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DP/30 – Rachel Getting Married's Demme & Lumet

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Jonathan Demme and Jenny Lumet sit down to discuss their film, Rachel Getting Married.


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7 Responses to “DP/30 – Rachel Getting Married's Demme & Lumet”

  1. LexG says:

    I am going to watch this one; This guy rules.
    Now someone give LAST EMBRACE a proper DVD release so I can see ROY SCHEIDER’S AWESOME-ASS WHITE SUIT in full digital glory, and bask in John Glover’s awesome villainous smarm!
    Been a few years since I’ve seen it, but can’t remember that having too many specific “Demmeisms,” aside from the locales having that air of Americana he so affectionately depicted back then.
    And something else: For 20-some years I’ve read reviews talking up “Stop Making Sense,” and I know one of these days I really should get around to it, since I like his stuff so much… but… What if you don’t really care for the band?
    Is it possible that a director can be talented enough to make a concert movie stand aside from one’s opinion of the band? For much the same reason as I never saw those Scorsese concert flicks, my TOTAL INDIFFERENCE to the band being filmed totally overwhelms my auteurist completism.

  2. A little bit late for this, no?

  3. Roman says:

    “And something else: For 20-some years I’ve read reviews talking up “Stop Making Sense,” and I know one of these days I really should get around to it, since I like his stuff so much… but… What if you don’t really care for the band?”
    I remember the first time I heard about “Stop Making Sense”, it was introduced to me as the film that would make me (or anyone else no matter what their current opinion of the band) a hardcore “Talking Heads” fan.
    Having seen it since I have to say that it was an overstatment but the film is quite an experiece , very atmospheric and compulsively watchable. A very different experience from say, Scorcese’s “Last Waltz”. David Byrne makes for a great mad Demme character.
    I recommend watching the Youtube clip for “Psycho Killer” which is near the beginning of the film to get a taste of what the movie is like:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xqUoYYnE2M

  4. yancyskancy says:

    Lex: re Last Embrace, I think Demme was more interested in “Hitchcockisms” than “Demmeisms” on that one. I’d like to see that one again. Love Janet Margolin (especially in the ’60s; such a great face).

  5. Cadavra says:

    give it a spin, Lex; you might find your mind changed. I’ve always respected and perhaps even admired U2, but until I saw U2-3D last year, I didn’t really “get” them. Now I do.

  6. LexG says:

    DEMME RULES.
    Everyone go see CITIZEN’S BAND or MELVIN AND HOWARD.
    Or definitely SOMETHING WILD and bask in milquetoast Daniels (who’s only ever been more awesome in Squid and Terms) getting OWNED by Liotta. Is it wrong that when I watch that, I can’t FUCKING WAIT till Hour 2 when all the violent crime-spree shit and Liotta awesomeness kicks in?
    That’s something weird as fuck about Demme is that he’s this ultra-lib sensitive PC nice guy, but in Something Wild and Silence of the Lambs, he brings the fucking THUNDER with the ultraviolent ownage.
    I couldn’t say for sure, but I’m assuming he’s kind of being that in this new, enlightened phase of his career, but I kinda wish he’d do another crime or suspense movie. Even his “Manchurian Candidate,” which wasn’t very well received and suffers from too much Meryl Streep indulgent HAMMING, has some unsettling images and a tense first half.

  7. Hopscotch says:

    I’ll back up Melvin and Howard.
    Wonderful little movie. Doesn’t go where you think it will. Jason Robards OWNS.
    Stop Making Sense is awesome for several reasons.
    -They don’t amp up the audience applause.
    -They don’t cut to the audience until very end of the movie.
    -the whole thing’s not just about David Byrne (but it is).
    -the music is awesome.

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