Smokey and the Bandit II outgrossed The Shining, The Blues Brothers, Caddyshack, or Urban Cowboy? And what were The Octagon or Rough Cut? They were the 37th and 41st highest-grossing movies of 1980, and I’ve never heard of them.

  13. LexG says:

    Hey now! (And I realize this isn’t your point, but for the record…)
    Rough Cut was a Don Siegel heist movie with Burt Reynolds and one of the “Lesley-Anns” (I never know which is which), and The Octagon was an early Chuck Norris starring vehicle, from his flat-haired, pre-beard days.
    Looks like somebody didn’t have HBO in 81-82.
    That is surprising about Smokey II, though. (Mostly because it’s such a weird sequel and something I’d have assumed turned off fans of the original… guess Burt just had the golden touch then.)

  14. LexG says:

    Ha! Now I’m hooked on this shit too:
    Who knew ON GOLDEN POND outgrossed SUPERMAN and BOND in 1981????????
    Henry and Jane Fonda hanging out with loons in a New England cabin was bigger than the Man of Steel.
    Seriously, imagine today something like VENUS making more money than Spider-Man.

  15. jeffmcm says:

    I was 4 in 1981-82, so while I do remember the re-releases of The Aristocats and Song of the South (in 1980!) My HBO viewings wouldn’t kick in for another year or two(Raiders of the Lost Ark, Poltergeist, and Cannonball Run II).

  16. brack says:

    “That is surprising about Smokey II, though. (Mostly because it’s such a weird sequel and something I’d have assumed turned off fans of the original… guess Burt just had the golden touch then.)”
    Smokey II only grossed about half of the original’s gross, so that sounds kinda standard for the unoriginal sequel effect.

  17. hcat says:

    Smokey II grossed about a fourth of what the first one did which was somewhere around 175 and the second highest gross of the year after Star Wars which we would be able to see if BOM went back farther. The original Superman was actually the third biggest of 78 behind Grease and Animal House. How did Earthquake do compared to the Last Detail? These are things I want to know. I know the records are spotty but I am sure its simply a matter of getting into a college library’s variety microfiche and transcribing numbers. I don’t need it to go back the Nickelodein days, maybe only 1960 or so.
    And Brack it is totally OCDish and I will admit that I fully indulge this tendancy by pouring over these numbers for hours and nerdily making my own lists and spreadsheets from the data. If the web was not set up to encourage useless data overload than what the hell good is it.

  18. brack says:

    That’s odd, you’d think for a film like Smokey that there’d be a more accurate number listed.

  19. Cadavra says:

    “Who knew ON GOLDEN POND outgrossed SUPERMAN and BOND in 1981????????”
    Well, SUPE 2 was an Xmas ’80 release, so the comparison is rather invalid. And FOR YOUR EYES ONLY was one of the lowest-grossing 007s, due to the decision to try an old-fashioned Ian Fleming-style thriller instead of another of the gadget-laden goonfests that the series had descended to.

  20. christian says:

    Who knew THE BOATNIKS made 50 million?

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